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Pennsylvania baby shot in head in apparent hunting accident

H.M. Murdoch

H.M. Murdoch

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http://news.yahoo.com/pennsylvania-baby-shot-head-apparent-hunting-accident-194428263.html

A newborn baby was shot in the head by a hunter, by accident. The kid was inside his house, being held by his dad. The stray bullet went into the back of the kid's head, and came out the eye socket.

I like guns. I've been an NRA member in the past. But kids being killed by guns is a huge problem today. Whether by deranged people who walk into schools with assault rifles, or people who accidentally shoot someone.

If the kid dies, should the hunter in this case be charged with some form of murder? I think so.

The kid is still alive, but in bad condition.
 
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ricky6991

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Pretty sure, shuldnt be hunting next to house... feel for kid. Accidents happen, shooter will be charged cause Albiet he was in violation.
 
vostok

vostok

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Naturally its an accident ...if you wanna kill a babe drown it... or even drop it from a height
...but wasting a bullet on a babe is extreme ...
still kids and guns don't mix
...either does drinking and driving
but they still still do it! .........Dah
 
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Glaucoma

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure most places don't allow firing a gun within 1/4 mile of any inhabited structure. Unless, of course, it's a at a purpose built facility.

This is a shame for sure. The worst part IMO is the kid being shot while dad held him. That's pretty brutal.
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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Glaucoma said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure most places don't allow firing a gun within 1/4 mile of any inhabited structure. Unless, of course, it's a at a purpose built facility.

This is a shame for sure. The worst part IMO is the kid being shot while dad held him. That's pretty brutal.
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I can't imagine. That's gotta be awful wondering wtf just happened.
 
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spandy

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Glaucoma said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure most places don't allow firing a gun within 1/4 mile of any inhabited structure. Unless, of course, it's a at a purpose built facility.
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I've never heard of this 1/4 mile rule. When I hunt the lower end of our property, I'm less than 500 feet from my neighbors front door and barn.

If there was a 1/4 mile rule, how many people in the country would be restricted from using a firearm on their own land?
 
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ricky6991

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Do some googling... many many states have different regulations for size before fhooting on prucate property. Many states say shooting across property line in federally illegal also...

Guy was in the wrong an some poor guy had to see his kid shot while holding him. If e had an address we could google map how close all houses were to guy.
 
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Glaucoma

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spandy said:
I've never heard of this 1/4 mile rule. When I hunt the lower end of our property, I'm less than 500 feet from my neighbors front door and barn.

If there was a 1/4 mile rule, how many people in the country would be restricted from using a firearm on their own land?
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According to what I found, Pennsylvania has a 150 yard 'safety zone' for firearms and 50 yards for archery. Landowners may permit hunting within their own 'safety zone'.

Less than 1/10th of a mile doesn't seem very safe to me.
 
H.M. Murdoch

H.M. Murdoch

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I think we may be missing something here (I know I was) regarding where hunters can shoot, and where they can't.

And I shouldn't have missed it, since I was a hunter in my youth and up into my 40's.

A hunter is ALWAYS responsible for what his bullet does, because the hunter is ALWAYS supposed to ensure there is an adequate backstop behind whatever he's shooting at; and that what he's shooting at is not a human. That leaves no excuse whatsoever for accidents.
 
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spandy

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Glaucoma said:
According to what I found, Pennsylvania has a 150 yard 'safety zone' for firearms and 50 yards for archery. Landowners may permit hunting within their own 'safety zone'.

Less than 1/10th of a mile doesn't seem very safe to me.
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How far away would you have to be from those using firearms before you felt "safe?"

Would you require signs, so criminals know not to be firing their weapons near?
 
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Glaucoma

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spandy said:
How far away would you have to be from those using firearms before you felt "safe?"

Would you require signs, so criminals know not to be firing their weapons near?
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I feel pretty safe with a 1/4 mile. Not many hunters out there with a .50 caliber. Most are sitting up in a tree, firing down.

I also live in a city, and it's illegal to fire a weapon inside city limits here.

I would not require signs, no. I expect people who shoot to be aware of and follow the local laws, as a minimum. I thought we were talking about hunters, not criminals?
 
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