Pest

rob333 said:

pretty much take not of what @drsaltzman and @Oregon Grower humidity outdoors would not be a issue but cold temps are another issue causes spastic leaves is hard water i have had them spin out also split peace

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brown spots and so on

I think it might be the sudden change in the weather they were nice when we had sunny weather im in southern california so humidity isnt a problem and its usually nice and sunny around this time but lately we been having days when its hot and sunny around 70-90 and then the next day the temp drops to 40-60 im gonna try and flush them out i know thats helped me in the past and ill treat for pest later if i see more damage on the leafs or i start to see damage on the stocks which i havent seen any ive had problems with caterpillars in the past so i know what to look for haha