Playing with BHO and IWE

Kase

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Well in my reasearch even great saps go for waaay less than wax or shatter, those are just where it's at in California at least. Not a small difference either. I do take a very personal interest in my oil, it's definitely an art form.

Warmachine: Ya mon, got 2 at the very least and one of them comes from a very high recommendation from the Dabstar's owner, it's a buddy of his so hopefully my big ol wax patty goes quick ;)

Just starting to wax up, gonna be a long ass night...
 

Kase

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F%$! this is taking FOREVER!! I need to get a higher rated cfm pump asap. *face palm*
 

SaybianTv

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Im so glad I went through that F this is taking forever phase on vac chambers and pumps i built myself. I remember the morning I woke up to some shit that was Sap forever n was like Fucken hell I can't have my kinda dreams on this kinda gear, Im tryin ta be rump wax over here I better get my credit card n just suck it up I wont break even for awhile. I would have a robinair just like everyone else but my passport expired so I couldn't go to the states n get one for cheap. Honestly there all cheap even the 8cfm robinair is cheaper than my 7cfm fischer scientific pump, fuck cheaper it's half the price so you have no excuse now but to Tek Up!

I'm looking at quotes on a rotary evaporator this morning, Im trying to somehow automate my oil making so I can process stuff while I'm at work. U know like when shit's in the vac chamber n your watching it as if you need to hit a button when an alarm rings, if you got a pid set temp you really could be off doing other things like picking through trim or getting a job. My wife asked me to take out the garbage sometime in the next 12 hours and I was like I can't you don't understand I have to stair into this box nonstop or something will go wrong. I didn't end up taking that garbage out....... That's pathetic!
 

Kase

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You are reading my friggin mind Saybian, I too thought how ridiculous I look while staring into my vac chamber ;) lol
 

Guzias1

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lolll. we all gots many box window hours, haha!!!

i agree, pathetic.

but it's memorizing....... :hump:

its art yo@!
 

SaybianTv

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Been a proffesional artist for 17 years, there are so many ways to bullshit that your working that it's hard to recognize what real work is till you do someone else's job. We gotta start multi tasking man, if were pros then our day should be 8 hours with two breaks and 1 lunch. The only reason I know im working is cuzz im in heavy R&D "forums" and business network interfacing "posting on ppls dab photos". Now that im doing all that shit plus QC testing oil I'm totally justified in staring into the box every 3 mins for 3 mins. Have you ever gotten griddle red eye from stairing to close at a purge for too long? My wife asked me why was I dabbed out at 9am by eyes were all red n I said what are you talking about i've had my nose to the hotplate all morning.

All that complicated artsy work is bullshit, as a natural workaholic multitasker I know i must be on vacation from the office cuzz I normaly have to make oil and still work a 8 to 16 hour day. Mind you I sleep on the floor and wake up on 45 min intervals to look into the box for 15 mins then go back to sleep. Now that was fucken work!
 

Guzias1

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loll. griddle eye..

maybe its just our eyes stressed the hell out, after sooo much staring..

you gots a crazy setup syb.

im all for more automation. you got any more cool pics to show?? more interested in your equipment :]
 

SaybianTv

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I dunno I didn't want to be repetitive, but talking about our bad behavior's has lifted allot of guilt off my shoulders. I'm in a great mood today n I noticed I posted something yesterday that should have stirred up controversy but it's like nobody wanted to call me out or was too afraid to be wrong to say anything. Since I was just inventing n all I didn't think much of it so let's call it playing with bho and iwe but it's really not.

Who can see at least two terribly wrong/dangerous things about this image? There are also 2 things that at least point to how it might possibly be safe "ish" Yes It's a trick but let's assume someone saw the image and there was no follow as if it came up on a google image search. Common where's my slap on the wrist?
View attachment 2868502ColuumRun.jpg
 

qwizoking

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Soooooo why do y'all put all that effort?

After I filter I don't mess with it till scrape..and people in Austin go crazy for that white powder..they drop their wax for it...

Or at least, why does wax cost more if its less flavor full and potent
 

SaybianTv

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That's like asking people why do people feed their children mcdonals and go home feeling satisfied they provided for their children. It's perception man, if you want to find out what word is up next for super Bastarization it's "Concentrate Connoisseur" everyone and there mamma calls themself that then I see them dab up straight garfunkel and high 5 each other.

I love when i get that white powder effect, i tried to scheme on how to just purge sheets and sheets of that thin film rock dust. It's the closest thing i've seen to Bho johnson's rock budder which I think is powderized honeycomb but i've seen in shatter up on him so I think it's the same glass powder.
I just don't agree with evaporating to atmosphere that's why I can't produce sheets of that goodness, I'd sure like to vac to super shatter then smash it instead no scrape. Qwet run's are a dream in the vac, i can go from wash to dabs in an hour or two but im not a fan of the taste. It's usually comes out more sour than floral from the same run using a non polar, but I don't do it enough to even subjectively state that as fact.
 

Sirdabsalot462

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Anybody every try the” Yellow Jacket”?

It's prolly the best pump that us regular” blasters” can afford..

I think it's about 6,7 bills...but micron rating of 15 I believe...

Absolute perfect vacuum is rated 0 micron (Correct me if I'm wrong..) Or is it millitor...?

Anywho...yup..

Ima gon-a git one some day!!

Oh...yeah, Harbor Freight has a new pump they sell now...

It actually had a name brand...lol ” Pittsburgh”

2 bills and 20% off, only 3 cfm dual stage, but has a decent micron rating of 75..
Buy the warranty for 10$!! And you get free replacement (even self inflicted damage)

Hope this helps someone...lol
 

qwizoking

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Well you realize there's no reason to vac purge right? Unless your working with hydrocarbon solvents

The powder isn't from scraping a thin film. That's how it comes after purge, I've done 20 gram runs inch thick in my dish..it falls out of solution white and unless its dirty it won't stick(you just can't purge it easily that thick), I can touch it with my fingers easily...pinch some up and sprinkle ect not stickey......the mass of resin after purge is that white powder...no crushing scraping ect...


Uhhhhh what's that mean exactly? Lol
"That's like asking people why do people feed their children mcdonals and go home feeling satisfied they provided for their children. It's perception man, if you want to find out what word is up next for super Bastarization it's "Concentrate Connoisseur" everyone and there mamma calls themself that then Isee them dab up straight garfunkel and high 5 each other."
 

SaybianTv

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WHAT, ok where's the thread I missed the thread where you dropped the knowledge. I swear i saw huge white scrappage on your photo but it's gone. I've never done more than 5 grams etoh, I vac purge so I can collect my solvent further down the line in a cold trap. I don't like to let things escape to atmosphere, I got carbon footprint karma in other categories of life. I can't go on an on about the power of composting and biochar for carbon lockup n then be seen with ethanol burling out of my food dehydrator. The food dehydrator i use is set up for evaporative cooling so it's even faster than vac oven because there's agitation, the vac oven is often not even run under vac, i just pull air through it using the apirator and the condensate is nicely caught in the refrigerated cold trap. It's more my hands are tied to doing it the best way I can because I have the gear to do it, it's not the easiest way. N no i havn't made etoh since the days were 5 grams is auto thin film cuzz you got too much pyrex. Now everythings 20 grams and up so I've just never tried again without peoples medicine I only do it with my own when i have it.

But really if you posted tek on this fire i'd love to try to get the same results from my LHO.
 

SaybianTv

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HEEEELLLLPPPP
I got a major problem, i just signed up for another 5 month contract back in vfx, I just talked a buncha shit about automation dreams today.

I just saw this youtube video from the company who makes one of the rotovapes I just got quoted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BCR53Uam2rs

WTF I didn't know they sold sex in the science lab! Someone say I shouldn't buy this after watching the video. No i don't have money to burn, It's that I don't have oil to burn and I clearly won't be manning the controls 24/7 for the next few months and I don't want to quit or end up getting hit by a train cuzz I'm not sleeping. 10 minutes ago it was just an option on a list of russian looking rotovapes that felt sooo cold war ghetto, then i googled it n they told me i could purge on the beach!
 

qwizoking

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Looks cool to me...if that's your thing I mean..I wonder how you get your oil off the sides though? I wonder how much faster evap times would really be as well

I want sonification....if I was gonna get cool stuff
(My bad hope that didn't confuse you, my phone added the if, its just sonication)
 

SaybianTv

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I'm afraid of sonification, I dunno it just sounds like im going to turn a knob and break all my glass. That's out of my mental league.
I get it out of the flask with ethanol that get's either winterizedor or straight thin film evap in the vac oven which vent's to the solvent cold trap.

Yieh "blushing" it's my thing " teary eyed" I admit it. I got some type of hawts for the lab way of doing things. I feel like one day when they start kicking off door's for this shit I wanna be unassailable when it comes to how hard i'm trying to do what I do well. British Columbia's has a very bad " meth" lab history and I really wanna be a business longterm where nobody is looking at me sideways in society. I've been through how hard it is to slaughter and sell your own organic meat and if you dam well havn't built an avatoir to standard your meat's about to get mixed up on a truck going to a very far away place. WTF is the point of going 100 mile food if it went 200 miles to be killed. So you learn slowly but surely fuck buying anything else but stainless steel for your home so if one day they wanna string you up over the jam you've been selling for cash you qualify as a commercial kitchen by inspection.

I guess that's why Im gay for glass, and that dam rotovape commercial for chumps gave me a glassgasm. I really love making oil, we talked all day about face in the glass. I got oil on my mouth from the oil bath im so close.

Alas im also a loner too busy with inventions to actually be outside dabbing with other people. I clearly BLOW ppl's high's with tek talk.
But yeah Qwiso if you or FD don't say something like dude do you really need that maybe put the dabber down. I really have nobody else who even know's what a roto evap is in my life. So yeah im geeking about something as if we met for a coffee and im excited, I didn't show this to my wife dude im showing this to the forum cuzz maybe someone might say it's a piece of shit buy this one for half the price.

I know how i speak about money sounds like I'm dabbing "the worlds best hash" and buying up shit in a daze, but in all honesty im going to have a nervous breakdown if my oil business doesn't get me out of computer's and back to farming before I have a stroke. I don't even know if I can have an oil business in my country, all i've seen so far is invisible names. I put my name on my work and if it makes you i'll you need to curse the name on the label in vein to the God of your choice.

I'm one dude templating how a business could be run the same way a places like pink house and top shelf extract's run right now but on a level where some quick swing in legislation isn't going to wipe out a man's business. Grey Wolf protect's his research institute like an Iron Eagle, is 3k = to the modern street price of 2 pounds not worth getting my dam round bottom flask off a variable temp hotplate and onto a set temp oil bath? I thought I was acting my age by considering it, even if the boy in me is excited he's justified in needing this now.

You always mention stuff but never lay into me with some tek of why i should be down. Demystify sonification a little for me, is it faster than a rotovap? are they even for the same purpose? As far as I know a vac roto evap is basically perpetual motion thin film evap. I know of nothing faster per volume. Maybe forced air roto evap would be faster. But i dunno how you claim your goods.

Dude this is amazing
http://vimeo.com/49484255
I dunno how to get the oil with this tho.
I'd love to see the sound different nugs and kola's make, even running life plant flower's through it.
 

qwizoking

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Sonication can be used to speed dissolution, by breaking intermolecular interactions. It is especially useful when it is not possible to stir the sample, as with NMR tubes. It may also be used to provide the energy for certain chemical reactions to proceed. Sonication can be used to remove dissolved gases from liquids (degassing) by sonicating the liquid while it is under a vacuum. This is an alternative to the freeze-pump-thaw and sparging methods.


Sonication can also be used to initiate crystallisation processes and even control polymorphic crystallisations. It is used to intervene in anti-solvent precipitations (crystallisation) to aid mixing and isolate small crystals.

Simplified from Wikipedia.............I'll just say that this is what I use at work professionally making pharmaceuticals


That rotary machine though is very cool...but I would be infinitely more interested in using sonication to alter consistency
 

SaybianTv

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Ack ugh, a vein just poped in my forehead, I know what you mean and you are right but I'm out of my league. I don't have enough out of the thc field of knowledge data to get creative on that end. I'm not man enough and my intellectual disposition won't make me man enough in the future. I was looking at sonic transducer's to speed evap but that's as far as I can take it, playing around on the "whammy bar" so to speak but wasn't worth the investment as I don't know how to put the wire down the valve gasket like FD does. The roto evap is a simple tool to do a boring job consistently and fast. I won't be breaking any molds or exciting anyone in your field, but yes the youtube video did make it cool for a moment in time.

I hate to say it but I wish you'd blow me away by being able to use one for our culture's purposes, I love that I think im at my ceiling for the moment and I wish you win the lotto.
Sorry I talk so much it's only a minute or two if we were speaking but it sounds like allot on a forum.
 
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