PH & Organics

PurpletrainWrecker said:

Un true might i ask what is coming out of seeds other then a Tap root when it first cracks ???? that is exactly what it is clones pending on how you clone you can also achieve tap roots systems 1st year botany class in most cases when cloning off a cutting initial roots form are the feeder root system View attachment 3704243

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untrue.
cannabis is a dicot plant.
you are confusing the part of the plant that first emerges from the seed is the embryonic root, termed the radicle or primary root.
a taproot is something different.
all respect intended, 1st yr botany class has misinformed you.

greasemonkeymann said:

untrue.
cannabis is a dicot plant.
you are confusing the part of the plant that first emerges from the seed is the embryonic root, termed the radicle or primary root.
a taproot is something different.
all respect intended, 1st yr botany class has misinformed you.

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I was under the impression the white vessel-shaped thing coming out of the seed was the taproot as well, bro. Can you clarify for my sake?

Olive Drab Green said:

I was under the impression the white vessel-shaped thing coming out of the seed was the taproot as well, bro. Can you clarify for my sake?

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honestly my man, it's ALL a po-TAH-toe, po- TOT-to type thing
which was my point, from a definition/horticulture/botany standpoint, that's not called a taproot, that's the part of the plant that first emerges from the seed is the embryonic root, termed the radicle or primary root
that is completely different than a taproot, it's just commonly and MIS-identified as such.
Make sense?
that's why I said it the way I did, because it's sorta a moot point
I feel a bit like a douche-nozzle for arguing it, but it's simply not true.

please re read what you just wrote and correct your mistake before others see lol moncots have fibrous root systems and dicots species produce Tap roots there fore your wrong
Hurry Goggle it

As a licensed horticulturalist here first year botany class
The primary root which develops from a radicle and becomes dominant is called a taproot, as in carrot. Roots that develop from other roots are generally called lateral roots; those that arise from other plant organs rather than the root, such as from stems or leaves, are called adventitious roots.

A taproot system is one in which the primary root becomes the main root of the plant with minimal branching consisting of secondary, smaller lateral roots. The taproot system occurs in dicot plants and is one of the basis of distinguishing these plants from the monocots which have fibrous roots.

In plants having a taproot system, the trunk-like primary root develops directly from the embryonic root called radicle and grows downward into the soil. From this taproot, lateral roots develop which may initially grow horizontally then turn downward. These roots repeatedly form finer roots which terminate in a root tip with a minute, dome-shaped, protective root cap at the tipmost part. As the root grows, it pushes its root cap forward, probing the soil and absorbing water and nutrients mainly through fine root hairs. The root hairs are extensions of the epidermis which develop in the region of differentiation. These plant organs are short-lived and constantly replaced.

Olive Drab Green said:

I was under the impression the white vessel-shaped thing coming out of the seed was the taproot as well, bro. Can you clarify for my sake?

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an analogy I can think of is when people talk about their transmission.
more often than not it's NOT a transmission at all, rather a transaxle (totally different) but people identify it as that because for yrs nobody cared enough to differentiate it.

PurpletrainWrecker said:

please re read what you just wrote and correct your mistake before others see lol moncots have fibrous root systems and dicots species produce Tap roots there fore your wrong
Hurry Goggle it

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Don't need to, you are incorrect, and this thread has all the proof you need, so go re-read yourself..
Or heres a novel thought, go dig up your marijuaa-plant and SHOW me this taproot.
I 'will say it one more time.
CANNABIS does NOT have a "taproot"
it's a fibrous rooting system, NOT a taproot.
I'm not having this argument again, believe whatever erroneous stuff you want.
it's Friday, and I've no time to proof factual things to people i'll never interact with.

PurpletrainWrecker said:

As a licensed horticulturalist here first year botany class
The primary root which develops from a radicle and becomes dominant is called a taproot, as in carrot. Roots that develop from other roots are generally called lateral roots; those that arise from other plant organs rather than the root, such as from stems or leaves, are called adventitious roots.

A taproot system is one in which the primary root becomes the main root of the plant with minimal branching consisting of secondary, smaller lateral roots. The taproot system occurs in dicot plants and is one of the basis of distinguishing these plants from the monocots which have fibrous roots.

In plants having a taproot system, the trunk-like primary root develops directly from the embryonic root called radicle and grows downward into the soil. From this taproot, lateral roots develop which may initially grow horizontally then turn downward. These roots repeatedly form finer roots which terminate in a root tip with a minute, dome-shaped, protective root cap at the tipmost part. As the root grows, it pushes its root cap forward, probing the soil and absorbing water and nutrients mainly through fine root hairs. The root hairs are extensions of the epidermis which develop in the region of differentiation. These plant organs are short-lived and constantly replaced.View attachment 3704619 View attachment 3704620

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by YOUR definition, you are incorrect.
go grow a plant.
Licensed horticulturist.

greasemonkeymann said:

by YOUR definition, you are incorrect.
go grow a plant.
Licensed horticulturist.

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Its ironic that one would feed wrong info get your facts straight before spewing nonsense reported

PurpletrainWrecker said:

please re read what you just wrote and correct your mistake before others see lol moncots have fibrous root systems and dicots species produce Tap roots there fore your wrong
Hurry Goggle it

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here we go again

fibrous.

taproot.
so tell me.
WHAT does YOUR cannabis rootball look like?
here is another pic

and on closing note ?? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taproot


Dicots, one of the two divisions of angiosperms, start with a taproot,[2] which is one main root forming from the enlarging radicle of the seed. The tap root can be persistent throughout the life of the plant but is most often replaced later in the plant's development by a fibrous root system.[2][3] A persistent taproot system forms when the radicle keeps growing and smaller lateral roots form along the taproot. The shape of taproots can vary but the typical shapes include:

• Conical root: this type of root tuber is conical in shape, i.e. widest at the top and tapering steadily towards the bottom: e.g. carrot.
• Fusiform root: this root is widest in the middle and tapers towards the top and the bottom: e.g. radish.
• Napiform root: the root has a top-like appearance. It is very broad at the top and tapers suddenly like a tail at the bottom: e.g. turnip.

Many taproots are modified into storage organs.

Dicot meaning two cotyledons.

Olive Drab Green said:

Dicot meaning two cotyledons.

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Finally, a plant grown from seed will have a hearty root structure. For those of you completely unfamiliar with gardening of any kind, a tap root is the central part of a plant’s entire root system, extending deep into the surrounding soil and absorbing large amounts of nutrients. A clone is incapable of growing a tap root and may never be as strong and healthy as a plant grown from seed, which will develop its own tap root.

PurpletrainWrecker said:

and on closing note

• Conical root: this type of root tuber is conical in shape, i.e. widest at the top and tapering steadily towards the bottom: e.g. carrot.
• Fusiform root: this root is widest in the middle and tapers towards the top and the bottom: e.g. radish.
• Napiform root: the root has a top-like appearance. It is very broad at the top and tapers suddenly like a tail at the bottom: e.g. turnip.

Many taproots are modified into storage organs.

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dude...
ok the first example?
a carrot
the second?
a radish
the third?
a turnip.
so WTF does cannabis's so called taproot resemble out of YOUR three definitions?
a carrot, a turnip, or a radish?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

your "closing note" is a lil flawed.

it is NOT a taproot root system.
there is NO taproot upon harvest time, I've harvested over a thousand plants in my life, and have examined EV ERY single rootball.
with NO exception.
Never did I see a taproot.
so unless you are growing a totally special type of cannabis...

greasemonkeymann said:

yea, more than likely it's anaerobic, that smell is the nitrogen being lost to ammonia gas-off.
the bright side of that is the lowered ph in an anaerobic mix is what that bone meal needs in order to be bioavailable, so I guess that's a bright spot

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Damn... any advice on what I should do? Pour it all out let it dry?

gogogogogogo said:

Damn... any advice on what I should do? Pour it all out let it dry?

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spread it out and let it dry out it needs Air

greasemonkeymann said:

that's exactly what I discovered, I never even thought about taproots before, but in my early yrs I used a post-harvest rootball inspection to do my soil adjustments, and I just never saw anything resembling a main root or being a taproot, so it was merely from me seeing hundreds of solid rootballs.
I never meant for it to be even remotely an important distintion between the two, but from a botanical standpoint/definition, it's not a taproot at all.

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Root balls get solid from having walls. In a loose soil it won't be as hard.

Even when I did holes in hard ground and back fill there will be a tap and several big feeder roots that penetrate deep into the hard ground.

Dig up a cannabis plant that is about a month d and you will see a tap root.

You won't see it at the end of the year because the root ball hides it in a pot and in the ground you break it off.

I'll show a pic of a cannabis tap root. I'll plant some shitty seeds just to do it.

PurpletrainWrecker said:

Its ironic that one would feed wrong info get your facts straight before spewing nonsense reported

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Posting incorrect information or info you don't agree with isn't against tos and therefore not eligible for post deletions

There is the tap root. Looks like a carrot before it gets root bound.