ItsJustMe84
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Im hoping it'll be my best friend too lol
Please help!!! Deficiency, (with pics)
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daloudpack
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if epsom salts are ur best friend then uve never met mine..... its pink wet and can change ur life in 9 months ...epsom salts is cool tho
ItsJustMe84
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Lol yh and when it does change your life you find pleasures else were i.e spending more time with my plants as oppose to sat with my screaming kid and moaning girl.. haha i love them really
Donktastic
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I think its pythium root rot. I grow in coco and Ive been fighting this for over a year now with various degrees of success. For some reason this pythium really likes coco. When I start in rockwool it seems to keep the pythium in check for the most part, as soon as I transplant into coco I get this, and eventually the plants wilt and die. Some plants will make it though and the bigger they get the more resistant they are to pythium in general, but it still reduces my harvest and causes seeds in weak sensitive strains. I also notice it gets much worse right after I water my plants and the more my coco drys out the better the plants do. If this sounds like you then you have pythium also. A couple of things you can do to help is keep your plants in smaller containers so they dry out faster, use more perilite to help them dry out faster. Check your plants roots, are they white and fuzzy or brown and stringy?
edit to add; the slight curl on the edge of the leaf is the first sign for me and pythium will show up as various other nutrient deficiencies, such as mg, because your plant is starving because its roots cant absorb food.
edit to add; the slight curl on the edge of the leaf is the first sign for me and pythium will show up as various other nutrient deficiencies, such as mg, because your plant is starving because its roots cant absorb food.
ItsJustMe84
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Heyy dude i appreciate the reply!! Very good info as it does sound like my plants symptoms, and ive suffered with it every grow ive done, never had a plant die yet though, usually when i flip them into flower and the growth explodes it takes over all the old dead leafs and thrives.. but i did do one grow were toward the end nearlly every leaf had died and branches were all leaning on eachother but miraculously still gave 3 oz each plant, good crystally weed too.. i do use 3 x 600 w hps though so i should hope im getting at least 2 to 3 a plant... im still going to try some epsom salts just in case but what else can i do?
daloudpack
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what type of water do u use... if tap water chlorine fights off pythium root rot ....
ItsJustMe84
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I use tap water, supposedly some of the best tap water in the world (im not joking either) , ph of 7.2 and a hardness of about 100ppm (soft)
daloudpack
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are u letting it sit out to disolve the chlorine? if not i wouldnt be convinced of pythium unless i seen root rot with my own eyes
ItsJustMe84
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I let it sit for over 48 hours everytime.. 24 stand, add nutes and leave another 24.. the thing that got me was when he said they look worse after every feed and thats the same for me... ive got a small plant i potter a week ago i took a pic of its roots
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daloudpack
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roots dont look disease to me ... heres a comparison http://msue.anr.msu.edu/news/pythium_root_rot_in_the_greenhouse
ItsJustMe84
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Well we will see what happens, gonna use the epsom today see if that makes a difference but until then im gonna really let my pots dry out properly before i give them there next feed, with them been newly transplanted maybe ive been giving them to much water, but theres 12 under 2 x 600w so i doubt there staying wet to long, ill be suprised if they are as i keep a constant temp of around 79-81f.. i dont know, surely root rot wouldnt just go away like it did on previous grows when i went into flower
daloudpack
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i let mine get L.A.F (light as fuckkkkkkk) before i water
ItsJustMe84
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Well here it is.. girls have a had a nice spray of epsom, i just mixed a shady tea spoons worth into a litre of ph water.. 6.0.. made sure all dissolved, let it stand then sprayed about half a litre of water in total.
I really hope it sorts them out as ill be seriously gutted if i have root rot..
I really hope it sorts them out as ill be seriously gutted if i have root rot..
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ItsJustMe84
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Do they look stunted for 3 weeks old? I have recently topped them as i have height restrictions but i always forget what my previous grows looked like at these stages
daloudpack
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a teaspoon to a gallon bro ....a gallon is 3.75 liters.... yea they look a lil small imo
ItsJustMe84
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Oh well its done now.. lets see what happens
Donktastic
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This is not true, sorry but I thought it was when I started my fight with pythium also. Chlorine in normal tap water is not strong enough to kill pythium. In fact your water could be the source of pythium, if your water comes from a well, even a city well, then its probably that it has pythium in it. This is considered safe for human consumption. Its also worth noting that the pythium spore is pretty much everywhere anyway, and needs the right conditions to thrive.
daloudpack
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thanks for the knowledge donk....
daloudpack
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i can only go off what i read online but ill take an experienced growers advice over that anyday...
Donktastic
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Lol going online is like going on webmd, you will think you have everything there is.
What ferts do you use and what strenght? Your root pictures dont look as bad as mine, but I dont think they are healthy either. It could just be as simple as overwatering, smaller pots will help with that. If it its pythium, I do have a "break glass in emergency cure" that I started last week and has actually been doing wonders, but everyone will think Im crazy.
What ferts do you use and what strenght? Your root pictures dont look as bad as mine, but I dont think they are healthy either. It could just be as simple as overwatering, smaller pots will help with that. If it its pythium, I do have a "break glass in emergency cure" that I started last week and has actually been doing wonders, but everyone will think Im crazy.