please help I don't know if this is a ph problem

svchop889

svchop889

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or because I didnt know you were not supposed to mix organic and inorganic ferts and then store them, i did this and used it, only thing is the problem started when I transplanted into Miracle Grow Organic Potting mix which I hear at times can be a bit on the acidic side which makes me believe it could be a ph issue the leaves are curling up and down on the edged and it has blotchy yellow spots in the margins. here is a picture of what is happening
 
kevin

kevin

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looks more like a nute burn than a ph problem, i would flush and let her catch her breath, it doesn't look to awful bad. good luck :peace:
 
oregon024

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Did you learn anything.Don't mix a bunch of bullshit its not needed.Buy the expensive soil be it merical grow.Fox farm ocean forest is highly recommended.You don't have to mix it there full of shit don't listen to that shit.and you won't have problems.
 
svchop889

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The soil I started the seed in was crap and depleted My baby had a magnesium deficiency very early on then she got better now this I've only fed her twice at 1/4 with one teaspoon of Epsom sat mixed in. do you think that maybe when I transplanted into the richer soil it could have burnt it because of a build up in the original soil the new stuff has a NPK of .1-.05-.05 . I was slightly root bound also.
 
svchop889

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if it is nute burn flushing the soil will not have negative effect so thats the safer thing to try to rule out first, and if its ph flushing the soil with ph'd water will have an effect also correct? so how do I determine wether or not its one or the other?
 
oregon024

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epson salt why haven't I heard of this.Plants dont like salts all it takes to grow is good soil and water for 30 days.Thats when you start to feed
 
svchop889

svchop889

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oregon024 said:
epson salt why haven't I heard of this.Plants dont like salts all it takes to grow is good soil and water for 30 days.Thats when you start to feed
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I've heard feed at 2 weeks and that what I did because of the issue I had with the magnesium deficiency otherwise I would not have bothered giving any nutrients until it started showing the early signs of a deficiency.
 
svchop889

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I'm going to flush with plain water tomorrow they should be dry by then haven't watered in 4 days, I'm also going to try starting some seeds in the new soil I have, seedlings are sensitive and if its the ph it wont take long to find out dont worry its a bag seed, also i just took a look at her and the new growth looks perfectly fine in fact I see some frosties :) this is day 36 (yeah I know its small but I only have a 26w 2700k and 15w 6500k?) so another question is if I am starting to see trichs when do i start seeing preflowers? its on 18/6 currently
 
svchop889

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well whether it was a ph problem or nute burn it isnt getting worse the blotchy yellow has evened out now everything is just bright green like it always has been I mixed some wood ash with some water and watered with that then I just flushed it with pain water again so maybe it was a little of both. regardless its looking a lot better and the new growth is really taking off so thank you to all that helped I'll be posting new pics in a day or two.
 
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bigwheel

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I have bad problems with any product with has the word Miracle Grow on the label. I do HB's and tried their Pearlite with some kinda built in funky slow release plant food (because that was the only brand of Pearlite I could find) and it wound up killing my entire grow. It tried to kill the babies in veg then it finally managed to do them in during the bloom phase. As I struggled with them noticed that no matter how perfect the ph was in the added water, the runoff was always off the charts too high. The way they bond the plant food to the other materials makes it to where no amount of flushing can get rid of the nasty shit. Only hope I could see for your grow is to repot it with something other than MG. Or at least thats how I would approach the problem. Also dont buy any more of the stuff.
 
svchop889

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bigwheel said:
I have bad problems with any product with has the word Miracle Grow on the label. I do HB's and tried their Pearlite with some kinda built in funky slow release plant food (because that was the only brand of Pearlite I could find) and it wound up killing my entire grow. It tried to kill the babies in veg then it finally managed to do them in during the bloom phase. As I struggled with them noticed that no matter how perfect the ph was in the added water, the runoff was always off the charts too high. The way they bond the plant food to the other materials makes it to where no amount of flushing can get rid of the nasty shit. Only hope I could see for your grow is to repot it with something other than MG. Or at least thats how I would approach the problem. Also dont buy any more of the stuff.
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dude I know what your talking about but mine are getting better now and I am using the organic potting mix its not the same as what you used so I don't know if I want to put them through more transplant stress just yet if i can get this under control as it sits now. I am Pretty confident I can with a couple sets of expert eyes and some good advice which I have gotten so far.
 
kevin

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yeah, that mg is thrash. look at the yellowing on the leaves and i only got 8 ounces off this girl.



or maybe it was operater problems?
 
svchop889

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yellowing is typical at the end of a plants life cycle which that pic looks like its close to harvest but i cant really tell because I don't have a close up of that bud where the pistils dry and receded? I am working with what I have, hell I would be happy with 8 ounces I will only get 1 off of mine but im going small on purpose not enough space in my Rubbermaid.
 
svchop889

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Hey I put some Ortho rose pride pellets on top of the soil about three days ago and now I have roots showing up near the surface less than a 1/4'' in some spots the pellets have a NPK of 12-4-8. this plant has always been on the light green side is it possible it just needs nitrogen? because nothing I have fed it has had much nitrogen, I know it needs nitrogen for vegative growth but I dont have much cash so I have just been using what I can find it sucks I know I could do so much better with the right products.
 
svchop889

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kevin said:
yeah, that mg is thrash. look at the yellowing on the leaves and i only got 8 ounces off this girl.



or maybe it was operater problems?
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Oh I see your being sarcastic, its way to easy for people to blame it on the soil and not themselves I am looking at your WW grow right now I am using the same soil as you the organic miracle grow doesn't seem to be too bad to be honest after I flushed everything seems to be headed in the right direction again thank you for your help.
 
cowboylogic

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oregon024 said:
epson salt why haven't I heard of this.Plants dont like salts all it takes to grow is good soil and water for 30 days.Thats when you start to feed
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Epsom salts if very useful in cultivation. From softening hardwater to correcting nute issues. It can be used as a foilar spray or drench. Most of the Nitrogen you feed your plants is a salt form. It looks like you have some sort of issue going on, but I do not think it is ph related. Just hard to tell from your pics. Here is a link to a post you should find helpful. But until you have it figured out I would just use phed water. Dont want to compound the issue by stabbing in the dark. Give us a bit more info also. Nutes, ph ect..... Heres the link, hope it helps. https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/1469-marijuana-plant-problems-cures.html
 
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