Pictures and questions, outdoor grow

Ok. Just have to say sounds like I'm driving you all nuts which is kinda funny.

Yes I want the best for what I'm dealing with, but I've taken the laissez-faire approach as I have from day 1 and it seems to be great aside from taking forever. I usually don't fix it if it ain't broke.

That said, I'm off work tomorrow and I will go ahead and do the tomato boost whatever if I can find it and think of a good line to spit out if anyone asks why I'd be buying that mid Oct. I see the scene of walter white watching that kid in Walmart buy ten packs of matches and chemicals in my head! (he knows exactly what the kid is doing.)

Since seeing your replies today I did a little reading off this site and basically it looks to me like if the plant is NOT deficient in P, or K adding it won't be terrible but won't be good for it either. Not so sure it's worth the risk but eff it I'll do it.

I found this lovely chart and thought I'd share. The only symptom I may have us red stems, but they've been this way for months - maybe always, so may just be the way it is. The other symptoms my plant is showing the opposite. In fact, I can't even find a yellowing leaf on the entire plant. I've even cut off probably a good 70-80 huge green beautiful fan leaves a couple weeks ago. It's a specimen, healthy as a horse. I'm a novice idiot, I get it. I will say though that through all the reading I've done and videos I've watched I believe many growers would feel just as strongly about their advice had I sold them placebo nutes, especially but not limited to the outdoor growers who grow in the ground. My opinion is that a few of you are educated and horticulture enthusiasts, many others just stoners with a hard on to grow your own. I love you both I just need to figure out which is which before Fucking with mine Lmao!!

Chicago Mike said:

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....but minimally would like it to be able to be smoked.

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I'd take it. Bet it's better than the ditch weed and brick weed I had back in the 70's!

freewanderer04 said:

I literally said the same thing earlier in the thread lol

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maybe thats where i heard it

heres the thing. its not that your plant is showing any huge deficiencies, its that plants use more P and a lot more K during flower. all your leaves look just fine, your buds are a little whispy. thats why. and they won't get fatter and denser if you don't give em the food they need to do it. since you haven't been feeding at all basically, i'd say no N, try to find something with a ratio of 0-1-2, P is important in flowering, but its K at the end that packs on the weight

Chicago Mike said:

Ok. Just have to say sounds like I'm driving you all nuts which is kinda funny.
My opinion is that a few of you are educated and horticulture enthusiasts, many others just stoners with a hard on to grow your own. I love you both I just need to figure out which is which before Fucking with mine Lmao!!

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I think there are some horticultural enthusiasts who have a hard on for your plant!!

Ok now. They had a bunch of stuff but all of it even the tomato stuff had way more N than P or K, like 19/12/12 and so forth. I found ONE choice that had less N than PK so I got it. Cannot for the life of me figure out how much to give. Please help if you know this shit as well as you all say! Looks like I have to leave it overnight so sooner you can help the better and I can feed tomorrow.

i'd make about a gallon of that and use 3/4 of it as a soil drench and the other 1/4 as a foliar spray. its going to have solids in it so pour the part your going to spray out first so you don't get that shit in your sprayer.
then i'd do the same thing next week, then stand back and watch it

Roger A. Shrubber said:

i'd make about a gallon of that and use 3/4 of it as a soil drench and the other 1/4 as a foliar spray. its going to have solids in it so pour the part your going to spray out first so you don't get that shit in your sprayer.
then i'd do the same thing next week, then stand back and watch it

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Foliar spray in full flower? Maybe in a dry climate or if it hasn't rained in a while. Idk... I'd stick with just fertilizing the soil. Mold at this point would be a shame.

i guess that could be an issue, i was just thinking about the quick uptake from foliar feeding.

Chicago Mike said:

Ok now. They had a bunch of stuff but all of it even the tomato stuff had way more N than P or K, like 19/12/12 and so forth. I found ONE choice that had less N than PK so I got it. Cannot for the life of me figure out how much to give. Please help if you know this shit as well as you all say! Looks like I have to leave it overnight so sooner you can help the better and I can feed tomorrow. View attachment 3810485View attachment 3810487View attachment 3810489

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That looks good! I'd do 1 gallon 1/2 cup to start with applied directly to the soil. This will just give her a little extra boost!

freewanderer04 said:

That looks good! I'd do 1 gallon 1/2 cup to start with applied directly to the soil. This will just give her a little extra boost!

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What he said...^^^^^ repeat next week.. I use the same stuff...

freewanderer04 said:

That looks good! I'd do 1 gallon 1/2 cup to start with applied directly to the soil. This will just give her a little extra boost!

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So yeah I made the ratio suggested on the package 1 cup to 1 gallon. You think I should double the water or leave it as I made it?

You can use it full strength...then water with another gallon to spread it out..
Made giant pumpkin flowers!

Chicago Mike said:

So yeah I made the ratio suggested on the package 1 cup to 1 gallon. You think I should double the water or leave it as I made it?

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I'd go with full strength. I know you were trying to be conservative so that's why I mentioned half strength. Leave as is.

And i know its probably a silly point but in the interests of leaning and all that crap. Stems and Petioles are not the same.

Very important to know when diagnosing problems. Im battling a P problem that i let get to far advanced atm as im a lazy ass grower as well.

Looks like you caught the bug. Its a fun plant to grow. Im already looking forward to your next years thread.

1st off for some plant food you just found at the shop that stuff sounds pretty good

a wee bit more K and a bit less P than what I like but its cool

I would use around 10g per gal

you could probably push to 20g per gal max normally.... but as this plant has never had a feeding I would go with 5 to 10g per gal and feed it once maybe twice per week

I would stop using that stuff around a week before you plan to cut but if your going to grow stuff in that soil anyway it`ll just end up feeding whatever you put in there next.

Are you going to finish by boiling the roots or just going to flood it out with water ?

Lucky Luke said:

And i know its probably a silly point but in the interests of leaning and all that crap. Stems and Petioles are not the same.

Very important to know when diagnosing problems. Im battling a P problem that i let get to far advanced atm as im a lazy ass grower as well.

Looks like you caught the bug. Its a fun plant to grow. Im already looking forward to your next years thread.

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Thanks!

Yeah I'm not sure what the draw is. I mean I can purchase the goods and as much as I want probably as we all can I'm sure. I find myself staring at the thing each day for a while. Of course I've always been a little nutty with plants of all kind.

Definitely growing next year. Have a spot all picked out, and got the guy who gave me these seeds originally to accept a mailing from the seed bank. He calls me every day to ask how the shrub is doing. Sent him pics a couple weeks ago, was nice to catch up.

Can't wait to dump the bloom food on tomorrow!

THE KONASSURE said:

1st off for some plant food you just found at the shop that stuff sounds pretty good

a wee bit more K and a bit less P than what I like but its cool

I would use around 10g per gal

you could probably push to 20g per gal max normally.... but as this plant has never had a feeding I would go with 5 to 10g per gal and feed it once maybe twice per week

I would stop using that stuff around a week before you plan to cut but if your going to grow stuff in that soil anyway it`ll just end up feeding whatever you put in there next.

Are you going to finish by boiling the roots or just going to flood it out with water ?

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Have never heard of boiling the roots, do tell!

I have not read up on flushing since I never intended to feed it. Does it really need it? I mean I'm not growing in hydro with a bunch of chemicals. Just a little feeding here no?

oh fuck here we go..anytime anyone mentions flushing it starts world war w/e.
boiling the roots is an old technique that has some adherents, most notably RM3, one of the more advanced growers on the site. i'm planning on trying it out myself soon. about 5-7 days before you want to chop, you just pour boiling water through your roots, at least the same volume as your pot, more is better. it causes the plant to think its in severe flood conditions and it starts to use all the carbohydrates and sugars it has stored to survive, basically like getting a weeks cure before you cut the plant down. i wouldn't recommend it for an outdoor plant unless you have the means to boil a lot of water at once.

flushing? i don't. don't think its a good idea. all i'm gonna say at the minute, i'm sure there will be plenty of people along shortly to elaborate

I wouldn't worry about flushing an outdoor in the ground organic plant... I never have and their taste is fine..
I just finished my first Dr Earth grow using the flower girl, plus a couple others.. worked good,you can use it next year...
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