green_machine_two9er
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I prefer pumice stone.
Perlite as a crutch
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ISK
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I grow hempy style, typically in 2L pop bottles..... I always washed my perlite to prevent that sort of sludge from forming in the bottom of the container.
I'm surprized to read how many folks don't wash their perlite....maybe I'm wasting time & effort...not sure now
When I transplant I loosen my roots on the edge a bit and then I shovel the mixture around them and lightly press mix and plant in. About a decade ago when I first started using Jiffy Pellets I thought I'd try up potting to the Jiffy pint pots. I loved Jiffy Pellets that much and still do unfortunately I wasn't happy with root penetration through the pots.
My first thought is I wouldn't want to artificially introduce even a light compaction barrier between the two substrates. I'll be the first to admit I've never looked at this scientifically (ie control group and same clones in a side by side which is my usual way of testing) and how I found I didn't get as rapid pass through the Jiffy pots as my usual way.
It would be nice because using this method I wouldn't have to glove up or spend the next hour digging mix out from under my fingernails
I'm a fussy female. Thank you!
Dank Bongula
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That shit looks like another world haha...just got through a mean heat wave where I'm at.
High of 108 today is a bit of relief
jondamon
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I’ve grown a few autos. None of them ever minded being transplanted lol.
granted I haven’t specifically set aside time to work with autos more so a “let’s throw this in the room while others are vegging” kind of scenario lol.
Thanks Jon! That is exactly what I wondered. If it were newbies simply having a you can't do that moment. Then I got to thinking well there are Ruderalis genetics, could have different husbandry issues? Theoretically it was possible.
Worse you can't really clone autos. I know this because one of the strains I came across, that was good, turned out to carry Ruderalis. So I did some playing with it trying to clone it. It cloned like a champ but had the same lifespan of its' clone source. I often wondered if its' lifespan was directed by telomeres LOL this would have been fun to do in school but humans are much easier to work on (less diversity).
Hi, I'm in the Mojave Desert. We are going to be a tad warm here until October or so LOL! Although, like you, the next few days are supposed to be cooler
cooler is a relative term.
PJ Diaz
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I dunno, it kinda seems to me that a paper written by "The Perlite Institute" is going to be a bit biased towards perlite. They suggest vermiculite, but don't address the fact that vermiculite compresses very easily, thereby eliminating much of it's air porosity. I think you already get a lot of air in coco, and the rice hulls or perlite really just help with drainage.
OldMedUser
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When I transplant I cut the bottom half inch or more off the bottom of the rootball to get rid of all the long roots. Like topping a plant it caused side-branching and sends out thousands of fine roots. I do it to the little starter ones in only a couple oz of promix. If wound around the side the sides get a shave as well. The wife is always looking for the good serrated bread knife but I got it stashed in the grow room.When I transplant I loosen my roots on the edge a bit and then I shovel the mixture around them and lightly press mix and plant in. About a decade ago when I first started using Jiffy Pellets I thought I'd try up potting to the Jiffy pint pots. I loved Jiffy Pellets that much and still do unfortunately I wasn't happy with root penetration through the pots.
My first thought is I wouldn't want to artificially introduce even a light compaction barrier between the two substrates. I'll be the first to admit I've never looked at this scientifically (ie control group and same clones in a side by side which is my usual way of testing) and how I found I didn't get as rapid pass through the Jiffy pots as my usual way.
It would be nice because using this method I wouldn't have to glove up or spend the next hour digging mix out from under my fingernails
I sprinkle a little DynoMyco in the hole and spray it good before dropping the plant in then soak the pot really good. I never see anything like transplant shock and can find roots poking out the drain holes in a week or less so pruning doesn't seem to slow them down any. Worked fine before I started using the DynoMyco a year or so ago.
bk78
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So they help with your drainage too then?
MICHI-CAN
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An agreeance with many posts here. Autos are safely transplanted if done right. No need to open or slice roots unless they were over watered or rootbound.
And @curious2garden. Have you tried the old pot in a a larger pot trick. Provides a small thermal barrier that actually reduces pot temps. Frugal improvisation is all.
And @curious2garden. Have you tried the old pot in a a larger pot trick. Provides a small thermal barrier that actually reduces pot temps. Frugal improvisation is all.
That's the problem I don't need drainage assistance I need air holes for insulation because my canopy spends several months out of the year over 100. It's why I came out of NFT rails. Xlg Perlite is perfect for that.
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I'll have to try that. I usually pull the roots free then put in my mix and water in with Great White and some Dishwashing liquid as a surfactant. I'll have to try trimming the bottom off next time. It's nice being the female I even wash my nursery pots in my dishwasher, my felt pots in the washing machine etc....When I transplant I cut the bottom half inch or more off the bottom of the rootball to get rid of all the long roots. Like topping a plant it caused side-branching and sends out thousands of fine roots. I do it to the little starter ones in only a couple oz of promix. If wound around the side the sides get a shave as well. The wife is always looking for the good serrated bread knife but I got it stashed in the grow room.
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I sprinkle a little DynoMyco in the hole and spray it good before dropping the plant in then soak the pot really good. I never see anything like transplant shock and can find roots poking out the drain holes in a week or less so pruning doesn't seem to slow them down any. Worked fine before I started using the DynoMyco a year or so ago.
SheeshM
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I haven't even grown autos but growers on another forum I follow say it's not that transplanting is any different, it's just that the window to transplant is limited because autos may start flowering as early as three weeks from seed. The theory is that transplanting while a plant is trying to start flowering may stunt the plant. No idea if that is true.
Thank you! I know that's not true for photoperiods. I've transplanted them during every stage of their existence and never noticed a problem. They get more unwieldy as they get bigger and sticky when flowering, which I hate to do. But none of my transplants have really seemed to mind. That's why the auto thing seemed so odd.
OldMedUser
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What does gender have to do with it? My mom taught us all to keep house and she is still OCD about it even tho blind as a bat now at almost 94. She'll feel around to make sure the corners are properly cleaned.
I toss all my pots etc in the bathtub with some dish soap and a dash of bleach to scrub everything down then store them in clear garbage bags so they are ready to rock when I need them. I have a drain screen to catch all the bits of peat and perlite when I rinse everything off. Don't go ewww 'cause the wife washes shit splattered chicken stuff in the same tub and that's worse. We live on a farm so dirt is our friend.
We have an organic dishwasher. My stepdaughter is in charge of that and if she was an employee I would have fired her a long time ago but she is thorough and a hell of a decent cook.
LOL Do a search on here. You'll see a lot of bitching by the guys about how they aren't allowed to [fill in the blank] because wife. That was a reference to that.What does gender have to do with it? My mom taught us all to keep house and she is still OCD about it even tho blind as a bat now at almost 94. She'll feel around to make sure the corners are properly cleaned.
I toss all my pots etc in the bathtub with some dish soap and a dash of bleach to scrub everything down then store them in clear garbage bags so they are ready to rock when I need them. I have a drain screen to catch all the bits of peat and perlite when I rinse everything off. Don't go ewww 'cause the wife washes shit splattered chicken stuff in the same tub and that's worse. We live on a farm so dirt is our friend.
We have an organic dishwasher. My stepdaughter is in charge of that and if she was an employee I would have fired her a long time ago but she is thorough and a hell of a decent cook.
I'm glad your mom raised you right and I'm jackpot lucky my dad raised me wrong for the time I grew up in. By the time I finished high school I could lay concrete, do my own tuneups (points, plugs and condenser days), brakes, oil and many other things that made a difference in my life. My dad then refused to sponsor me into the union and so I had to go to college (not an english major). LOL
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StonedGardener
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I'm very sorry for that shit. I'm really ashamed of myself for letting f'ing emotions fly over something so trivial.....turned me into another uncontrolled muggle......I'm not like that....which is why I'm so pissed at myself......uncalled for and very regrettable