Overwhelming?

Puffer Fish said:

There is so much wrong with this concept ... but I certainly dig the analogy/angle !!
Has your friend ever been really high ..... past the numbers ?

What makes 'quality of life' ?
How do you define it ?
Do we share it ?

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Well, quote myself: Avoiding stirring the shit up with things like "well I can enjoy my life just as well and its longer"

Now that the shits floating all about!

I would say:
Pleasure for the hedonist, art for the artist, journey for the traveller, love for the romantic, reaching the ideals for the idealist, winning the war for the narcisist, enlightnment for the spiritual...

The above is very mixed, I`m saying this as an artist feeds his brain pleasure from his art causing him to be a hedonist, so does a narcist beating his enemy and so does the romantic fulfilling his love..

And for those who seek no hedonism or ego in their lifes at all comes the life of a monk or yogi. (not my cup of tea for various reasons I list/delete, should be obvious)

An element of uncertainty is floating around with me, its a good thing, only 21 years of age yet and the path continues!!

I guess the quality of my life will ultimately be defined as "Sufficient fucking around in this realm as many ways possible with the body and mind which I so happen to have!"

And thats not necessarily in a hedonistic way, even though it sounds as such. Just in an active way.

Quality of life exists simply when we say it does!

So what do you seek in your quality of life Puffer?

I am battling cancer.
It is more about survival.



See the other angle sir ?
Quality of life is a 'perception'

I am doing fantastic !

It's all overwhelming in a good way righttt noww....

PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1 said:

It's all overwhelming in a good way righttt noww....

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High!

go for quality of life not lenght of life. i had a blast growing up touring and raving and slinging. i have laid countless hits sold countless hits and met countless people. if i died today ild have had a hell of a life. now as i get older i am happy to dose by myself. am content to just hang out with my pit bulls and woman. i dont even care to go out the bar anymore. i dont even like riding my harley with other people. ild much rather dose and hit some back roads at 40mph so my woman can look around and enjoy things. makeing her happy is what makes me happy. my x and y go well beond this earth. quality of life comes from within

Puffer Fish said:

I am battling cancer.
It is more about survival.



See the other angle sir ?
Quality of life is a 'perception'

I am doing fantastic !

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Cancer does not have to be put on the table for me to see any other angles.

I think of life as a game of football by analogy (even though I dislike footy), the aim of the game, or the goal posts which represent survival have been removed with us skinning and eating all our natural enemies with our devilish minds. The result of this is not good, it is no longer a game but a field of confusion and chaos. Here, the perception of "quality of life" has changed from survival to fuck knows what... The players seem to be pissing about and arguing with each other out of confusion while some are creating their own game`s. I do my very best to isolate my goal posts from my hedonist desires and bound my ideals to them... Play the game!! Know your rules!!

I have no doubt you are doing fantastic! I`m sure the cancer is only in your physical part!

However please do treat it the best you can!!

I Understand your explanation.
But realize, that as much as you are focused on your goals .... these are dynamic, evolving ...mutating ... and will change .... as you uncover the secrets of life.
These will change .... as you become enveloped in time and the situation you find yourself IN.

Thus, how can you have a formula with a predetermined/planned destination ... in terms of a certain patch ..... if the variables .... lets call them 'life' are not at state of rest ?
It is nice to plan and focus .... but .... that is a concept .... more than anything.
Stay the course tho !! But pay attention to the journey ...

Puffer Fish said:

I Understand your explanation.
But realize, that as much as you are focused on your goals .... these are dynamic, evolving ...mutating ... and will change .... as you uncover the secrets of life.
These will change .... as you become enveloped in time and the situation you find yourself IN.

Thus, how can you have a formula with a predetermined/planned destination ... in terms of a certain patch ..... if the variables .... lets call them 'life' are not at state of rest ?
It is nice to plan and focus .... but .... that is a concept .... more than anything.
Stay the course tho !! But pay attention to the journey ...

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I am %100 aware of this. There can`t logically be any real goals and most of the definitions I use are undefined alltogether, but its not just me throwing around the false here, its the world around me! That does not justfiy anything, but is rather evidence of complete personal gameplay. This was one of the secrets DMT let me in on. I didn`t like it at a time but it represents a sense of freedom for me now.

Either way, this is my life, my game, my goalposts and my team! "I can only invite into my game and to play my rules, I cannot expect or force." That was what I needed to learn the most, not to really care about the fragility of my goals and definitions, but rather enjoy the game I make for myself.

Simply put, you don`t have to tell me how full of shit my reality is as I know

And that is why you are the BOMB Bro !
In a blue way of thinking !

Puffer Fish said:

And that is why you are the BOMB Bro !
In a blue way of thinking !

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Gotta love geometry

Back to the overwhelming, I know my truths but its in my time to get comfortable with them and be comfortable with intense psychedelic experiments... Its partly that I worry about my mind that I get scared too. Combination of the 2 tells me I could have a bad time... I don`t need a high dose but I know there are many fantastic experiences and pleasures in those realms, thats why I would like te able to access...

OR, is this the fine line between safety and confidence? Or control, in a very subtle control freak manner...?

After reading about a psychedelic research program, the leader concluded that the people having the bad trips were the ones wanting to stay in control... After giving concideration to that, I can see characteristics of a control freak in most peoples psychology...?

Thats some ideas pretty much, I`m interested to see what the pros have to say

And on a side note, after 2 weeks of without its time to light this sucker up!!

Tenner said:

Gotta love geometry

Back to the overwhelming, I know my truths but its in my time to get comfortable with them and be comfortable with intense psychedelic experiments... Its partly that I worry about my mind that I get scared too. Combination of the 2 tells me I could have a bad time... I don`t need a high dose but I know there are many fantastic experiences and pleasures in those realms, thats why I would like te able to access...

OR, is this the fine line between safety and confidence? Or control, in a very subtle control freak manner...?

After reading about a psychedelic research program, the leader concluded that the people having the bad trips were the ones wanting to stay in control... After giving concideration to that, I can see characteristics of a control freak in most peoples psychology...?

Thats some ideas pretty much, I`m interested to see what the pros have to say

And on a side note, after 2 weeks of without its time to light this sucker up!!

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That is actually not geometry ... you miss signs in plain sight and dismiss for obvious when it is not ...
Ego death is a trip ... you got to give up total control .... that comes with training .... as it is a part of THE TRIP !
Certainly a badge ... graduation ... of sort ... in a mysterious way !

As I have mentioned in around kinda way .... U got to let it unfold !
But it is wise to stick to a plan !
(as per your proposition)

Puffer Fish said:

That is actually not geometry ... you miss signs in plain sight and dismiss for obvious when it is not ...
Ego death is a trip ... you got to give up total control .... that comes with training .... as it is a part of THE TRIP !
Certainly a badge ... graduation ... of sort ... in a mysterious way !

As I have mentioned in around kinda way .... U got to let it unfold !
But it is wise to stick to a plan !
(as per your proposition)

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That is the essence. When you manage to yield, release what you believe is your hold on "realty" and return, you gain power over your own life and at times over others.