Ph during flush (DWC)

I've never use anything but gh trio. And ph up or down. No calmag no extra stuff. Pretty simple. Tap water is 70ppm max. I've even been going no bennies. Temps got warm this summer and didn't matter. I figured I'd have root problems but didn't.

MVincent420 said:

Hmm really?? Literally that's it?? No additives?? Care to elaborate a bit??

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It's the Lucas formula only in 1 part.

cutting off nutrients to the plant and giving only water does not remove anything from the flowers. quite the opposite. once you stop fertigating the plant will begin to pull nutrients from the leaves and use to continue to keep itself alive and reproductively viable.

on top of that, there is simply no biological mechanism for a plant to remove things it's already been fed from the flowers. its all been converted to energy the plant uses for photosynthesis and growth. it isn't as If there are just unused bits of chelated nutrients hiding in the buds.

starving a plant for the last bit of flower really only helps by beginning some of the chemical conversion processes early. your basically getting a tiny head start on the dry/curing process

MustGro said:

I used to love gh’s FloraNova base. I ran the full line in hydro, wound up dropping out the rapid start, but kept the others. I found the new label FloraNova wasn’t as good as it used to be before Monsanto bought out GH. I was always 250-300 ppms lower in my tank with the new label. I’ve got the whole line here and I’m not running it. I switched to the Jack’s last grow, super easy and it’s real clean after you harvest. It does burn my tips though.
I used to flush with gh‘s FloraKleen, but stopped after I joined this site. Now I just cut back my ppm’s after the buds are getting done looking. I run them on tap water a few days at the end usually too and I stopped PHing the tap water as all I was doing was adding ppms to it at the very end.

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Monsanto didn't buy out GH. Scotts did and they are part of Scotts Hawthorne Gardening subsidiary. Botanicare and a bunch of other companies are part as well.


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xtsho said:

Monsanto didn't buy out GH. Scotts did and they are part of Scotts Hawthorne Gardening subsidiary. Botanicare and a bunch of other companies are part as well.

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Looks like you’re right on that, they linked up in 1998, got me confused. I’m not a big Scott‘s fan either. Monsanto got bought by Bayer anyway. More evil linking up.

Mergers and acquisitions[edit]

• 1914 - The O.M. Scott & Sons Company was incorporated
• 1992 - Scotts acquired Republic Tool & Manufacturing Company
• 1993 - Scotts acquired the Grace-Sierra Horticultural Products Company
• 1995 - Scotts merged with Miracle-Gro Products, Inc.
• 1997 - Scotts purchases Miracle Care Garden Ltd.
• 1997 - Scotts acquired Emerald Green Lawn Service, which would become Scotts Lawn Service in 1998.
• 1997 - Scotts purchased privately held Levington Horticulture Ltd.
• 1998 - The company acquired 80% ownership of plant breeding company Sanford Scientific, Inc. (SSI).
• 1998 - Scotts acquired Rhône-Poulenc Jardin
• 1998 - Scotts acquired the Shamrock brand of U.K. and Irish peat products form Bord na Mona, Ireland.
• 1998 - Scotts enters into collaboration with the Monsanto Company
• 1998 - Scotts completes an acquisition with ASEF
• 1999 - Scotts completes agreements with Monsanto Company for exclusive U.S., Canada, U.K., France, Germany, and Australia agency and marketing rights to Monsanto's consumer Roundup herbicide products and for the purchase of the Ortho and related lawn and garden businesses.
• 2000 - Scotts acquires Substral. Scotts also purchases Smith & Hawken
• 2005 - Scotts acquires the Morning Song brand.
• 2014 - Scotts Miracle-Gro sells wild bird food line to Global Harvest Foods Ltd.
• 2015 - Scotts Miracle-Gro buys General Hydroponics and Vermicrop Organics to move into the marijuana market, under the name Hawthorne Gardening Company
• 2015 - Scotts Lawn Service merges with ServiceMaster's TruGreen
• 2016 - Scotts acquires Blossom, a California manufacturer of Internet enabled sprinkler systems.[14]
• 2016 - Scotts acquires a minority share of Bonnie Plants.[15]
• 2017 - Scotts sells its European and Australian operations and brands to Exponent Private Equity LLP.[16]
• 2017 - Scotts acquired Can-Filters, a Canadian-based carbon filter manufacturer and fan wholesaler under their Hawthorne Gardening Co. brand.
• 2018 - Scotts Miracle-Gro announced its plan to acquire Sunlight Supply Inc., a hydroponics supplier, for $450 million in cash and stock.[17]
• 2019 - Scotts sells its minority stake in TruGreen for $234 million.[18]
• 2020 - Scotts acquires AeroGrow International lnc., a hydroponics maker.[19]

MustGro said:

Looks like you’re right on that, they linked up in 1998, got me confused. I’m not a big Scott‘s fan either. Monsanto got bought by Bayer anyway. More evil linking up.

Mergers and acquisitions[edit]

• 1914 - The O.M. Scott & Sons Company was incorporated
• 1992 - Scotts acquired Republic Tool & Manufacturing Company
• 1993 - Scotts acquired the Grace-Sierra Horticultural Products Company
• 1995 - Scotts merged with Miracle-Gro Products, Inc.
• 1997 - Scotts purchases Miracle Care Garden Ltd.
• 1997 - Scotts acquired Emerald Green Lawn Service, which would become Scotts Lawn Service in 1998.
• 1997 - Scotts purchased privately held Levington Horticulture Ltd.
• 1998 - The company acquired 80% ownership of plant breeding company Sanford Scientific, Inc. (SSI).
• 1998 - Scotts acquired Rhône-Poulenc Jardin
• 1998 - Scotts acquired the Shamrock brand of U.K. and Irish peat products form Bord na Mona, Ireland.
• 1998 - Scotts enters into collaboration with the Monsanto Company
• 1998 - Scotts completes an acquisition with ASEF
• 1999 - Scotts completes agreements with Monsanto Company for exclusive U.S., Canada, U.K., France, Germany, and Australia agency and marketing rights to Monsanto's consumer Roundup herbicide products and for the purchase of the Ortho and related lawn and garden businesses.
• 2000 - Scotts acquires Substral. Scotts also purchases Smith & Hawken
• 2005 - Scotts acquires the Morning Song brand.
• 2014 - Scotts Miracle-Gro sells wild bird food line to Global Harvest Foods Ltd.
• 2015 - Scotts Miracle-Gro buys General Hydroponics and Vermicrop Organics to move into the marijuana market, under the name Hawthorne Gardening Company
• 2015 - Scotts Lawn Service merges with ServiceMaster's TruGreen
• 2016 - Scotts acquires Blossom, a California manufacturer of Internet enabled sprinkler systems.[14]
• 2016 - Scotts acquires a minority share of Bonnie Plants.[15]
• 2017 - Scotts sells its European and Australian operations and brands to Exponent Private Equity LLP.[16]
• 2017 - Scotts acquired Can-Filters, a Canadian-based carbon filter manufacturer and fan wholesaler under their Hawthorne Gardening Co. brand.
• 2018 - Scotts Miracle-Gro announced its plan to acquire Sunlight Supply Inc., a hydroponics supplier, for $450 million in cash and stock.[17]
• 2019 - Scotts sells its minority stake in TruGreen for $234 million.[18]
• 2020 - Scotts acquires AeroGrow International lnc., a hydroponics maker.[19]

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I only commented on your post because I assumed you would want to have accurate information. I don't care for either company but some of the smaller ones that have been acquired by Scotts are still running the way they were before being acquired and still make a good product.

Scotts sure did make a move into the cannabis space though.

That’s fine with me @xtsho; I’m on this site to learn. Thanks.

rkymtnman said:

just like mustgrow said, it's based on Lucas formula 1:2 ratio of micro:bloom MaxiBloom is also a 1 part dry nute based on Lucas.

you "shouldn't" need anything else (maybe some Epsom salt if you see a bit of a Mg issue) even with RO.

i've never tried Jacks 321 but I love Jack's RO or Tap formulas. 1 part dry mix, no additives needed but i do add Silica and Fulvic acid.

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What silica and fulvic acids are you using?