Outdoor Guerilla 2014

MedicatedGrow said:

Yea I forgot that but https://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/ or something like that is a great site for seeds, read the descriptions but if you do plan on going with outdoors there are a lot of strains that are VERY resistant to mould, mildew, bugs, and diesese. I believe some of the best genetics come from Dinafem, Barneys Farm, DNA/Genetics, Delicouse seeds, Serious seeds, and GDP Orignals in my opinion at least. The type of plants that were built for resistence would be perfect for your outdoor op considering you never know if you could get bugs or mold. I grew one of those resistant plants and I dont know for sure if its true but I had humidity in my area that hit 90% for about a week or two and those plants never got mold or powdery mildew or anything bad.

If you go with the indoor you said you have a 600watt and not pulling 4oz? Do you have the ability to continue growing using the 600watt or are you only able to grow outside now? I think you could easily get up to 4-8ozs with one plant with a 600watt under optimal conditions. Instead of making a post, look for very expereienced guerilla grower on this site (Think I've seen a few journals) and ask them for advice since they would have the best. I basically kinda did the same thing, looked for people that grew the strains I was currently germinating and asked them on their thoughts / advice and they helped me a lot.

I really do hope you go with indoor and just using your 600watt if you even do a small tent grow you can keep it under $500 and make $1000 back easy off one plant (Assuming your selling in city area) I'd buy like a cheap $150 tent that is big enough for 4 3gal pots and grow 4 nice sized plants I suggest 4 topping as well to increase your yield by 4 on each plant, might be a tight grow but you'll get your moneys worth.

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I pull more than 4ozs with a 6. My reply was I don't get close to a pound. I usually pull like 12oz off each 600. Anyway, right now it is best for me to do this outdoors I feel. If I start indoors my bank roll will run out when I get my first electricity bill. I know I can pull a good ammount off each plant if I do this outdoor thing like I want. I would gain far more product for the investment, and would have an opportunity to marry my girl. I want to make enough to buy a ring, have a wedding, go on a honeymoon. If I go indoors I would be paying off the initial investment for a long time because I would have to start so small. After Rent/deposit/setup/elecricity/transportation to and from. My growhouse would take alot longer than 4 months to pull off 50 elbows which is my goal right now anyway. On top of that I look forward to spending the time in the wilderness. I am an outdoorsy type. I just read Walden. I think I might stay a month or two out there the more I think about it. Anyway this is def going to be an outdoor crop this year.

J

sounds interesting be safe man and the goal sounds steep. I know investment will be rough but you should be making way more than you spend on the crop. The only thing I think you would have a problem with is selling all that product at once to pay off the investment asap. That's how I think of it, but I guess it depends on how expensive things are. In the city rent is like $400-500 for 2 bedrooms here, electric bill isn't much if you aren't living in the place like a normal person WHILE growing there too. You don't need fridge plugged in washer all the heavy electric shit ya know. I think its worth the time to add it all up at least like go look for places to rent tally up the supplies cost and everything before even buying anything then do the math with how many plants you'll be growing and estimated only 7ozs off each plant (That way you know what is the least amount you'll gain) and see how it all adds up.

Outdoor will be cheaper of course but so much risk, but you said you will be sleeping out there so maybe not too much risk since you'll be able to check for pests and shit. Just a little risky being out there heli flyover might see the crop than a person and investigate and all that for nothing which is even more money lost.

P.s My buddys might be lucky but they found electric bill free apartments in the city too which increased their profits by some. They only pay for Rent, no water, no electricity, nothing. Perfect place for them, Northeast all the way!

MedicatedGrow said:

sounds interesting be safe man and the goal sounds steep. I know investment will be rough but you should be making way more than you spend on the crop. The only thing I think you would have a problem with is selling all that product at once to pay off the investment asap. That's how I think of it, but I guess it depends on how expensive things are. In the city rent is like $400-500 for 2 bedrooms here, electric bill isn't much if you aren't living in the place like a normal person WHILE growing there too. You don't need fridge plugged in washer all the heavy electric shit ya know. I think its worth the time to add it all up at least like go look for places to rent tally up the supplies cost and everything before even buying anything then do the math with how many plants you'll be growing and estimated only 7ozs off each plant (That way you know what is the least amount you'll gain) and see how it all adds up.

Outdoor will be cheaper of course but so much risk, but you said you will be sleeping out there so maybe not too much risk since you'll be able to check for pests and shit. Just a little risky being out there heli flyover might see the crop than a person and investigate and all that for nothing which is even more money lost.

P.s My buddys might be lucky but they found electric bill free apartments in the city too which increased their profits by some. They only pay for Rent, no water, no electricity, nothing. Perfect place for them, Northeast all the way!

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I was always suspect of electric included places... I have had a landlord shut me down before, and if anyone is gonna raise eyebrows its gonna be the guy shelling out 600$ a month like what the fuck is going on in there. Anyway, back to the guerilla operation. I know for a fact that all throughout cali and colorado, there are mexican maffia grows where the dudes live there, but these idiots get caught because they leave all their trash lying around, they do nothing to cover their tracks, shoot guns light fires etc. I know its the woods, but I would be operating in full cognito. I am even considering a gilly suit and night vision goggles. I am not afraid of selling the bud fast. If I sit on it for a year and sell it 50% street value for heady crop, and slowly raise my price as supply runs low I think I could net the cash for a wedding excursion. Thanks for your posts. I would say I am much more experienced indoors, which is something that would work towards my favor going that route. If I even pull just a few grand out of my summer grow I would turn around and invest it all into an indoor spot right away just so I could start making my money work for me. When I go back indoors I will do it right this time too, kind of learn from my many mistakes along the way. For instance I would go off grid with gas generators, solar panels, water wheels, and the normal use of electricy for a house. I actually really look forward to experimenting with all those. To make that happen though it would be nice to have one electric bill free summer and 0 cost maintenance grow.

Right now, given the locations I have scouted and research I have done on strains, my biggest worry is a cop finding it via fly over. Its the one thing that I can't get past. So I am getting feminized straight indicas fast finishers high yielders. I am going to do some auto flowers so I can get an earlyu crop in too. From their I am buying so miniature hops plants I am going to grow indoors in my apartment till about halfway through my season when the soil is super ripe I am going to plant them amongst my plants and fertilze the fuck out of them. I will train the hops vines to kind of entangle, but not strangle my plants Also, I plan on tying the plants down and topping them to keep them low fat bushes in good sunlight. then I will pin some silk flowers to the ganja buds when they start to come in. Hopefully the cops fly over that crazy looking canopy and are like what the fuck are we looking at?

What do you think?

J

every area is different, and strategies need to match the conditions
in the northeast, weather will be the biggest wild card, you mentioned doing the veg in a greenhouse
that could work with the right genetics, but it's the flower season which will make/break
get crappy conditions in september, then you're screwed, mold and not so good quality
now doing a flower in a greenhouse, that's probably going to be top notch quality
probably stick out like a sore thumb, but good quality, more of a fantasy of mine from years ago, never did try it

growone said:

every area is different, and strategies need to match the conditions
in the northeast, weather will be the biggest wild card, you mentioned doing the veg in a greenhouse
that could work with the right genetics, but it's the flower season which will make/break
get crappy conditions in september, then you're screwed, mold and not so good quality
now doing a flower in a greenhouse, that's probably going to be top notch quality
probably stick out like a sore thumb, but good quality, more of a fantasy of mine from years ago, never did try it

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I wish I could pull something like that off but I think I am only going to use the greenhouse for the plants in the very beginning. My plan grows and evolves everyday, but I don't think it is safe to pull off a flower in a green house. I have been researching and finding results of 5+Elbows per plant. I wanna grow those kind of plants and the greenhouse to hold them would be way too big. I will pull this or something of the sort off this summer. I know it and have faith in myself to do it. Crappy weather would ruin my girls, but if I know its going to be raining alot I will construct tarps to keep the rain off the nugs. I will use the greenhouse material just because it is kind of see through. If it is between losing my entire crop for the summer I will find a way to solve each and every problem as they arise. I know that growing period is a gamble, growing outdoors a bigger one. I look at it like poker. Outdoor guerilla is a game, a really fucking tough one. And though the odds are stacked against you when you beat the house you win all the green. So I just want to do everything I can to better my chances for success. I really believe I can pull this off and get the weight I want.

that's pretty well said, it's good to understand that odds aren't great
your strategy is reasonable, big veg for big plants, and you don't need many big plants to get big weight
the genetics are not going to be easy, the right genetics will give you what you want in most weather outcomes
but that's not most genetics, many will mold in bad weather, some won't

i dont know man, you sound pretty close to insane. you actually think your going to build solar panel greenhouses, plant decidios trees for camo, automatic watering system, growing 1lb plants with no mold, sitting in a tree house in the pouring rain in october dry trimming 50 lbs of ganja, all the while running around hiding from your wife like a gay married guy in the closet with her wondering why you cant spend any of the summer weekends with her and then as soon as you get home you jump in the shower everytime to wash the bugs and soil from your hair with your ripped up jeans and dirty ass fingernails and your shoes are stained from water runoff. nothing weird going on here though. you need to make everything much more simple. your inexperience just really shines through but i do wish you the best of luck and hopefully i am wrong and you are a master grower. if so i do apoligize for coming off rude, just trying to give kind of a wake up call maybe. we have all had our cash cropping blunders though

oh and i forgot the last step of your plan you wrote

• "When the plants are dry I will transfer them to their jars, and take them out of the woods."
  
  i dont think 50lbs of weed all in heavy glass jars is the easiest thing to carry out of the bush.​
  
  
  
  

So I am going to soon be trying outdoor growing in Colorado and i'm a first time grower any tips???????

kevinnatalya said:

i dont know man, you sound pretty close to insane. you actually think your going to build solar panel greenhouses, plant decidios trees for camo, automatic watering system, growing 1lb plants with no mold, sitting in a tree house in the pouring rain in october dry trimming 50 lbs of ganja, all the while running around hiding from your wife like a gay married guy in the closet with her wondering why you cant spend any of the summer weekends with her and then as soon as you get home you jump in the shower everytime to wash the bugs and soil from your hair with your ripped up jeans and dirty ass fingernails and your shoes are stained from water runoff. nothing weird going on here though. you need to make everything much more simple. your inexperience just really shines through but i do wish you the best of luck and hopefully i am wrong and you are a master grower. if so i do apoligize for coming off rude, just trying to give kind of a wake up call maybe. we have all had our cash cropping blunders though

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wonder what ever happen to this guy? this was a funny fkn post but everthing u posted was so true..old thread i know but a good laugh out this post