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Picking what to grow?

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annierox

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I am having an incredibly hard time choosing which strain to grow.

I will be running 600 or 1000w in a 4x4 tent with 4 plants.
It is my first grow so something that is forgiving would be nice.
I am hoping to find something that makes the grower in me happy and the smoker in me happy.

So what are some good, maybe easy strains you guys have grown and would recommend?
 
hazey grapes

hazey grapes

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if you want "the" classic beginner strain, northern lights #5 is nice. it's low odor and very productive. it's been used in tons of strains. it's more on the stoney side

along similar lines, especially if you're growing in small spaces, black label seeds' autoflowering masterkush is a TOTAL no brainer. it starts flowering on it's own under 24 hours of light and was harvested in 2 months from seed. the yield per plant is small, but it's a really fast & dense plant with reasonably low odor and a decent mid buzz not unlike skunk #1.

mandala's strains are notably noob friendly. i love his 8 miles high strain. his hashberry is very popular, but very stinky too. i didn't like that much.

i go more for strains that only get you high, so the stuff i like like haze skunk & jack's cleaner 2 takes a little longer, but john sinclair's sativa trans love surprised me with how fast it switched to flowering leaving other strains that had a similar fruity & up haze type high in the dust. that's a strain you can fit in small places and get really nice sticky buds that get you high faster than many indica strains.

for REALLY awesome smoke, jack's cleaner 2 only takes 9 weeks and it's buzz is super trippy like many 12 week+ strains. that's about as easy as real trippy highs get.

cinderella 99 & apollo 11 are both strains that get you high and that finish in under 60 days each. C99 tends to be speedier & more clear headed while A11 is mellower & trippier. you're not going to find too many strains that get you high like those any faster.

check out TGA subcool's gear. almost everything in his collection is loved. his JC2 is my personal favorite though many swear by the stony but happy as a clam jillybean and jack the ripper is popular for fans of trippy but paranoid strains with many in between like A13 vortex that's an all around fun sounding strain that finishes fast enough.

it's REALLY hard to make recommendations as everyones' tastes are so different. i only like getting high, where many only want to get stoned. many love the taste of diesels, but they're disgusting to me and so on.

what EXACTLY are you looking for?
- flavor?
- potency?
- high? stoned? a little of both?
- fast harvests of as much bud as possible?
- fancy colors like purple?

if you want strains that LITERALLY make you happy, then you should add euphoria to your keyword searches and look into strains like C99, romulan, skunk #1, jillybean & jack 33 etc. sativas tend to have more euphoria & motivation in their buzzes, but they tend to take longer to finish & yield less trading quantity for quality. THE literal happiest strain i ever smoked was kali mist. it's too energetic to sit still on and way more clear headed than trippy, but there was no couchlock in the buzz at all and it was hard to stop grinning on it. it takes 17 weeks though and isn't an "easy strain" to grow.

the "best strain" for you should suit the kind of buzz you like best more than anything with flavors and colors only being nice added perks by my standards, but i'm a total old school snob.
 
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annierox

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Flavor and smell I am pretty neutral about, I really like the taste of trainwreck and the smell, however it wouldnt make me pick one strain over another.

Potency, I suppose the stronger the better my tolerance is through the roof and I use quiet often for medical (insomia, chronic pain, and anxiety) and recreational use.

My biggest issue is I really like a stony for bedtime and a high for daytime like I am sure most people do, I was hoping I could do 2 of each and find strains with similar heights

High and stoned would be preferable, a good laughing high and a pain relieving stone would be ideal I suppose or something similar to that.

Harvest is pretty neutral as well, since I am a novice a lot of bud would be nice since it will be low due to my lack of experience probably

While colors are always fun in my opinion, since it is my first grow I would probably prefer to stick with a green so I can use color to tell if anything is going wrong.

I am crazy to think I will find all that in a strain that is also nice to beginners, but the closest thing to it would be fantastic :P
 
hazey grapes

hazey grapes

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read up on jillybean. that's a nice euphoric stoner strain that i bet you'd like. it just got a nice grow and smoke report here a couple months ago. TGA's gear is very good and that's one of his most popular strains.

height doesn't have to be an issue. read up on SCROGging. it's the best supercropping technique, especially for mixed strain gardens. it's a really good tech for limited spaces too as you can fill up every square inch with plants and all of your buds will think they're "top colas".

on the motivation & high end, i tell you, high quality seeds' haze x skunk is crazy potent! it has a long lasting buzz that doesn't turn stony. it's a 12 week strain, but i was harvesting crazy buds from it before that, especially tops. it's a really good strain for scrogging too as it stretches and squirts a single bud out every couple inches. you could make a lot of buds topping & SCROGging that. it's really good pain med too. i went on a diet by just ignoring my hunger on that strain. very motivational & creative with mild psychoactivity and no more couchlock than lead eyelids. the cigar wrapper flavor wasn't a favorite, but it's a serious strong high.

back to TGA subcool, i like his faster 9 week jack's cleaner 2 more because it's genuinely trippy. it has a stronger stone, but definitely a lot more psychoactivity with nice euphoria to boot. his jack the ripper is supposed to be nice too. the flavor wasn't too lemony, but was much nicer than haze skunk which i think is the more potent of the two. i really need to test them side by side.

going by your "i want a good high and a good stone with euphoria" answer, i'd suggest jillybean & jack's cleaner 2 or jack the ripper as top quality strains you should be able to pull off easily enough, especially if you let them stretch out on a scrog net. NL#5 is safe, but more boring than jillybean which has flavor and more euphoria too i bet.

DNA genetics' lemon skunk would be a nice strain in between in the "mid territory". it's a nice combination of high and stoned that's very 24/7 friendly. skunk #1 is another classic beginner strain, though now it has tons of phenos like lemon, roadkill, cheese and more i'm sure. i liked lemon skunk better than stonier skunk #1. i'd suggest that as an improved classic. as far as mids go, i liked it.

if you want a skunky nothing but stone strain, look for anything with afghani in it's name. that's the strain that defined "bag appeal" (strong skunky odors, dense hard buds, plenty of resin etc.) there should be a lot of easy to grow afghanis. i'd say get something with at least SOME sativa traits in it's buzz like jillybean on the stoner front.

romulan is a really popular strain that's stony and trippy too. it's in jillybean and a lot of crosses. it can get skunky too. some people can't get enough stink in a strain and others like low odor better. the good news is that there's enough range that you can find almost any combination of traits you can imagine.

for SERIOUS potency in strains that get you stoned, you might want to try an AK-47 lowrider. those can be as short as 17". it's a strain that gets funky, but it earned it's one hit wonder name. even more potent, heroauna is about the strongest stone you can get. i don't know about it's odor profile.

growing at least a couple strains with very different personalities is a good idea. it will help you better define your tastes finding out exactly what you do and don't like. for many, a novel flavor on an otherwise same old same old stone is their idea of perfection. euphoria at the very least (if not motivation or even raciness) should be essential in almost any strain. why would anyone want a strain that doesn't give free happiness when it's doable? that's why pure (afghani) stones annoy me. no euphoria and no sensory effects or motivation. the world of hybrids offer every combination of all of those qualities.
 
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annierox

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hazey grapes said:
read up on jillybean. that's a nice euphoric stoner strain that i bet you'd like. it just got a nice grow and smoke report here a couple months ago. TGA's gear is very good and that's one of his most popular strains.

height doesn't have to be an issue. read up on SCROGging. it's the best supercropping technique, especially for mixed strain gardens. it's a really good tech for limited spaces too as you can fill up every square inch with plants and all of your buds will think they're "top colas".

on the motivation & high end, i tell you, high quality seeds' haze x skunk is crazy potent! it has a long lasting buzz that doesn't turn stony. it's a 12 week strain, but i was harvesting crazy buds from it before that, especially tops. it's a really good strain for scrogging too as it stretches and squirts a single bud out every couple inches. you could make a lot of buds topping & SCROGging that. it's really good pain med too. i went on a diet by just ignoring my hunger on that strain. very motivational & creative with mild psychoactivity and no more couchlock than lead eyelids. the cigar wrapper flavor wasn't a favorite, but it's a serious strong high.

back to TGA subcool, i like his faster 9 week jack's cleaner 2 more because it's genuinely trippy. it has a stronger stone, but definitely a lot more psychoactivity with nice euphoria to boot. his jack the ripper is supposed to be nice too. the flavor wasn't too lemony, but was much nicer than haze skunk which i think is the more potent of the two. i really need to test them side by side.

going by your "i want a good high and a good stone with euphoria" answer, i'd suggest jillybean & jack's cleaner 2 or jack the ripper as top quality strains you should be able to pull off easily enough, especially if you let them stretch out on a scrog net. NL#5 is safe, but more boring than jillybean which has flavor and more euphoria too i bet.

DNA genetics' lemon skunk would be a nice strain in between in the "mid territory". it's a nice combination of high and stoned that's very 24/7 friendly. skunk #1 is another classic beginner strain, though now it has tons of phenos like lemon, roadkill, cheese and more i'm sure. i liked lemon skunk better than stonier skunk #1. i'd suggest that as an improved classic. as far as mids go, i liked it.

if you want a skunky nothing but stone strain, look for anything with afghani in it's name. that's the strain that defined "bag appeal" (strong skunky odors, dense hard buds, plenty of resin etc.) there should be a lot of easy to grow afghanis. i'd say get something with at least SOME sativa traits in it's buzz like jillybean on the stoner front.

romulan is a really popular strain that's stony and trippy too. it's in jillybean and a lot of crosses. it can get skunky too. some people can't get enough stink in a strain and others like low odor better. the good news is that there's enough range that you can find almost any combination of traits you can imagine.

for SERIOUS potency in strains that get you stoned, you might want to try an AK-47 lowrider. those can be as short as 17". it's a strain that gets funky, but it earned it's one hit wonder name. even more potent, heroauna is about the strongest stone you can get. i don't know about it's odor profile.

growing at least a couple strains with very different personalities is a good idea. it will help you better define your tastes finding out exactly what you do and don't like. for many, a novel flavor on an otherwise same old same old stone is their idea of perfection. euphoria at the very least (if not motivation or even raciness) should be essential in almost any strain. why would anyone want a strain that doesn't give free happiness when it's doable? that's why pure (afghani) stones annoy me. no euphoria and no sensory effects or motivation. the world of hybrids offer every combination of all of those qualities.
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Thanks for all the great recommendations I am probably just going to take the easy route and trust your recommendation of cleaner 2 and jilly bean, however they only sell reg seeds, i had planned on doing fem to make it a bit easier, but I think I can handle it
 
bigv1976

bigv1976

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I am not sure why anyone would reccomend Nirvana to anyone but World of Seeds Medical Collection NL x BB would be perfect for that set up and they are very easy to grow and maintain. I just grew some and averaged around 100g per plant in DWC under 600 watts. They are a bit pricey but they are worth every penny.
 
hazey grapes

hazey grapes

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nirvana used to be, at least, a really good entry level breeder. i had great results with a lot of their stuff a few years back at least in the viability department and to their "credit", their sativa seeds line highland thai (full moon) totally lives up to ALL of the traits associated with real highland thai including being hermie prone and a general fussy bitch to flower, so it's not watered down like many strains claiming to be IBLs that are really just hybrids.

as to sexing plants, it's not that hard really. if you see a claw shaped knob, it's a male and if you see a couple hairs sprouting, it's a female. really, you're better off with regs than fems. feminized seeds can turn hermie and the general consensus seems to be that regular plants are a little healthier with more vigor. i also prefer regs for breeding purposes but not every breeder offers their best in regs.

if you order like RIGHT NOW from attitude, you can get 5 great femmed freebies to play with too plus whatever extra UFO freebies you qualify for with this month's newsletter offer ending tomorrow. those freebies are a great way to try new stuff out. some of my favorite strains started out as freebies like sativa trans love that might have the same euphoric clear headed motivational buzz as a lot of jacks & hazes, but makes the buds and resin like it thinks it's an indica. until i find better, it's going to be a staple in my garden but i've also liked short stuff's super cali haze, DNA's lemon skunk and even short stuff's onyx despite the yucky diesel taste because it had an awesome buzz. i'll NEVER understand the appeal of smoking a truck exhaust.

if you were to buy just 3 regular seeds for any strain, you have a 75% chance of getting at least one female. it IS statistically possible though to buy an entire 5 pack and get all males. that happened to some whizzed off camper a couple years ago, but the odds are only something like 1:12,000 of that happening, nowhere near as impossible as they thought.

back to nirvana, DON'T buy either their fems or their autos. i've seen nothing but grief with those, but their regular seeds are decent enough. if you bought their indoor pack, you'd get up to 5 different females to test. they'd only be average grade knockoffs, but it's a cheap way to learn the ropes.

here's to hoping you find strains that are EXACTLY what you like. TGA is a fairly safe bet though. the worst review i've seen was for one "average & uninspiring" strain by a reviewer that loved everything else and a lot of praise otherwise. like someone told me before i tried the JC2, TGA's gear is legit. if it's claimed to get you high, it really does and if it's claimed to be stony, it'll fuck you up. (basically, his gear does what it promises and he puts a lot of time and effort into making extra special crosses) you just have to try TGA's gear to see for yourself. i used to be skeptical. all that praise sounded too good to be true.
 
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annierox

Member
You have convinced me to try TGA, I was a bit worried because I have never smoked any of the strains offered, but I cant ignore all the praise for them. I am thinking Pandora's Box, as it sounds like it will match well with my anxiety and lack of appetite. and then Qleaner as it seems like it will be a good happy bedtime strain. Any input on these choices? The Qleaner sounds like it may be a bit taller than the pandoras, but nothing I can't handle with some novice lst correct?

And if I am aiming for 4 plants (two of each) should I buy a 5 pack of each strain? or would 3 or 4 of each suffice?
 
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