plants r unhappy

im having problems i thought it was because of over watering and getting a little to cold when the lights turn off , also i was running a dehumidifier during veg keeping the humitity lower then 55 but my girls are EXTREAMLY un happy when i ran environment like this , im also using home and garden nutrients in a soil coco 50 50 mix

2 spider farmer es 3000 bar lights ,
infinity inlet and outlet
home and garden nutrient line up, Power SI, SFL100
temp 75- 84 day and nighttime about 65-70
humidity was 50 but i moved it back towards 60-65 trying to adjust hand watering with half gallon bucket
multiple different genetics
These pictures im showing they r drying from a foliar feed I just applied incase they look wet , but they are droopy lately even when dry , im guessing I had the light to high?! I turned the dimmer down to half strength.

I'm going to try alot harder to come back with recent updates weekly because I would like to learn and be my best so if anyone has any helpful suggestions please let me know ? I think I have a pulse one coming from Santa this year ?!?!

I don't understand people trying to mix soil and coco ?

they look hungry to me

Herb & Suds said:

I don't understand people trying to mix soil and coco ?

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not sure just trying different things, i was going off a mixture i used to see alot a while back. i did not put 30 % of perlite like the person i got this idea from tho..

Herb & Suds said:

I don't understand people trying to mix soil and coco ?

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Never understood this either because from what ive gathered, coco is like hydro, where soil is not. So why would anyone mix the 2 together?

Goodshit97 said:

Never understood this either because from what ive gathered, coco is like hydro, where soil is not. So why would anyone mix the 2 together?

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quicker dry backs and avoid over watering i dont know if its even working tho i might just transplant into straight promix HP

Draco1243 said:

quicker dry backs and avoid over watering i dont know if its even working tho i might just transplant into straight promix HP

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Doesn't look like it....
I'd stick to one or the other. Dont mix soil and coco

Goodshit97 said:

Doesn't look like it....

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I appreciate ur observation

so i gave them a full feeding today instead of half like i usually do and ill keep an eye on them in the next few days . thanks everyone ill keep updating on progress

Those temps are too cool for LED too. Try keeping it at 80 during the day and 75 at night. The plants will grow faster and take in more nutrients-sometimes it's enough to solve "deficiency" type issues.

If your nutes are in-line and those leaves don’t start lifting , I would be looking at how hard your pushing with your light also.

Herb & Suds said:

I don't understand people trying to mix soil and coco ?

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That is all the rage in the UK now. Since they are banning peat sales loads of the regular soil mixes you can buy are mixed in with coco coir.

speedwell68 said:

That is all the rage in the UK now. Since they are banning peat sales loads of the regular soil mixes you can buy are mixed in with coco coir.

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Thank you
But I would avoid it if possible

Herb & Suds said:

Thank you
But I would avoid it if possible

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I won't be given the choice, peat is being banned.

Draco1243 said:

quicker dry backs and avoid over watering i dont know if its even working tho i might just transplant into straight promix HP

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Is the soil you're talking about real dirt or the ProMix HP you mentioned? I use the HP for my base and add organics but picked up a bag of coco and was thinking of trying a 50:50 myself. Really want to try a little side by side with the coco/perlite compared to just HP. I can get HP anywhere around here in the spring/summer but have to go to the city 2 hours away for coco and it cost 3X as much. That and the constant feeding/watering coco seems to need doesn't make me want to switch from HP.

Coco should work fine to mix with dirt to get better drainage and aeration so I can't see a problem mixing the two. HP has almost too much drainage so shouldn't need any more. Couldn't even buy perlite this last season so so thank Jah for HP!

Your plants look to me like they are growing fine and fast. When they are growing fast they look pale in the centres but that greens up as the leaves get exposure to light. The centres will still look pale as long as they are growing well.

I'd be watching for signs of nute burn now that you've given them a heavier dose of nutes. Might be a good time to increase the light levels so they can turn those nutes into new plant material better too.

Rurumo said:

Those temps are too cool for LED too. Try keeping it at 80 during the day and 75 at night. The plants will grow faster and take in more nutrients-sometimes it's enough to solve "deficiency" type issues.

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Thank you for the info ill adjust it right away .

Goodshit97 said:

Doesn't look like it....
I'd stick to one or the other. Dont mix soil and coco

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I'm running Sunshine 4 Advanced and it has coco in it. It seems to do well so far. It's not what I sent to town for. Very dry. Has a wetting agent in it. And it's a hell of a lot cheaper than Pro Mix. I'll update later but the young plants are very happy in it.

hotrodharley said:

I'm running Sunshine 4 Advanced and it has coco in it. It seems to do well so far. It's not what I sent to town for. Very dry. Has a wetting agent in it. And it's a hell of a lot cheaper than Pro Mix. I'll update later but the young plants are very happy in it.

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I get 107L bales of ProMix HP for $36Can even way up here in northern Alberta. How much they going for in Alaska?

It looks like you arent watering them evenly enough....the edges of your pots look pretty dry. I'd also drop the SLF-1000 for now and just focus on more even watering and proper PH/EC levels.