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Over/ under watering pls help .

russ0r

The russ0r
Correct...it ends up a Kratky hybrid. I'm very aware of how it works. But before roots get there plant still thrives while on wick...which you said was a no no....just wanted to clarify wick with soil actually works very well and great for new growers because it takes the guess work out.
Correct...it ends up a Kratky hybrid. I'm very aware of how it works. But before roots get there plant still thrives while on wick...which you said was a no no....just wanted to clarify wick with soil actually works very well and great for new growers because it takes the guess work out.
Certainly just an opinion from us both, there are 1000 ways to do it. Depending on conditions, some things work, some don't. That story goes forever - but keeping your soil wet leaves you at risk for root rot and that is a fact. A moisture meter takes the guess work out , or a chopstick. There's 1000s of videos on this :)
 

Hollatchaboy

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Certainly just an opinion from us both, there are 1000 ways to do it. Depending on conditions, some things work, some don't. That story goes forever - but keeping your soil wet leaves you at risk for root rot and that is a fact. A moisture meter takes the guess work out , or a chopstick. There's 1000s of videos on this :)
How do you explain a sub irrigated planter then?
 

Jimski

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How do you explain a sub irrigated planter then?
Sips normally have a barrier that stops soil from hitting the water. I use 4 inch drain tile and hydroton. Placed at an angle and leveled it gives you a reservoir for the plant to draw on. Plants drop tap type hydro roots into the water.
 

russ0r

The russ0r
How do you explain a sub irrigated planter then?
What's to explain? Wet soil all the time puts you at risk of root rot. Risk doesn't mean guarantee and conditions and soil as well as other variables all play huge roles. Whatever floats your boat. I grow lots of different plants and marijuana is just root rot prone in wet organic matter - so my opinion is why risk it and if you have problems that's the first thing to look at. Unfortunately if you rot your roots in flower there isn't a lot of opportunities for full recovery- that's why I prefer not to risk it. In most all situations the soil needs a wet and dry cycle for marijuana to thrive
 

Hollatchaboy

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Sips normally have a barrier that stops soil from hitting the water. I use 4 inch drain tile and hydroton. Placed at an angle and leveled it gives you a reservoir for the plant to draw on. Plants drop tap type hydro roots into the water.
Right but the soil is always moist. No dry cycle.
 

Hollatchaboy

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What's to explain? Wet soil all the time puts you at risk of root rot. Risk doesn't mean guarantee and conditions and soil as well as other variables all play huge roles. Whatever floats your boat. I grow lots of different plants and marijuana is just root rot prone in wet organic matter - so my opinion is why risk it and if you have problems that's the first thing to look at. Unfortunately if you rot your roots in flower there isn't a lot of opportunities for full recovery- that's why I prefer not to risk it. In most all situations the soil needs a wet and dry cycle for marijuana to thrive
I use organic soil in my sip. It's constantly moist. Never had a problem. Look at the sip thread. Lots of people doing the same.

I'm not necessarily debating it. I've definitely overwatered container plants, but the sip works.
 

Boatguy

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I use organic soil in my sip. It's constantly moist. Never had a problem. Look at the sip thread. Lots of people doing the same.

I'm not necessarily debating it. I've definitely overwatered container plants, but the sip works.
I do earth boxes for my veggies and have never had a problem. The amount of roots in that stagnant water below the soil is mind blowing considering there is no bubblers or anything else in there.
 

Hollatchaboy

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I do earth boxes for my veggies and have never had a problem. The amount of roots in that stagnant water below the soil is mind blowing considering there is no bubblers or anything else in there.
Agreed, but....... there is an air gap between the bottom of the soil deck, and the surface of res water.

And there is soil in the res, from the 2 wicks, and whatever falls thru the holes in the deck. Hell ive had worms in the res. Some still alive, some dead. I don't use the worms anymore though. I'm not looking to risk that anymore.
 

russ0r

The russ0r
I use organic soil in my sip. It's constantly moist. Never had a problem. Look at the sip thread. Lots of people doing the same.

I'm not necessarily debating it. I've definitely overwatered container plants, but the sip works.
I don't doubt you; just in my experience I have seen more fails with those methods than successes in general - this 'sip' sounds like a new thing (to me). I feel like a dinosaur these days. Back in the day we used to get 10 posts a day regarding overwatered plants
 

Hollatchaboy

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I don't doubt you; just in my experience I have seen more fails with those methods than successes in general - this 'sip' sounds like a new thing (to me). I feel like a dinosaur these days. Back in the day we used to get 10 posts a day regarding overwatered plants
Agreed. Overwatering was and still is an issue for new growers.

There is a thread on here for sub irrigated planters. Maybe you might wanna check it out. It's pretty interesting.
 

russ0r

The russ0r
Agreed. Overwatering was and still is an issue for new growers.

There is a thread on here for sub irrigated planters. Maybe you might wanna check it out. It's pretty interesting.
I did, by technical definition every single plant I water sips. (I set my plants in bowls of water and remove when they are soaked to drain and go back to their home) but not in a system that continues to wick upward. I get the concept of the system, but I'd be terrified to do that indoors.
 

Hollatchaboy

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I did, by technical definition every single plant I water sips. (I set my plants in bowls of water and remove when they are soaked to drain and go back to their home) but not in a system that continues to wick upward. I get the concept of the system, but I'd be terrified to do that indoors.
I get it. Your best grow, is gonna be the one you're most comfortable with. Do your thing man. :bigjoint:
 

GemGrows24

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Certainly just an opinion from us both, there are 1000 ways to do it. Depending on conditions, some things work, some don't. That story goes forever - but keeping your soil wet leaves you at risk for root rot and that is a fact. A moisture meter takes the guess work out , or a chopstick. There's 1000s of videos on this :)
Chopstick?! I must know
 

russ0r

The russ0r
Chopstick?! I must know
Stick a chopstick in your soil to the bottom. Pull it out. If it comes out perfectly clean your soil is dry.if it's wet you will see small bits of soil sticking to it..

If the bottom two Inches of your pot is wet, the bottom two inches will have stuff stuck to it.
 

GemGrows24

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Stick a chopstick in your soil to the bottom. Pull it out. If it comes out perfectly clean your soil is dry.if it's wet you will see small bits of soil sticking to it..

If the bottom two Inches of your pot is wet, the bottom two inches will have stuff stuck to it.
Haha just like baking a cake , gotchya .
 
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