Perpetually Sick Vanilla Frosting

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StevefromNY

Active Member
I have a strain (Vanilla Frosting) in my grow tents that always looks terrible and I can't figure out why. I have several other strains in the tent with the VF that look perfectly happy.

Most of the newer leaves on the Vanilla Frosting plants taco/canoe up and burn seemingly regardless of the conditions they're under. In the attached photos, if the plant looks healthy, it's not Vanilla Frosting.

I'm going to have to compost the VFs if I can't figure out how to cure them. Do I have mites or a fungus or a virus or something? I've treated twice with Spinosad/Insecticidal Soap mix without any discernible effect. Can anyone see what the issue is?

Thanks to everyone who takes a look!

Conditions:
Tent - 5x5
Light - 2x HLG 550 turned down to 70%
Light Height - 2.5 feet
Leaf temps - 72-76
Air temp (day) - 79-85
Air temp (night) - ~75
Humidity - ~60-65%
CO2 - ~900 ppm
Water - 5.85 pH & 1.2 EC (I tried feeding at less than 1.0 for a few weeks recently without any change)
Coco Coir in 5 gallon fabric pots



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GreenhouseGreen

GreenhouseGreen

Well-Known Member
I also run VF and found it to be way more sensitive to P, K, and heat than the other strains in the same conditions. I had to start feeding the VF half the bloom nutes as the others.

I'm not sure I can help with that plant but I figured it's worth sharing.
 
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Treesomewanted77

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StevefromNY said:
I have a strain (Vanilla Frosting) in my grow tents that always looks terrible and I can't figure out why. I have several other strains in the tent with the VF that look perfectly happy.

Most of the newer leaves on the Vanilla Frosting plants taco/canoe up and burn seemingly regardless of the conditions they're under. In the attached photos, if the plant looks healthy, it's not Vanilla Frosting.

I'm going to have to compost the VFs if I can't figure out how to cure them. Do I have mites or a fungus or a virus or something? I've treated twice with Spinosad/Insecticidal Soap mix without any discernible effect. Can anyone see what the issue is?

Thanks to everyone who takes a look!

Conditions:
Tent - 5x5
Light - 2x HLG 550 turned down to 70%
Light Height - 2.5 feet
Leaf temps - 72-76
Air temp (day) - 79-85
Air temp (night) - ~75
Humidity - ~60-65%
CO2 - ~900 ppm
Water - 5.85 pH & 1.2 EC (I tried feeding at less than 1.0 for a few weeks recently without any change)
Coco Coir in 5 gallon fabric pots



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I had a critical mass do this in my last flood and drain system and now doing a clone of the CM in coco perlite and a OG Gelato in same mix and the Gelato is doing it this time and the only thing that comes into play in my case is the light that is above the OG is the light I had over the CM last run so I think it’s light too intense for that strain maybe? I’m not really sure what the cause is but that is my best guess and you have 2 HLG550’s at 70% in a 5x5 that’s a lot of light but better to have more than is needed and not use it all than not have enough
 
RickyLaFleur

RickyLaFleur

Member
I have had humbodt vanilla frosting and have had issues. Are you running Humboldt, Anesia or a different breeder? I have gotten one good pheno that smelled like vanilla bean ice cream and tasting like sweet cream but only once and I didnt get to keep her. When it goes right, its amazing but occasionally I get meat and iron terps on a mutated frame and its total garbage.
 
FluffsTravels

FluffsTravels

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RickyLaFleur said:
I have had humbodt vanilla frosting and have had issues. Are you running Humboldt, Anesia or a different breeder? I have gotten one good pheno that smelled like vanilla bean ice cream and tasting like sweet cream but only once and I didnt get to keep her. When it goes right, its amazing but occasionally I get meat and iron terps on a mutated frame and its total garbage.
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HpLVD?
 
RickyLaFleur

RickyLaFleur

Member
FluffsTravels said:
HpLVD?
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I doubt it I run from seed only and have never had any clones in my garden. From what I understand thats mainly from clones but if it is transmissable by seed then that is crappy news lol. It doesn't appear to be HpLVD because I have never had trichome production issues, its weird that the little mutated plants actually put on the most trichs but the terps are always unpleasant. I find it to be an F1 and F2 issue more than anything. When I run IBL'S or even F4's and above and don't really run into that problem but it really sucks because i had to run alot of F1's to realize, "Hey man, maybe stabilized strains will give you consistent results" Duh, I know, common sense right but it didn't click for awhile. Learned alot in the process though and thats really what its all about. Nobody just waltzes into this doing everything perfect we all have to earn our way.
 
FluffsTravels

FluffsTravels

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Yup, yup. You seem to get it. Probably not HpLVD, but they do believe it can be transmissible to seeds. All the information is so new, and changing. I believe I'm dealing with it now, but I'll know more with test results in the next week or so. I just recently picked up VF clones from a reputable clone business. Assuming I have the time, I'll post pics and such in the HSC thread. Good luck.
 
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