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Looks like calmag issues to me. I get that a lot indoors with my cob lights. Heavy calmag feeding needs. Do you check runoff ph
I don’t check run off, but I should I guess. Have never worried about that in many previous grows and it all worked out okay. Usually start with distilled water for the first couple of weeks of growth then switch to tap water. The plants don’t get too much watering from the hose - I usually fill containers from the tap but that ought not to matter.

I brought in the big guns to help out with this...The Audrey Two is standing silent vigil in a strategic overwatch position...
 

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All she needs is a sniper rifle and look out. I never checked runoff either but in the last year I've started having PH problems with Ocean Forrest and the exact same line of nutes I've been growing with for a long time. I heard some of the Fox Farm soil can fluctuate so I checked runoff and in two exact same strain plants from different bags of Ocean Forrest that I had been growing alongside each other one was around 6.2 and one was down in the 5.7 area and having lockout issues. I had to flush it with 6.8 PH nute solution. Not a full flush but a lot more water than a normal watering to get it up to 6 and it took a good bit to get it up to 6.2 by end of flower. I worry way more about PH going in but I still do check runoff, especially if I see issues. Maybe a mild flush after checking the runoff first to see what PH and PPM or EC is. DC Seeds has Audrey as a pot seed for their logo, she's holding joints it's a pretty sweet design. I saw he just added a bunch of stuff to his swag and I want this coffee mug he's got with the logo.
 

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She’s asking me where the fuck Seymour is, and if Mr Mushnick is in the area.

I went to the local hydroponics store a couple weeks ago and asked for something to add calcium to the feeding regimen, and they sold me the below. I just gave the plants a good shot of this with some reduced strength FF nutrients, and a little Terpinator. Looking at the back of the stuff they sold me, appears it doesn’t have any calcium so back to the store I go. I was looking for Flora Farms Cal/Mag on my first visit and they were out, so hopefully they have some now. While I’m there I’ll pick up a PH kit too...

my brother is visiting from Vermont next week, so I’m getting the girls ready to meet their uncle. He doesn’t partake, but maybe I can convince him to start a grow next year (way too late for that up in the North now). In any event, when I drive up there I can hit three retail dispensaries in MA on the way. there Is one right across the border from VT that is less than an hour from his home so a short road trip is cool too.

that bear photo is awesome - least he coulda done is mow the lawn since the mower was right there...

I’ll checkout DC seed exchange this morning...some morning pics follow.

slainte,

mitch
 

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Plant 4. This one got a pretty healthy defoliation yesterday to clear out damaged fan leaves - gives a pretty good bird’s eye view of the training I forced on it...it is all about symmetry in my world...
 

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FirstCavApache64

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This is gonna be a dense and right angle cola...
Your girls are looking really good, it's nice to see the side angle shots. I had a hard time judging bud size from the top angle. Old eyes and an ancient cheap tablet. My Blue Dream is shooting up so fast I have had to jerry rig a fence up on my deck even though I'm out in the middle of nowhere. Just to meet the letter of the law I wanted to be absolutely sure you can't see the plants from the tiny hole in the trees 700 yards away from the road, LOL. Never let it be said this grow isn't meeting with the VA code. It's so overkill it isn't funny but I figured I would just make sure I checked all the boxes until it all becomes second nature to the sheriff's and neighbors around these parts. The smell of the three of them is going to be strong enough to make everyone on the mountain wonder who's growing it but I'm 99 percent sure these aren't the only plants being grown up in my neck of the woods. Come fall I bet it's going to get pretty stinky around here.
 

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I’ll throw a yardstick in the next batch for scale. I’m pretty sure the stretch is over, so now the buds will be thickening up. The smell is building, but I have them screened from the neighbors with citronella, garlic, basil, rosemary and other non-aromatic plants. I’m sure the hills out there in western VA are gonna be danky dank come harvest time.

look forward to pics of yr Blue Dream - I think next year I’ll grow 3 horizontally and see what kinda bonsai I can do on a vertical plant. yield is really a secondary consideration for me - I already have enuff curing to last me a long time - so this is a creative outlet.

The Gelato I have curing in the C Vault is ripening well. The smell is distinctive and I’ve sampled some of it; it it smooth and effective. According the the website where I purchased it the THC should be over 20%. I took yr advice and have it trimmed down to thumb size nuggets; I think getting all the stalks outta the container helped reduce the cut grass smell...
 

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Yeah it's up to my wife's chin which we figured out is five feet. Not very full since we got such a late start but the vertical growth since going outside has been amazing. The Bag of Oranges stem rub smell is incredible, like a freshly scraped orange peel on one with some skunk undertones from the shorter more indica dominant one. Stem rub on that one is pure orange zest. I took some of the huge water leaves on the indica dominant one tonight because none of the bottom shoots are getting out like the other plant. The top leaves looked like a beach sun umbrella. Just got a couple of the interior few. I'll snap some pics tomorrow in the sun if we get any. Just saw the forecast called for mostly clouds and rain throughout the day.
 

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Yeah it's up to my wife's chin which we figured out is five feet. Not very full since we got such a late start but the vertical growth since going outside has been amazing. The Bag of Oranges stem rub smell is incredible, like a freshly scraped orange peel on one with some skunk undertones from the shorter more indica dominant one. Stem rub on that one is pure orange zest. I took some of the huge water leaves on the indica dominant one tonight because none of the bottom shoots are getting out like the other plant. The top leaves looked like a beach sun umbrella. Just got a couple of the interior few. I'll snap some pics tomorrow in the sun if we get any. Just saw the forecast called for mostly clouds and rain throughout the day.
I have trouble discerning smells sometimes...the stuff i have growing outside smells like diesel fuel to me, and the gelato I have curing is closing in on that too. I gave the plants a shot of Mammoth P during a lull in today’s rain; figured the soil was saturated, and it was gonna rain again soon, so it’d get absorbed pretty quickly. I’ll hit them with a good dose of bone meal tomorrow morning to fix a calcium deficiency - not too worried about that since it’s only affecting older/larger fan leaves, and everything around the buds is green as could be. losing larger leaves is kinda the norm I guess as the plant sends energy to the flowers. Hope you get tons of sun tomorrow, should be an explosive day!
 

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Just got done with some training to open up the more indica dominant Bag of Oranges and some more support work with the other two. Looks like a good day for growth. I've got some nice secondary growth shooting up which makes me think I might be starting stretch on Blue Dream.

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I'm debating grabbing some clones since they just started flower so when this grow is harvested I'll have an indoor plant to play with for the winter. Just enough to get one to root. That would still leave me under the 4 plant limit while I have the three outside. Then I could veg it for a long time since I'd have the harvest from this outdoor grow. This Blue Dream indoors in a scrog could be a monster I think if you vegged it for a bit in a decent sized pot.
 
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Grab the clones, good genes are a treasure. I found some square tomato cages im gonna use for a vertically trained grow. I should be able to zip tie them to a milk crate and get the main stalk running up one side, and bend some branches to the other sides. The growing season left prolly not long enuff for a spiral auto, that’ll wait until next year...



dosed mine with bone meal this AM and waiting for the sun here...my brother arrives in a couple hours so the local breweries put on a second shift yesterday. Couple bail-bondsmen dropped off bizness cards yesterday too. Always pays to be prepared...
 

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There's ten weeks left until first frost date exactly for my zone. It would be a tough squeeze to finish out an auto but you could do it. There just isn't enough peak sunlight for me to justify an outdoor grow vs an indoor grow with an auto at this time of year. 20 hours of time under a COB vs 13 hours of weak winter light and colder wetter weather. I might try an auto outdoors next year but I will probably save those for running indoors when the outdoor season is shut down. Run four different strains each cycle just for variety and then run outdoors for yield to share with some disabled veterans like this year. Since the law said we can donate up to an ounce per person I figured I could grow some for guys I know with PTSD that have medical cards and help them out.
 

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Grab the clones, good genes are a treasure. I found some square tomato cages im gonna use for a vertically trained grow. I should be able to zip tie them to a milk crate and get the main stalk running up one side, and bend some branches to the other sides. The growing season left prolly not long enuff for a spiral auto, that’ll wait until next year...

dosed mine with bone meal this AM and waiting for the sun here...my brother arrives in a couple hours so the local breweries put on a second shift yesterday. Couple bail-bondsmen dropped off bizness cards yesterday too. Always pays to be prepared...
 

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I've had two days of pop up thunderstorms that caught me off guard and the plants got hammered bad each time. They took it in stride, no damage. I need to get a pop up shelter or some kind of better solution than my tarp lean to. Haven't read about you two in the paper so I'm assuming that's good news.
 
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