Plant hospital

Well it seems they survived. Not quite what they were but definitely close and still growing. I definitely notice some difference between the different strains which is kind of unexpected this early on. I look forward to dropping some pics when it's done, but first I need to edit and compile something cool enough to put out there. Thanks again Polyarcturus for the info.

missnu said:

No..someone had said that perhaps it was like moving a clone that had been under cloning lights, to an HID...and I was just stating that that doesn't matter one bit...People say that the plant will get shocked from the change in environment..but really the reason plants get "shocked" when people plant them outside is because they damage roots and then the plant can't recover with all that heat and wind and sun beating down on them

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It may not be needed, but if the University of Nebraska-Lincoln's Ag. department advises it http://byf.unl.edu/Seeds , and so does Cornell University http://www.gardening.cornell.edu/homegardening/scenebd43.html, and the University of AZ. also says that you should harden off annuals http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/garden/az1255/ , then I would say it bears some consideration.

to be honest ive never had a problem switching environment or light schedule, but i would have to say that plays into the hardiness of your plants.

hey no prob ocar glad to hear thye made it!

polyarcturus said:

to be honest ive never had a problem switching environment or light schedule, but i would have to say that plays into the hardiness of your plants.

hey no prob ocar glad to hear thye made it!

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It's been hit and miss for me. Missnu did have a point, I have not noticed light burn on several hundred clones I've put outside this year. Though, the 15F temp jump, 10-15mph winds, and 25% RH outdoors probably is a bit shocking for a young plant. I get some wilt with my GDP every time it goes out the first time. The Jack Herer, Cali Orange, and ATF just truck right along normally. Maybe it's more dependent on strain than anything. More info is needed, I think.

PIX 1,2 ARE WEEK 2 LAST PIX IS WEEK 2 ALSO those are skywalkers look like cabbage PIX 3,4 is week 3 theses took on change but i still have some that look like week 2 but with new growth PIX5 is JACK CLEANER all grown at same time same room same nutes.
HISTORY
22 54 watts cfls
clones taken from flowering mother 4 weeks ago
started with 18/6 for first 2 and a half weeks , been on 24/0 last 7 days
canna coco coir straight in 5 gallon buckets sitting in trays
top and bottom feed once a day or every other day when needed
Advanced Nutrients Grow Micro Bloom, voodoo juice, B52, Rhino skin half strength, temps of nutes unknown for first 2 weeks now at 68f when feeding.
room 10 x 9 intake air with air conditioner 14000 btu's exuast fan, air change 3 to 1
temps average 79 degrees humidity 45 to 52 % daytime , 3 degrees cooler at night
home made co2 (pruno constantly cooking) WINE filtering gases via hose to plant stalks

If anybody can help with what was and still may be wrong ,some plants seamed to have went back into veg and are shooting new leaves in perfect form , but last week these plants looked strange. the pixs from this past week show they have over come but i still have 3 that are looking like the cabbage.last weeks the nutes were warm bout 80 degrees this i know as they sat in room temp with just a airstone for co2, I also had the light off and on times fluctuating between 5 and 15 minutes during weeks 1 and 2 (my bad) now on 24/0 til full veg in all plants, what went wrong?

Hi every one, I have already put a post up on my problem and then i saw this thread so thought id throw in a cheeky link to my post to maybe get a little help any advice is greatly appreciated.
https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/534036-2nd-grow-having-issue-2-a.html

Milovan said:

Transplanted some very healthy clones into soil added water and the
clones wilted after the 2nd day of transplant. First day they were perky and erect. Today I watered
with some B-1 and some seaweed/kelp extract that helps for
transplant shock and after 2 hours the clones are still droopy.
3 of the 10 clones did not droop at all from the beginning of transplant and still
erect. 7 are drooping. Why would 3 clones not droop and the other 7 did?
All the clones are identical and under 6500k daylight fluorescent tubes and 76 temp in the room.
There are many roots that show out of the rockwool cubes but the roots are small
and barely out of the cubes. Maybe the roots need to catch up and get a little bigger
to handle the transplant?

Anyone know what could cause this and if possible a
remedy? Clones look very healthy but wilted.
Thank you!

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Sounds overwatered. Did you check your soil on all the plants before you watered again?

nah KP h esaid it himself what the prob was(gd walls of text)

RIDER IX LIVES said:

clones taken from flowering mother 4 weeks ago
some plants seamed to have went back into veg and are shooting new leaves in perfect form

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yes this is exacly what happened your flowering clones had yet to revert back to veg, those rams horn leaves as they are called are a result of unbalanced hormones from the switch back to veg. they will return to growing as normal after some time.nothing you can do about it, unless you add a dark time to your veg and had slowly weaned them back to 24/0, but most of us dont have time for his.

I think I have an idea on what the issue is regarding my plant, but I just wanted to make sure and get some additional feedback. I think the issue is nitrogen toxicity, with the upper leaves doing the "claw". I also think possible a Potassium deficiency, given how the lower leaves fell off still green with the darker green/grey blotches. Here are my specs, please let me know if I've left anything out or if there's more I need to provide:

Strain: La Diva Automatica (Delicious)
Age: 47 days
Medium: FF Happy Frog
Nutes: FF Nutes (Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom)
Nute history: 2 Feedings, every other watering, started after 4th week
Water: Tap, left out for 3-4 days for evaporation, PH corrected to 6.8-7.0
Water method: 3/4 of a gallon once top soil is dry, 1 flush at week 6
Lights veg: 4 26 Watt CFL's 6500k for 4 weeks
Lights flower: Started with 6 26W 2700k. She started to shoot up too fast, had to reduce lights down to 4 to prevent cola burn.
Light schedule: 18/6
Temps: Day 84-88 Night 71-74
Ventilation: 1 120mm fan ventilating at 130CFM.
Aeration: 1 120mm fan moving air at 80cfm inside grow box.
Grow box: UHaul box at 24" x 21" x 48", lined with panda film.

Sevren said:

I think I have an idea on what the issue is regarding my plant, but I just wanted to make sure and get some additional feedback. I think the issue is nitrogen toxicity, with the upper leaves doing the "claw". I also think possible a Potassium deficiency, given how the lower leaves fell off still green with the darker green/grey blotches. Here are my specs, please let me know if I've left anything out or if there's more I need to provide:

Strain: La Diva Automatica (Delicious)
Age: 47 days
Medium: FF Happy Frog
Nutes: FF Nutes (Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom)
Nute history: 2 Feedings, every other watering, started after 4th week
Water: Tap, left out for 3-4 days for evaporation, PH corrected to 6.8-7.0
Water method: 3/4 of a gallon once top soil is dry, 1 flush at week 6
Lights veg: 4 26 Watt CFL's 6500k for 4 weeks
Lights flower: Started with 6 26W 2700k. She started to shoot up too fast, had to reduce lights down to 4 to prevent cola burn.
Light schedule: 18/6
Temps: Day 84-88 Night 71-74
Ventilation: 1 120mm fan ventilating at 130CFM.
Aeration: 1 120mm fan moving air at 80cfm inside grow box.
Grow box: UHaul box at 24" x 21" x 48", lined with panda film.



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MY BAD KP WE Where talking about to different post, to the guy with the clone hes right you over water. they are just stressed should perk back up if your gentle. next time just do your transplants slower so they dont shock as easy.


okay now claw guy, sounds/looks like a mix of overnute and to much heat, add a fan inside your cab if you can, it looks as if hot air is rising and getting trapped at the top causing the heat stress. as far as the nutes go i would hold off for a week and starting feeding every 3rd watering

polyarcturus said:

okay now claw guy, sounds/looks like a mix of overnute and to much heat, add a fan inside your cab if you can, it looks as if hot air is rising and getting trapped at the top causing the heat stress. as far as the nutes go i would hold off for a week and starting feeding every 3rd watering

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Thanks for your quick response. I agree I think I over did it with the nute feeding on the first feeding. I don't plan on feeding her again at least for another 3-5 water cycles. I just hope I have not stunted her flower cycle. There is also a fan inside the grow box, pushing air around. I added it a few weeks ago as I was worried about moisture stress since it would take up to a week for the 3 gallon container to dry out. That being said, should I look at adding another fan inside the grow box?

where is the fan located i would move it to the top of the box to blow down to keep the hot air from collecting at the top, if its already there and not helping yeah i would add another fan. as for stunting she looks a little stunted but in this case i think it will turn out for the better, she gonna grow big while you not feeding! just a feeling from the looks of her. a week to dry out is pretty normal w/FF because they use a lot of compost in thier soil mixes. so i wouldnt worry too much. just let her dry out a little, try tounder water a little keep the soil a little dryer than you have been, i other words when watering dont do a compleste douse just do a measured amount of water like 16oz.

The fan was at the bottom pointing up. But, I moved it to the top and have it bouncing off the top to push the air down. Funny how auto's work, she's supposed to be this little docile thing and she's turning into a monster. Thanks again for the info.

so i have some small clones in pots they seemed to be taking a beating in full sun outside so i made a lil green house thinking they might thrive i used a sterlite box with some 3/8 in holes drilled all around set it up came home from work today and they took a beatin all wilted and fried looking will they rebound? any remedies to the stupid box I just wanted them to thrive more and have some humidity it was about 79 outside today and sunny. there was plenty of water as the box was quite condensate d.

you got the best idea to tell you the truth patience is a virtue. only thing you could do to help prevent this in the future is topdress with compost or hay or rock or something that will help keep the water in the soil.

they may rebound if you lucky but you strelite greenhouse was holding too much heat, just cut it so it has legs and just blocks the sun from above. yet lets open air hit the plants, and top dress the base of the stems

polyarcturus said:

nah KP h esaid it himself what the prob was(gd walls of text)

yes this is exacly what happened your flowering clones had yet to revert back to veg, those rams horn leaves as they are called are a result of unbalanced hormones from the switch back to veg. they will return to growing as normal after some time.nothing you can do about it, unless you add a dark time to your veg and had slowly weaned them back to 24/0, but most of us dont have time for his.

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thank you for the reinsurance , i will just flower all above 14 inches at let any shorties keep vegging, more pix coming soon.

hey, maybe you can help me. its an outdoor grow, using local potting soil. I have ferted twice with GH micro, gro and bloom. a few days ago I had noticed some brown spots on the bottom leaves. then today I checked them, and the brown spots didnt get much worse but now there is some yellowing on the same leaf The first 3 pics were from today. the next pics are from the 5th.

Did you splash any of the fert mix on your leaves by chance? Accidental or otherwise?

and when you say you "ferted" what exactly does that mean, how did you fertilize? i understand you mixed nutes in water, what im asking is how much nutes were mixed in and how often did you feed? how close together where these feedings. i have to agree with KP you either splashed some nutes around, or over fed.