Please help me set up my grow area

CaptainTHC

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So here is something else. I might get some shit for this but I tried it and it worked fine. This current indoor grow from start to finish I never once brought in fresh air from the outside other than opening my door to go in the bedroom. It was essentially a sealed room with no fresh air other than like I said opening the door and perhaps some air leaking in from around the air conditioner. No added CO2 either. So I have an air conditioner, and I covered the window above the air conditioner with cardboard and a towel so light doesnt come through or go out. I also have a dehumidifier, a large stand up high velocity shop fan, and some small oscillating fans on the floor blowing up from the bottom of the canopy on each side of the 5x10. I grew 10 plants in 15 gallon pots, mostly all skunk strains. I have an air quality meter that measures CO2 and other things as well and my CO2 stayed in range between 400 and 460 which is ok. I was running about 1000 true watts total from the wall of cheap no name LEDS in a cheap no name tent. I paid a total of $500 for all the lights and the tent. Only reason I used a tent instead of the room floor is because the ceiling in the bedroom is those cheap tiles and hanging lights and shit would be a pain in the ass I also like the base of the tent because when I water 15 gallon pots theres lots of runnoff and the base is waterproof. I just use a shop vac after and vacume it all up and wipe down. I had no issues with mold or mildew. I actually must say this was one of the easiest grows ive ever done. It went really smooth, the buds are super frosty and nice, smell is amazing, buds are solid and fat. I mean its one of my better quality grows so far and I grew it in the heat of the summer when temps outside were in the 90s alot of times. I also ran a negative ion generator this grow for the first time, not sure what that did if anything but I read some studies on that and wanted to try it.

So what Im saying is you could literally just put a small ac unit in the window and thats it and youll do just fine in that small space. Cover the window above it and voila. I dont know if its ideal or not but I just did it on a larger scale and it worked just fine. I also have pictures of the grow to prove it if you like.
Hello, greetings brother
I'm really sorry but i had a work deadline for today and was busy whole weekend preparing for it and did not check here. Pardon me.

so my spare bathroom is not connected to any AC room and also i don't have a dehumidifier but i feel that is not necessary for now in my case bc of natural humidity levels and for wind control ii have a large high velocity fan with 3 snakl fans and an exhaust.
I don't have a tent and i am not able to find a negative ion generator and could not understand what it is and how to use it. I can't put an AC in that window as window AC has a bigger size and the window is small.
Secondly i got only one power plug which i will be using for the lights and to get another power plug i would have to get a new line which is a pain in the ass. Above my window i only have an exhaust fan no other window.
I would live to see the photos of your setup if you are comfortable sharing and would also like to know.
Right now I'm still figuring out what to do to avoid sunlight entering the bathroom and my grow light leaking from the bathroom so all in all my grow project is on hold as i have a lot of problems and hopefully everything will work out.
 

Cpappa27

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Hello, greetings brother
I'm really sorry but i had a work deadline for today and was busy whole weekend preparing for it and did not check here. Pardon me.

so my spare bathroom is not connected to any AC room and also i don't have a dehumidifier but i feel that is not necessary for now in my case bc of natural humidity levels and for wind control ii have a large high velocity fan with 3 snakl fans and an exhaust.
I don't have a tent and i am not able to find a negative ion generator and could not understand what it is and how to use it. I can't put an AC in that window as window AC has a bigger size and the window is small.
Secondly i got only one power plug which i will be using for the lights and to get another power plug i would have to get a new line which is a pain in the ass. Above my window i only have an exhaust fan no other window.
I would live to see the photos of your setup if you are comfortable sharing and would also like to know.
Right now I'm still figuring out what to do to avoid sunlight entering the bathroom and my grow light leaking from the bathroom so all in all my grow project is on hold as i have a lot of problems and hopefully everything will work out.
Ok man sounds good. If you can manage without thats a bonus. Let us know how it works. Ill show my setup in my grow journal that I will be starting soon.
 

CaptainTHC

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Ok man sounds good. If you can manage without thats a bonus. Let us know how it works. Ill show my setup in my grow journal that I will be starting soon.
Okay but do you have any good light trap or baffle ideas, i can't seem to find easy ones.
can you help me little more as i want to grow in coco coir i can't seem to understnad how to buffer it with calmag? And if pH of my tap water is 8 and ppm is 25 should i first pH and then pilut my coco brick in the water?
 

Cpappa27

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I never had to use those so I dont have any suggestions. Also I dont know much about coco, perhaps some other more experienced members in the coco arena can help you if they are available. @TCH @PopAndSonGrows
 

Nizza

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Okay but do you have any good light trap or baffle ideas, i can't seem to find easy ones.
can you help me little more as i want to grow in coco coir i can't seem to understnad how to buffer it with calmag? And if pH of my tap water is 8 and ppm is 25 should i first pH and then pilut my coco brick in the water?
Saturate the coco brick ,and if it is poor quality coco you want to dump the water or rinse it a few times . After this soak it in a bucket with extra water, add the nutrients to charge it then wait a day or so mixing here and there. Adjust pH to 6.0 after this and then wait again until you are sure the pH isn't drifting. I shoot for 500-700ppm total of a mixture of calmag and base nutrients .

You will see if the coco isn't precharged If the pH drifts alot after charging. Rinsing alot will uncharge the coco and make it necessary to recharge it.. hope that makes sense
 

CaptainTHC

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Saturate the coco brick ,and if it is poor quality coco you want to dump the water or rinse it a few times . After this soak it in a bucket with extra water, add the nutrients to charge it then wait a day or so mixing here and there. Adjust pH to 6.0 after this and then wait again until you are sure the pH isn't drifting. I shoot for 500-700ppm total of a mixture of calmag and base nutrients .

You will see if the coco isn't precharged If the pH drifts alot after charging. Rinsing alot will uncharge the coco and make it necessary to recharge it.. hope that makes sense
While saturating do i have to pH the water I'm using for saturating? As last time i did this no matter how hard i tried but the pH of my water was 8-9 and i was not able to achieve pH 6.

How do i make sure my ph is not drifting? What amount of calmag and base nutrients you use for 2x 5 gallon pots? I have AN pH perfect nutrients.
 

Nizza

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While saturating do i have to pH the water I'm using for saturating? As last time i did this no matter how hard i tried but the pH of my water was 8-9 and i was not able to achieve pH 6.

How do i make sure my ph is not drifting? What amount of calmag and base nutrients you use for 2x 5 gallon pots? I have AN pH perfect nutrients.
My process is exactly this
add water to it and submerge the coco in water
let it sit a day or so if you aren't used to the Coco you're using, check PPM
If PPM is high, it may be pre-charged, or really dirty. This is where I'll strain it out and refill the bucket, and wait and check PPM again, and repeat until it's clean

in a bucket of water+ coco add the nutrients and stir it up (I use a small dose of nutrients combined with a full dose of cal-mag) (charging)
wait a day and check the pH, and add pH up or down to bring pH to 6.0 (buffering)
stir it up and check it another day after and re-adjust to 6.0 until it stays there
 

Drop That Sound

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Most bathroom exhaust fans are pretty weak, like 50-100 cfm at the most. Is yours on the wall right above the window (that would be weird, but how else are neighbors seeing through your "shaft"?), or up on the ceiling with a grill? You might be able to force way more air through the shaft... or duct or whatever it is, by unhooking the current fan, and adding a bigger inline one instead. Not sure how big your bathroom ventilation ducting is, but it can probably handle more CFM than whatever regular bathroom fan you have in there.

If the exhaust is literally right by or on the wall just above the window, that doesn't make a lot of sense. The fan will just suck fresh air right through the window, not really pulling any moisture out of the room, unless its closed right? I dunno lol




I guess the main point i want to get at, is maybe you could hookup a bigger inline fan to a carbon scrubber, and run a flexible duct up into the ceiling vent after pulling the old fan unit out, so you can mount the fan off to the side, remotely instead of hanging it from the ceiling. Maybe a 4" or bigger 6" inline will fit right in somehow?

Then, use the small window as the main fresh air intake, whether you build some kind of light trap box over it, or simply run more ducting from it down to the floor. Adding S curves to ducting is a simple way to make light traps, but not if its really shiny inside. I would prefer to make nice low profile box out of something, but running duct all over the place works too.. You could easily make a nice rot proof light trap box from an old plastic tub. Add a few baffles inside for the air to zig zag around, and even put a filter on it too, so your not sucking in bugs, etc..

If you could pull that off, you would have a nice flow from the bottom of the room to the top, and not be pulling air from the rest of the house, I think?
 

CaptainTHC

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Most bathroom exhaust fans are pretty weak, like 50-100 cfm at the most. Is yours on the wall right above the window (that would be weird, but how else are neighbors seeing through your "shaft"?), or up on the ceiling with a grill? You might be able to force way more air through the shaft... or duct or whatever it is, by unhooking the current fan, and adding a bigger inline one instead. Not sure how big your bathroom ventilation ducting is, but it can probably handle more CFM than whatever regular bathroom fan you have in there.

If the exhaust is literally right by or on the wall just above the window, that doesn't make a lot of sense. The fan will just suck fresh air right through the window, not really pulling any moisture out of the room, unless its closed right? I dunno lol




I guess the main point i want to get at, is maybe you could hookup a bigger inline fan to a carbon scrubber, and run a flexible duct up into the ceiling vent after pulling the old fan unit out, so you can mount the fan off to the side, remotely instead of hanging it from the ceiling. Maybe a 4" or bigger 6" inline will fit right in somehow?

Then, use the small window as the main fresh air intake, whether you build some kind of light trap box over it, or simply run more ducting from it down to the floor. Adding S curves to ducting is a simple way to make light traps, but not if its really shiny inside. I would prefer to make nice low profile box out of something, but running duct all over the place works too.. You could easily make a nice rot proof light trap box from an old plastic tub. Add a few baffles inside for the air to zig zag around, and even put a filter on it too, so your not sucking in bugs, etc..

If you could pull that off, you would have a nice flow from the bottom of the room to the top, and not be pulling air from the rest of the house, I think?
The window is right below the exhaust and you are right it might directly suck the fresh air so I'm planning to pack the window with a plywood to restrict the light but the door is on the opposite wall of the exhaust so it is like I'm trading fresh air but i am planning to build a cardboard wall on the opposite side of the exhaust fan/window wall and then open the door of the bathroom as the wind speed here is really nice. I usually sleep without an AC just a fan and i will run one extra fan right outside the cardboard wall partition I'm building inside the bathroom for the fresh air.
This is the best solution imo for fresh air as well as least light leakage.
What do you guys think?
 
if you board it off, you know, make the sides from board, paint it flat white, its more reflective then the silver stuff im seeing people use
Ive had luck using Panda Film. you can purchase rolls 10'x100'. Black on the outside and white inside. I built my first room with that stuff. I'll be building a new one soon.
 
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