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The Son of Man

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Animal rights group PETA has asked the jail housing a man accused of murdering his girlfriend and possibly eating her body parts not to feed him meat, the activist organization told FOXNews.com.
The People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals faxed a letter Thursday to the Smith County Sheriff's Jail in Tyler, Texas, asking that 25-year-old Christopher Lee McCuin be placed on a strict vegetarian diet to prevent him from being "involved in any senseless killing" while he's behind bars, said PETA Vice President Bruce Friedrich.
"Only in a culture where people routinely kill and eat living, feeling beings — corpses — would anybody think to kill and either eat or pretend to eat a human corpse," Friedrich said in a phone interview.
Click here to read the letter.
Sheriff J.B. Smith was shocked and amused by the request from Friedrich and said he learned of the letter from the local news media, including The Tyler Morning Telegraph, before actually receiving a copy at his office.
"I thought it was a joke," Smith told FOXNews.com. "I've been sheriff here for almost 30 years. I've seen a lot of things. This pretty much takes the cake."

McCuin is in prison for the killing of Jana Shearer, 21, and for suspected cannibalism.
When McCuin was arrested Jan. 5, confirmed Smith, there was a plate of what appeared to be human flesh and a fork on his kitchen table, as well as an ear boiling in water on the stove.
But the east Texas sheriff said he has no intention of changing the menu for McCuin or any other prisoner. The diet is turkey-based to cut down on costs, according to Smith.
"This is a jailhouse, not a hotel that takes requests for meals," he said, characterizing the PETA letter as a ploy to get publicity — and a successful one at that.
The Smith County Jail houses about 750 prisoners and serves them three meals a day, amounting to about 2,000 meals daily, according to the sheriff. The menu meets nutritional and calorie requirements established by the Texas Commission on Jail Standards, he said.
PETA believes the prison should go a step further.
"It is up to you to prevent McCuin from contributing to any more suffering and death by placing him on a healthy, humane vegetarian diet," Friedrich wrote in the letter, a copy of which was obtained by FOXNews.com.
Friedrich admitted that there is a distinction to be made between eating a human being and eating an animal, but said there are parallels too.
"Of course it's different, but there are similarities," he said. "If someone is horrified by the idea of eating a human corpse, then it's worth asking why we consider it acceptable to eat a chicken's or a pig's or any animal's corpse. Flesh is flesh."
Smith said McCuin will be fed the same meals — meat and all — as every other prisoner, because it would be against the law to treat him differently.
But PETA wants all the prisoners to be given vegetarian meals.
"Eating meat supports cruelty to animals that would be felony level if these were dogs or cats," contended Friedrich. "It's easy when tragedy strikes to be angry or sad or confused, but we should all challenge ourselves and ask what we could be doing that could be kinder."
Smith said the only time he honors special food requests is when the prison's in-house physician tells him to for health reasons. The meals generally include rice, noodles or vegetables in addition to the turkey, according to the sheriff.
"If they don't want to eat it, they can put it aside," he said. "And if they don't like the food here, then don't come back."
So far, PETA hasn't gotten an answer from the jail, according to Friedrich, who said that PETA jumps on every opportunity it finds to promote vegetarianism because animals have the same needs, desires and senses that people do.
"They value companionship, they dream, they play," he said. "They have the same core feelings that human beings do."
It is the third time the animal rights group, known for its attention-getting stunts to push its causes, has sent a letter to a jail requesting that an inmate be placed on a vegetarian diet.
PETA asked a British Columbia prison warden that Canadian murderer Robert Pickton — a pig farmer convicted of killing several people and selling some of his victims' body parts to customers who thought they were buying pork — be given vegetarian meals, according to Friedrich.
The point in the group's involvement in that case, as in this one, was to draw attention to the similarities as PETA sees them between eating humans and eating animals, he said.
The first instance was personal for Friedrich, an Oklahoma native: He wrote to the jail where convicted Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, who has since been executed, was incarcerated to demand that he be served vegetarian meals while he was on death row.
The jails in the other two cases also declined to comply.
Smith said that in the case of his prison, the reason is simple: If he granted a wish to one organization, the situation would snowball.
"If I take a special request from any organization, then I have to start taking special requests for every prisoner," the sheriff said.
PETA also weighed in on the infamous 1980s-era Jeffrey Dahmer case. Dahmer was a serial killer who dismembered his victims and kept some of their remains in his refrigerator.
"We did something drawing attention to the fact that Dahmer had corpses in his fridge, and most people also have corpses in their fridges," said Friedrich.
In the future, the advocacy organization plans to send letters to prisons in all cases it learns of involving cannibalism.
Friedrich admitted the tactic is used to get press, but he phrased it a little differently.
"The goal is to raise the consciousness of the public that eating meat is cruel," he said.
 

The Son of Man

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No meat and solitary confinement would be a totally shitty way to spend the rest of your life though. I give peta a point for trying to make those guys lives that much more miserable.
 

Sunnysideup

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I am with Stoney, as long as nothing is wasted and done humanely....
I grew up hanging out at our family slaughter house. I saw my first cow get killed at the age 5 seen thousands slaughtered since. Not one piece of the cow is wasted, not one. A lot of the parts went to the National Institute Of Health so they could do research.

If done humanely it is fine by me.
 

robert 14617

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ditto ssup nothing bothers me more than seeing those hidden cameras showing a teenager on a forklift playing soccer with a lamed cattle they need to do some time , see what animals feel when their caged
 

Sunnysideup

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ditto ssup nothing bothers me more than seeing those hidden cameras showing a teenager on a forklift playing soccer with a lamed cattle they need to do some time , see what animals feel when their caged
Yeah man, I am with you!!!! I really don't know how that slaughter house got a way with that. I know at ours there is all kinds of federal govt officials running around at all times...Hell, we even have to keep a vet on the premises 24 hours a day. We are very heavily federally regulated....
 

Sunnysideup

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that's got to be cheaper than the lawsuits those fly by night opps payoff
I am sure, and, I am glad to say that we have never had a lawsuit...well one to speak of anyway...We kill a 100 cattle a day, 6 days a week, without any issues...We have been doing this for 140 years now...handed down through the generations. I am also a BIG animal lover, in a major way, and, I can honestly say it is not inhumane the way we do it.:peace:
 

robert 14617

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I bet you've eaten some really good steaks in your lifetime, Sunny. I love a fat porterhouse myself. Mmmm, mmmm, good.
picked up a porterhouse this afternoon for my wife and i almost two lbs !!! she likes the fillet and i work over the rest .

ssup congrats on your familys opps keep it above board and every one wins
 

Sunnysideup

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I bet you've eaten some really good steaks in your lifetime, Sunny. I love a fat porterhouse myself. Mmmm, mmmm, good.
I really have been spoiled with good meat. I cannot buy from anywhere down here. I have my Dad ship it to me, I am ruined! My favorite is NY Strip, and Rib Eye....Yum, I am hungry now.
 

misshestermoffitt

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Rib eye is hubby's favorite, and I always go for the filet side of the porterhouse first myself. I suppose store meat would suck when you're used to the good stuff.
 

robert 14617

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its always hard to lo0ok into the case at the store after getting some choice from the butcher ...our heb plus store put dry aged choice on sale we grilled two rib eyes OMG
 

diemdepyro

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Not so much what peta does. It is what they would like to impose on us.
You think of those beautiful birds, the unique animals that have evolved flawlessly to withstand the harsh environments on the third planet....you have got to stand in awe of the greatness of your superior being.

We all need to have a lesser detrimental impact on the planet what we can do in a generation to a species is tragic and spiciest.

Remember all the crime against nature that we all commit.
Remember mankind's inhumanity to tasty critters.

I myself have been craving a Dodo bird stuffed with a Moa stuffed with a Mariana Mallard. Because of a gluttonous few generations I will never enjoy domoard with Snail Darter salad.

I have to log out now I am planning digging my granny up and slapping the blue outta her hair....

I digress...
 

DontKnowBeans

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:lol: Dude, that's just weird.


its always hard to lo0ok into the case at the store after getting some choice from the butcher ...our heb plus store put dry aged choice on sale we grilled two rib eyes OMG
Rib eye is my favourite cut :mrgreen:


I think a lot of the issues animal rights activists have are because they're so far removed from food preparation when it comes to animals. I lived on an acreage when I was a kid. We had some chickens and we saw what went on at the local farms. Many people who live in urban areas have only seen prepackaged meat in their grocery store and are alarmed at even the most humane slaughtering of livestock.
 

CrackerJax

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One of the true problems of eating meat is NOT the act of consumption. It is the VOLUME by which we ingest it. Especially western culture. It is this voluminous demand which creates situations of abuse. It's hard to give a condemned animal the respect and humane treatment, when the schedule is so tilted upward. We as a people need to make that porterhouse last three meals instead of one. We eat meat in far too large of portions. I know I used to.......:peace:


out. :blsmoke:
 
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