Please help!! Plant issues

Doogs305

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Hi there, this is my first indoor grow and it’s gone really well until yesterday the plant has become very sad. So the grow set up in coco with 15L satellite pots. Nothing has changed I’ve been doing the same quantity’s of nutes etc with light at same distance, all the leaves are beginning to fall down now. I’m at week 7 in the grow. Please help! Pics attached
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[ZooWeeMaMa]

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Sure thing do you think I should just give it a rest or flush it out and change the nute mixture?
If you're in soil then yeah a good straight water flush will do em good. Then start back in with less nitrogen. Some strains so actually have really dark leaves but when they look leathery like yours with clawing that's nitrogen toxicity. Here's a chart I use myself but keep in mind that there's other factors to what might seem like a nutrient deficiency so use the chart as a small piece to the bigger puzzle. For example too much light can display nutrient deficiency symptoms as can pH issues so just keep that in mind and check those parameters before just cutting back or adding more of something.
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Doogs305

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If you're in soil then yeah a good straight water flush will do em good. Then start back in with less nitrogen. Some strains so actually have really dark leaves but when they look leathery like yours with clawing that's nitrogen toxicity. Here's a chart I use myself but keep in mind that there's other factors to what might seem like a nutrient deficiency so use the chart as a small piece to the bigger puzzle. For example too much light can display nutrient deficiency symptoms as can pH issues so just keep that in mind and check those parameters before just cutting back or adding more of something.
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No worries thanks for your help! I’m not in soil, I’m in coco. So don’t flush?
 

Hydrowannabe

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I wouldn't flush. I would skip a couple feedings and then feed less or change feed to something with less N.
With all due respect, do not do this if you're in coco! He was right about not flushing tho. Skipping any feedings in coco is bad...salt will build up, more "deficiencies" would appear. This is what I would do for most unknown, but fast and spontaneous changes in a plant (especially if you think it happened from your last feeding)...just "rinse" the coco with about 1/2 of the strength you normally use. If you have a ppm meter to check the runoff, better yet. A rinse is less extreme than a flush and very easy to do in coco. Just run your half strength solution (ph'd of course) through the medium until you feel the runoff looks clearer and then go back to normal feeding
 

Hydrowannabe

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Also when watering in coco, always aim to fully drench medium in your solution to the point of having some runoff every feeding or every other feeding. This will help keep "deficiencies" at bay because your constantly replacing the previous feeding, so for example... if you fucked up the ph a little during one feeding,.. instead of letting that little mishap accumulate, its instantly fixed the next feeding. I'm not as good as explaining things as this site...cocoforcannabis.com ....they helped me understand coco so well. They tell you about rinsing and most likely that will be a life saver tool that you will use often throughout growing
 

Hydrowannabe

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Nice looking lady you got there btw. And also, dont worry too much , your plant will make it till harvest as long as you dont do anything to extreme.
 

[ZooWeeMaMa]

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Also when watering in coco, always aim to fully drench medium in your solution to the point of having some runoff every feeding or every other feeding. This will help keep "deficiencies" at bay because your constantly replacing the previous feeding, so for example... if you fucked up the ph a little during one feeding,.. instead of letting that little mishap accumulate, its instantly fixed the next feeding. I'm not as good as explaining things as this site...cocoforcannabis.com ....they helped me understand coco so well. They tell you about rinsing and most likely that will be a life saver tool that you will use often throughout growing
I was actually just coming back to recommend that site since I'm too tired for in depth responses. Great site that will teach you everything you need to know about Coco.
 

Hydrowannabe

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I was actually just coming back to recommend that site since I'm too tired for in depth responses. Great site that will teach you everything you need to know about Coco.
I was on the toilet for over an hour this morning,..I had little else to do lol. But yea I've never heard of a bad thing about cocoforcannabis.com
 

Doogs305

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Nice looking lady you got there btw. And also, dont worry too much , your plant will make it till harvest as long as you dont do anything to extreme.
Thanks man! Appreciate it, yeah it’s been smooth sailing so far! It’s just this last stretch of the grow that’s giving me grief, I’ve put so much effort into it, just getting nervous I’m going to stuff it up at the last step haha!
 

Hydrowannabe

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Thanks man! Appreciate it, yeah it’s been smooth sailing so far! It’s just this last stretch of the grow that’s giving me grief, I’ve put so much effort into it, just getting nervous I’m going to stuff it up at the last step haha!
We've all been there. Takes a few successful harvests to gain that confidence ime. Looks like you went a little heavy on the nutes but nothing that would kill you plant before harvest. Happy growing!
 

Doogs305

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We've all been there. Takes a few successful harvests to gain that confidence ime. Looks like you went a little heavy on the nutes but nothing that would kill you plant before harvest. Happy growing!
Hey bro, just a follow up question. I’ve eased up heaps on the N, will the leaves recover from being so droopy or do you think that’s how they will live there life now? It’s been a couple of days, has not got any worse but has also not got any better. I can’t see them bouncing back up. What do you reckon?
 

Hydrowannabe

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Hey bro, just a follow up question. I’ve eased up heaps on the N, will the leaves recover from being so droopy or do you think that’s how they will live there life now? It’s been a couple of days, has not got any worse but has also not got any better. I can’t see them bouncing back up. What do you reckon?
If you're not already using and A and B nute combo like house and garden for coco or canna or something, I strongly suggest that as it will make your life so much easier. The leaves should perk up a little. If you were using an A and B combo, I would just reccomend dialing that down a little. I haven't used a three part nute line in over 5 years and dont even feel comfortable making any recommendations ha, sorry. I think its a good idea tho to at least back off ththe nitrogen tho. If your using a nitrogen additive, you can definitely stop using that
 

Doogs305

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If you're not already using and A and B nute combo like house and garden for coco or canna or something, I strongly suggest that as it will make your life so much easier. The leaves should perk up a little. If you were using an A and B combo, I would just reccomend dialing that down a little. I haven't used a three part nute line in over 5 years and dont even feel comfortable making any recommendations ha, sorry. I think its a good idea tho to at least back off ththe nitrogen tho. If your using a nitrogen additive, you can definitely stop using that
Yeah I’m using a part A part B nute mix, it’s iconic grow coco stuff. I’ll just dial it back and see how it goes, cheers
 
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