Placing the seed directly in the final pot outdoor

Nanni70 · Jun 27, 2019

Hi, i dont want to transplant, so i put the germinated seed in a 22L pot outdoor in the sun.
I can't start my plant indoor (northern light automatic) because i dont have space on Windows or dont have led lights.
It Is safe to let the seed sprout and grow outdoor ? It's pretty hot there (35-38c) these days, central europe

Rainbow Warrior · Jun 27, 2019

Sounds very hot. Saying that, I grow in the greenhouse albeit the plants at a bit bigger when placed there, but temps peak similar to yours. Shade them.
Careful not to overwater the seedlings

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hellmutt bones · Jun 27, 2019

Nanni70 said:
Hi, i dont want to transplant, so i put the germinated seed in a 22L pot outdoor in the sun.
I can't start my plant indoor (northern light automatic) because i dont have space on Windows or dont have led lights.
It Is safe to let the seed sprout and grow outdoor ? It's pretty hot there (35-38c) these days, central europe

Just wasted a good seed.

Nanni70 · Jun 28, 2019

hellmutt bones said:
Just wasted a good seed.

What do i have to do?

hellmutt bones · Jun 28, 2019

Get some t 5 and put them under cause the sun is gonna burn them. They need to be a certain height before they get full sun.

Jimdamick · Jun 28, 2019

Nanni70 said:
What do i have to do?

You should really try to start them indoors in a small pot, and transplant, it's not that hard.
You don't need a big light to start a plant, buy a simple CFL and once they are around 3 weeks old, then transplant.
Did the plant emerge?

Nanni70 · Jun 28, 2019

Jimdamick said:
You should really try to start them indoors in a small pot, and transplant, it's not that hard.
You don't need a big light to start a plant, buy a simple CFL and once they are around 3 weeks old, then transplant.
Did the plant emerge?

I have a 25/30w led with Blue light/Red light but i feel like It slows too much the grow of the plant since it's too weak
I Heard that transplant Is too stress full for an autoflower
No, i planted It 48h ago, It still didnt emerge
Usually how long does It take?
Now i moved her in a partial shade position

CanadianJim · Jun 28, 2019

hellmutt bones said:
Get some t 5 and put them under cause the sun is gonna burn them. They need to be a certain height before they get full sun.

Depends where you are, and what season. West coast, a lot of guys have seeds that got started by accident outside, mostly ones that got swept outside or put in compost which was later used in the garden. Seedlings popped up in the spring. If you're careful planting in the final pot is a lot like putting a seed directly in the ground outdoors, but this late in the season the sun will probably be too strong for them. That being said, indicas and the ruderalis strains autoflowers come from are both pretty sturdy dealing with harsh conditions, including sunlight at high elevations. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes up to a week for the seed to pop if it does.

Nanni70 · Jun 28, 2019

CanadianJim said:
Depends where you are, and what season. West coast, a lot of guys have seeds that got started by accident outside, mostly ones that got swept outside or put in compost which was later used in the garden. Seedlings popped up in the spring. If you're careful planting in the final pot is a lot like putting a seed directly in the ground outdoors, but this late in the season the sun will probably be too strong for them. That being said, indicas and the ruderalis strains autoflowers come from are both pretty sturdy dealing with harsh conditions, including sunlight at high elevations. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes up to a week for the seed to pop if it does.

Will a 30w led strip be enough to grow the plant for the First 10days?

CanadianJim · Jun 28, 2019

Nanni70 said:
Will a 30w led strip be enough to grow the plant for the First 10days?

Should be. I use a t5 fluorescent to start my seeds. Is the led strip the kind you can use to replace t5 bulbs in grow light fixtures?
What spectrum is it, 5000k, 6400k?

Nanni70 · Jun 28, 2019

CanadianJim said:
Should be. I use a t5 fluorescent to start my seeds. Is the led strip the kind you can use to replace t5 bulbs in grow light fixtures?
What spectrum is it, 5000k, 6400k?

It Is something like this, 26-28w.
Dont know the spectrum

CanadianJim · Jun 28, 2019

Nanni70 said:
It Is something like this, 26-28w.
Dont know the spectrum

I've never used one of those, it doesn't look like it'll be bright enough, but you can try it. If the seedling stretches then you know it's not bright enough. A dappled shade spot outside might be better, but then you have to protect the seedling from pests like mice, rabbits and chipmunks. They'll eat the plant, and chipmunks will dig up the roots to eat.

Nanni70 · Jun 28, 2019

CanadianJim said:
I've never used one of those, it doesn't look like it'll be bright enough, but you can try it. If the seedling stretches then you know it's not bright enough. A dappled shade spot outside might be better, but then you have to protect the seedling from pests like mice, rabbits and chipmunks. They'll eat the plant, and chipmunks will dig up the roots to eat.

I placed It in shade. It only has 2-3hours of sun

CanadianJim · Jun 28, 2019

One thing you might consider, especially if you plan to do this again, is taking a tomato cage and covering it in thin netting or screen upside down over your seedling. Filters the light a little bit so it won't scorch your seedling, and protects it from bugs and critters. Like this pic.

sloatthritter · Jun 28, 2019

hellmutt bones said:
Get some t 5 and put them under cause the sun is gonna burn them. They need to be a certain height before they get full sun.

Man this is malarkey. The plant is native to outdoors — when that momma plant drops her seeds in nature, do you think they are then first brought indoors under artificial light?

Unless you have harsh conditions there is no reason not to think you can’t start seedlings in solo cups from sprout under full sun. Plus this means no need to harden the plant or acclimatize it to the 14/10 light schedule

hellmutt bones · Jun 28, 2019

sloatthritter said:
Man this is malarkey. The plant is native to outdoors — when that momma plant drops her seeds in nature, do you think they are then first brought indoors under artificial light?

Unless you have harsh conditions there is no reason not to think you can’t start seedlings in solo cups from sprout under full sun. Plus this means no need to harden the plant or acclimatize it to the 14/10 light schedule

Dumb ass!
Just said that heat was around 38 degrees Celsius. Read some shit before you call me a malarke! You can tell this dude is a noob bongsmilie

Jimdamick · Jun 28, 2019

Nanni70 said:
No, i planted It 48h ago, It still didnt emerge
Usually how long does It take?
Now i moved her in a partial shade position

It will take at least 3 days, more likely 4.
Don't worry about the sun, a plant needs sun, not shade, so just let it do it's thing.
Where do you live?

newguy41410 · Jun 28, 2019

CanadianJim said:
One thing you might consider, especially if you plan to do this again, is taking a tomato cage and covering it in thin netting or screen upside down over your seedling. Filters the light a little bit so it won't scorch your seedling, and protects it from bugs and critters. Like this pic.

hey this is awesome. Do you think this contraption would work for hardening off plants that are going from indoor to outdoor? Like transplant the plant into my no-till containers in direct sun but put the tomato cage+netting over the transplant??

newguy41410 · Jun 28, 2019

sloatthritter said:
Man this is malarkey. The plant is native to outdoors — when that momma plant drops her seeds in nature, do you think they are then first brought indoors under artificial light?

Unless you have harsh conditions there is no reason not to think you can’t start seedlings in solo cups from sprout under full sun. Plus this means no need to harden the plant or acclimatize it to the 14/10 light schedule

exactly.

hellmutt bones said:
Dumb ass!
Just said that heat was around 38 degrees Celsius. Read some shit before you call me a malarke! You can tell this dude is a noob

I think the only noob in here is you. It was obvious when you came into my thread and said some irrelevant shit that wasn't relevant to my question and made some false blanket statements. But it didn't matter cuz I just ignored you and listened to what others had to say. What exactly do you have to contribute besides your uneducated opinion on the subject of growing and your condescending replies to people?

Some people are here to learn. I'd say most on this forum are here to learn. Some people are here to teach. YOU are obviously not one to teach. Now go "read some shit," kid....

CanadianJim · Jun 28, 2019

newguy41410 said:
hey this is awesome. Do you think this contraption would work for hardening off plants that are going from indoor to outdoor? Like transplant the plant into my no-till containers in direct sun but put the tomato cage+netting over the transplant??

Yeah, I was thinking of doing that, but since I had a lot of plants that were staying in pots, I had to harden them off anyway. One more pot to move wasn't really enough motivation to do it.

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