Patient Registry Available to Police, Be Careful

Quoted from today Portsmouth Herald......
Cobb is the DHS person in charge of the program

"Cobb said data from identification cards are being placed in a database that will soon be available to law enforcement personnel, so they will have the information in their work. That's a good thing, said York Police Chief Doug Bracy.
"That would negate one of my biggest concerns," he said. "We need to get that information in order to do our job, and identify who is in the registry and who isn't."




Think before registering, do you want your name and information being on a database accessible by the police and other agencies?


I can already see where this is going. Register and have your name placed on the database, surveillance starts, your watched for "abnormal traffic" from your residence, people leaving your home start getting harassed along with you.


This law keeps getting worse,just 1 more reason to stay "underground", keep local $ local, screw the Cali companies here taking our $....don,t support this joke of a system or the out of state tourists trying to dominate the dispensaries throughout the state.

MediMary said:

good post +rep

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Thanks...I also forgot to mention another inportant thing I noticed in the article and i forgot to post the link for the full story ,


Quoted from the story "Unlike in other states with medical marijuana laws, Cobb said the doctor has to show a "bona fide" relationship with the patient. The expectation is that this will eliminate "doctor shopping," she said."

This brings up another interesting problem...I just switched my PCP doctor, partly because my old one was afraid to sign the form, partly because of the care the new doctor gave me during the last few weeks of being diagnosed w/ a brain lesion and brain cyst.
He knows of my use of cannabis and is OK to sign off, but will this now be considered "doctor shopping" because I switched to him over the last few weeks?


If someone has a doctor that doesnt believe in MMJ and goes to a doctor that believe in it will they be denied for "doctor shopping?"
We all know how hard it is to find a doctor will sign off, but now the few that do could be under scrutiny too for giving "too many" recommendations?


Anyways, heres the link to the full story.
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20100725-NEWS-7250336

The little Tin Gods are going to try and stiffle the peoples vote for as long as they can, still the good old boys network but now some good old girls are joining this stalling bullsh*t. Dora Mills has put the word out that teens are going to get weed from the dispensaries (head of Maine CDC), trying to instill fear, just like the gubmint to spread more effing lies to the masses...

Yeah man, I qualify for a card because of my Arachnoid Brain Cyst, but I own a business. I do not want my name and patient info being available to any state agency.....My business gets a DHS inspection every year, I know all to well how much of joke that whole bunch is.

Im staying out of the system as it stands, cant afford to have my MMJ status have an effect on my families income, WTF happened to patient confidentiality? If I qualify, thats all DHS needs to know, and they sure dont have to be sharing that info w/ anyone.

I hope that Maine Vocals gets enough sigs for the full legalization bill they are trying to get going, seems it will be the only way

if you stay within the law you have nothing to fear. This kind of post breeds fear and distrust. There needs to be more education about Medical Marijuana so we can be widely accepted instead of looking over our shoulders every minute of every day. I have 3 patients as well as myself. If we card holders and caregivers/patients stay legal and help each other stay legal we will have NOTHING to worry about.
But its 4:20 so I amnot worrying now anyway.


interesting video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSPP53bQSFc

You aren't even considering the other side of this are you? What if the cops are called out to a legal medical home for a disturbance or some other call? Knowing in advance, they won't haul the guy in or destroy plants and confiscate growing equipments. Sure they can look at a card, but what if patient isn't home? How do they verify? Through the damn database.

If you lucky mother fuckers in medical states just follow the rules and obey the laws, you have nothing to worry about and maybe us poor bastards will get a shot to vote for it in our states soon. I would want the cops to know I was growing and was legal. I don't understand this paranoia if you have a card.

jesus of Cannabis said:

if you stay within the law you have nothing to fear. This kind of post breeds fear and distrust. There needs to be more education about Medical Marijuana so we can be widely accepted instead of looking over our shoulders every minute of every day. I have 3 patients as well as myself. If we card holders and caregivers/patients stay legal and help each other stay legal we will have NOTHING to worry about.
But its 4:20 so I amnot worrying now anyway.


interesting video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSPP53bQSFc

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My post shouldnt incite fear or distrust, it reports the truth....Its full of quotes from the head of DHHS and a local police chief. If what they say scares you, thats on you. If you dont mind your medical information being readily available to people that have no right to it, thats also on you.

The law is NOT what we voted for, I wouldnt have voted for this system, its fees, and lack of open competition for dispensaries if I knew this would be the end result. As far as "nothing to fear", you do realize they have raided LEGAL grows in the state already.

Serapis said:

You aren't even considering the other side of this are you? What if the cops are called out to a legal medical home for a disturbance or some other call? Knowing in advance, they won't haul the guy in or destroy plants and confiscate growing equipments. Sure they can look at a card, but what if patient isn't home? How do they verify? Through the damn database.

If you lucky mother fuckers in medical states just follow the rules and obey the laws, you have nothing to worry about and maybe us poor bastards will get a shot to vote for it in our states soon. I would want the cops to know I was growing and was legal. I don't understand this paranoia if you have a card.

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Again no problem with them having my name on a database for this specifically, not my medical info...that is NOT their business. And yeah im such "a lucky motherfucker", I'll keep my luck in mind when I meet w/ my 2nd neurosurgeon about brain surgery to remove the 12 MM cyst from my fucking brain. Asshole

Serapis said:

You aren't even considering the other side of this are you? What if the cops are called out to a legal medical home for a disturbance or some other call? Knowing in advance, they won't haul the guy in or destroy plants and confiscate growing equipments. Sure they can look at a card, but what if patient isn't home? How do they verify? Through the damn database.

If you lucky mother fuckers in medical states just follow the rules and obey the laws, you have nothing to worry about and maybe us poor bastards will get a shot to vote for it in our states soon. I would want the cops to know I was growing and was legal. I don't understand this paranoia if you have a card.

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true dat.. you dont understand..

Only to make sure ur legit.

Serapis said:

You aren't even considering the other side of this are you? What if the cops are called out to a legal medical home for a disturbance or some other call? Knowing in advance, they won't haul the guy in or destroy plants and confiscate growing equipments. Sure they can look at a card, but what if patient isn't home? How do they verify? Through the damn database...

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True on that, but when we get a new president who happens to decide medical MJ is not legit and swings the law against us...Being on a data base will make it easy to find patients/users.

Dirty Harry said:

True on that, but when we get a new president who happens to decide medical MJ is not legit and swings the law against us...Being on a data base will make it easy to find patients/users.

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Damn straight Harry!!

jesus of Cannabis said:

if you stay within the law you have nothing to fear. This kind of post breeds fear and distrust. There needs to be more education about Medical Marijuana so we can be widely accepted instead of looking over our shoulders every minute of every day. I have 3 patients as well as myself. If we card holders and caregivers/patients stay legal and help each other stay legal we will have NOTHING to worry about.
But its 4:20 so I amnot worrying now anyway.


interesting video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSPP53bQSFc

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Sorry, but history has proven you wrong already. Legal users are not *always* afraid of good cops, but the BAD cops do exist and they're the reason one should really worry. Bad cops exist in every precinct in the states (in Mexico theyre mostly bad) and once THEY have your info, you'd best watch your back... and front. Anyone that doesn't think that bad cops will use that information for thier OWN personal gain are in denial, has happened before and it will happen again.

These guys are going for full legalization. Asking for permission to own your body seems so wrong. It's time we all stood together
and supported peaceful people everywhere. Find out how you can make a difference.


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According to the adopted rules (Section 9, Confidentiality), names of registered patients are not available to law enforcement. The department (HHS) can verify to law enforcement whether a patient showing a card is in fact registered, but that's it.

Being from a place where there are an abundance of bad and disloyal cops looking to harass people rather than to protect them, i can sympathize with anyone wanting to stay underground. The federal government reigns supreme over the states, and as long as marijuana isn't nationally legal, I feel we all have reasonable fear. protect ya neck.

So now that is past the first of the year have all you maniacs given into the Man?

Im a Maine MMJ patient and im not too happy but im all registered, join the people of the maine common sense and help patients keep their rights!

Serapis said:

You aren't even considering the other side of this are you? What if the cops are called out to a legal medical home for a disturbance or some other call? Knowing in advance, they won't haul the guy in or destroy plants and confiscate growing equipments. Sure they can look at a card, but what if patient isn't home? How do they verify? Through the damn database.

If you lucky mother fuckers in medical states just follow the rules and obey the laws, you have nothing to worry about and maybe us poor bastards will get a shot to vote for it in our states soon. I would want the cops to know I was growing and was legal. I don't understand this paranoia if you have a card.

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I agree! Police and other agencies aren't going to watch every single person registered. We're headed into a direction of the feds removing it from a sch 1 drug not setting up the entire united states for a big drug bust.
As long as your following your states guidelines you'll be ok.

hydrotoncleaner said:

I agree! Police and other agencies aren't going to watch every single person registered. We're headed into a direction of the feds removing it from a sch 1 drug not setting up the entire united states for a big drug bust.
As long as your following your states guidelines you'll be ok.

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all in all I agree. I think maine has some great private organizations looking out for patient rights and the more support they have the better. Maine people are known for being very private but other than the state cashing in on the registration fees do we have a reason to start complaining?