Packing them in

Camo Hat · Apr 10, 2015

My plants are growing at a maddeningly slow pace despite packing my little grow-box with lights up the ass.

I've got 4 65W CFL and two Cree 60W LED in reflectors. The LED were added today.

I've attached a shot of the grow-box and an extreme closeup of the top of "Shortie," my best plant.

Nor-Cal Cuttings · Apr 10, 2015

Camo Hat said:
My plants are growing at a maddeningly slow pace despite packing my little grow-box with lights up the ass.

I've got 4 65W CFL and two Cree 60W LED in reflectors. The LED were added today.

I've attached a shot of the grow-box and an extreme closeup of the top of "Shortie," my best plant.

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Lol get more light i use 4 54 watt 6400k bulbs it veg's plants nicely not super fast but steady and even

_MrBelvedere_ · Apr 11, 2015

You really need a taller space for them to grow up into.

cc2012 · Apr 11, 2015

how old are they again Camo? I forget..still only young..give chance..not a big fan them Round reflectors..maybe try moving bulbs around? Side light really only good once they get going imho..also the tight round reflectors..maybe take off,but straight line down middle and open em up, so more like a Hood..idk? Stick with m8..Rome wasn't built in a day...

atb

Camo Hat · Apr 11, 2015

_MrBelvedere_ said:
You really need a taller space for them to grow up into.

Yes. I have a taller space when and if they need it.

Camo Hat · Apr 11, 2015

cc2012 said:
how old are they again Camo? I forget..still only young..give chance..not a big fan them Round reflectors..maybe try moving bulbs around? Side light really only good once they get going imho..also the tight round reflectors..maybe take off,but straight line down middle and open em up, so more like a Hood..idk? Stick with m8..Rome wasn't built in a day...

atb

They are about 42 days old.

Thanks.

Nor-Cal Cuttings · Apr 11, 2015

Camo Hat said:
Yes. I have a taller space when and if they need it.

Something like this is what you need..

_MrBelvedere_ · Apr 11, 2015

Camo Hat said:
They are about 42 days old.

Thanks.

You should transplant them into 50/50 vermiculite / perlite 1 gallon containers, hang your led in the taller space, give them proper ventilation, nutes, temp, humidity and then they will start to grow correctly. At 42 days they should be 3 feet tall. forget all the side lighting.

Camo Hat · Apr 12, 2015

_MrBelvedere_ said:
You should transplant them into 50/50 vermiculite / perlite 1 gallon containers, hang your led in the taller space, give them proper ventilation, nutes, temp, humidity and then they will start to grow correctly. At 42 days they should be 3 feet tall. forget all the side lighting.

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I just added a load of Perlite. I hope\====

_MrBelvedere_ said:
You should transplant them into 50/50 vermiculite / perlite 1 gallon containers, hang your led in the taller space, give them proper ventilation, nutes, temp, humidity and then they will start to grow correctly. At 42 days they should be 3 feet tall. forget all the side lighting.

It may be too late. They may be permanently stunted.

I've done most things right. They simply refuse to grow.

Nor-Cal Cuttings · Apr 12, 2015

Camo Hat said:
104;2=6+/
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I just added a load of Perlite. I hope\====

It may be too late. They may be permanently stunted.

I've done most things right. They simply refuse to grow.

Telling you its the baby lights your running no offense but i used those when i was 16 and realized they wernt cutting it i saved up $100 bought a hydofarm 4 ft 4 bulb t5 lamp and have been using it ever since, i just put new bulbs in it once a year and i got smooth steady growth. one time i left clones in dixie cups for a few weeks i got bizzy didnt have time to transplant lol they were so root bound it wasnt funny but they continued to grow up to a ft and a half in the short time its the lights forsure no doubt in my mind bongsmilie

Camo Hat · Apr 12, 2015

Nor-Cal Cuttings said:
Telling you its the baby lights your running no offense but i used those when i was 16 and realized they wernt cutting it i saved up $100 bought a hydofarm 4 ft 4 bulb t5 lamp and have been using it ever since, i just put new bulbs in it once a year and i got smooth steady growth. one time i left clones in dixie cups for a few weeks i got bizzy didnt have time to transplant lol they were so root bound it wasnt funny but they continued to grow up to a ft and a half in the short time its the lights forsure no doubt in my mind

I'm moving them under a 600W MH today. Fuck this.

Nor-Cal Cuttings · Apr 12, 2015

Camo Hat said:
I'm moving them under a 600W MH today. Fuck this.

You will see growth for sure just make sure u dont put it to close you will b happy :weed:

CC Dobbs · Apr 12, 2015

Camo Hat said:
My plants are growing at a maddeningly slow pace despite packing my little grow-box with lights up the ass.

I've got 4 65W CFL and two Cree 60W LED in reflectors. The LED were added today.

I've attached a shot of the grow-box and an extreme closeup of the top of "Shortie," my best plant.

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Looks like it's about harvest time.

_MrBelvedere_ · Apr 12, 2015

Camo Hat said:
I'm moving them under a 600W MH today. Fuck this.

Once they get bigger take clones and grow them as a workaround to any stunting issues. I thought you had a big led panel, glad you got the 600!

Gquebed · Apr 12, 2015

I had the same problem last grow. They started out well, but stalled for a while.

I dont know, but i suspect it was because of transplanting into a container that was too big. Did some reading and what i found was that when you do that the roots do most of the growing until they bottom out. Then they start to grow more topside. Not sure if i believe that. But...seems like you got your plants in oretty big pots for their size.

The other thing is humidity. Suffer pretty low humidity up here and when plants are young they need that...they tend to grow slow without it...

Camo Hat · Apr 13, 2015

_MrBelvedere_ said:
Once they get bigger take clones and grow them as a workaround to any stunting issues. I thought you had a big led panel, glad you got the 600!

Excellent idea.

THX.

Camo Hat · Apr 13, 2015

Gquebed said:
I had the same problem last grow. They started out well, but stalled for a while.

I dont know, but i suspect it was because of transplanting into a container that was too big. Did some reading and what i found was that when you do that the roots do most of the growing until they bottom out. Then they start to grow more topside. Not sure if i believe that. But...seems like you got your plants in oretty big pots for their size.

The other thing is humidity. Suffer pretty low humidity up here and when plants are young they need that...they tend to grow slow without it...

Good advice. I appreciate all the help I can get.

THX

Nor-Cal Cuttings · Apr 13, 2015

Camo Hat said:
Good advice. I appreciate all the help I can get.

THX

How they look under your 600?

Camo Hat · Apr 13, 2015

Nor-Cal Cuttings said:
How they look under your 600?

It was too cold in my cellar where the 600's were. They looked droopy so I've moved the grow area to an unused shower stall.

Photos later.

Thanks.

70's natureboy · Apr 13, 2015

At 42 days and that small I would chuck them and start over. Cannabis loves T8 flouros if you ask me. I quit using my 400 MH in the veg room and switched to 4 ft shop lights and the girls love them. Those 4 ft shop lights can support plants up to 30" tall. Cannabis hates a cold cellar too unless it's DWC.

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