outdoor 2021

Funkentelechy

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That's the goal, reduce, reuse, recycle as much as possible. If I do purchase its always organically as possible and in bulk if possible. I've been very intrigued by the idea of using homemade composted manure but I'm not sure if I want chickens or if there are alternatives to chicken as I own a dog who I love to death but just don't trust around anything other than humans and dogs. As for the comfrey, I was thinking of growing a patch of that and some alfalfa out this year. Have you grown either outside? I love your insight on the subject if possible. I've found plenty of kooky new grow techniques I plan on utilizing for my grows. I don't know if you've seen a topsy turvy tomato grower but i plan on running 2 plants in a little baby tent this year as a challenge from a friend so im excited to start that. Anything new you looking forward to popping?
Yeah, dogs around chickens can get complicated, one day, when I first got chickens I was in my house washing dishes and one of my dogs ran in from outside and dropped a dead chicken at my feet. It sucked my dog was so happy, he thought he had done something good, he found a bird in the yard, killed it, and brought it to me.
I had to do some training with him, mostly sitting with him in the yard and explaining to him that these are my birds, not his, and for a while whenever he even looked at them I would have to remind him that they were my birds. Now I trust him 100%, he helps protect them for me, he roams around with the birds in the yard all day(I let them free-range during the day), and he would never hurt them.
The way I was taught to train them as a kid, and the method that is still common where I live is to tie the dead chicken around their necks until the chicken literally rots off of the rope that is tied to the dog's neck. After that, the dog usually doesn't want anything to do with chickens. But that's gross, and most importantly not necessary. And, if you built a fenced-in enclosed chicken run you wouldn't have to bother with any of that.

Composted manure and chicken manure, in particular, is high in sulphur, in addition to a ton of other nutrients of course. Sulphur is responsible for facilitating terp production. There are other natural sources of sulphur that you can buy and add to your soil, but they are mined in big pit mines and that's not what I would consider sustainable gardening.

Also, many amendments that are used for remineralization that are sourced through mining contain a lot of heavy metals like, lead, arsenic, and cadmium. Cadmium can be buffered with zinc to a certain extent, but I would rather not have to buffer anything. I prefer using compost and manure to remineralize my soil, the minerals come in a much more balanced form. Mother nature has been remineralizing the soil long before we existed, nobody ever had to apply CalMag to the redwoods.

I have never grown alfalfa(I buy organic pellets by the 50-pound bag), but I do grow comfrey outside. I have a big patch downhill from my compost piles. Comfrey has super long roots and it can pull nutrients up from the subsoil, some consider it a bioaccumulator for its ability to do this. My theory for growing comfrey below my compost piles is that hopefully, the comfrey can recover some of the nutrients that get leached into the soil when it rains on the piles. There are two main types of comfrey, I grow the Russian bocking comfrey.

There was a thread started on here about growing with a topsy turvy https://www.rollitup.org/t/anyone-grow-cannabis-upside-down.175002/

I am going to try growing some autos this year for the first time. A super cool and generous member here gifted me some seeds and I'm excited to try them out. Where I live the law only restricts the number of mature/budding plants that you have at a given time, so I'm going to try to grow autos and photoperiod plants outside this year. The theory being that the photos will finish long before my regular photoperiod plants become mature, thus staying within legal limits and getting two harvests outdoor. I'll post results.

As for photo plants I'm planning on growing some AK Bean Brains Skunk Quabbage bx4 and Purple Hindu Kush as well as some Bodhi OM4.
How about you? I watched your unboxing video on Youtube, very cool man, I enjoyed it.
 

Tht_Blk_Guy27

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Yeah, dogs around chickens can get complicated, one day, when I first got chickens I was in my house washing dishes and one of my dogs ran in from outside and dropped a dead chicken at my feet. It sucked my dog was so happy, he thought he had done something good, he found a bird in the yard, killed it, and brought it to me.
I had to do some training with him, mostly sitting with him in the yard and explaining to him that these are my birds, not his, and for a while whenever he even looked at them I would have to remind him that they were my birds. Now I trust him 100%, he helps protect them for me, he roams around with the birds in the yard all day(I let them free-range during the day), and he would never hurt them.
The way I was taught to train them as a kid, and the method that is still common where I live is to tie the dead chicken around their necks until the chicken literally rots off of the rope that is tied to the dog's neck. After that, the dog usually doesn't want anything to do with chickens. But that's gross, and most importantly not necessary. And, if you built a fenced-in enclosed chicken run you wouldn't have to bother with any of that.

Composted manure and chicken manure, in particular, is high in sulphur, in addition to a ton of other nutrients of course. Sulphur is responsible for facilitating terp production. There are other natural sources of sulphur that you can buy and add to your soil, but they are mined in big pit mines and that's not what I would consider sustainable gardening.

Also, many amendments that are used for remineralization that are sourced through mining contain a lot of heavy metals like, lead, arsenic, and cadmium. Cadmium can be buffered with zinc to a certain extent, but I would rather not have to buffer anything. I prefer using compost and manure to remineralize my soil, the minerals come in a much more balanced form. Mother nature has been remineralizing the soil long before we existed, nobody ever had to apply CalMag to the redwoods.

I have never grown alfalfa(I buy organic pellets by the 50-pound bag), but I do grow comfrey outside. I have a big patch downhill from my compost piles. Comfrey has super long roots and it can pull nutrients up from the subsoil, some consider it a bioaccumulator for its ability to do this. My theory for growing comfrey below my compost piles is that hopefully, the comfrey can recover some of the nutrients that get leached into the soil when it rains on the piles. There are two main types of comfrey, I grow the Russian bocking comfrey.

There was a thread started on here about growing with a topsy turvy https://www.rollitup.org/t/anyone-grow-cannabis-upside-down.175002/

I am going to try growing some autos this year for the first time. A super cool and generous member here gifted me some seeds and I'm excited to try them out. Where I live the law only restricts the number of mature/budding plants that you have at a given time, so I'm going to try to grow autos and photoperiod plants outside this year. The theory being that the photos will finish long before my regular photoperiod plants become mature, thus staying within legal limits and getting two harvests outdoor. I'll post results.

As for photo plants I'm planning on growing some AK Bean Brains Skunk Quabbage bx4 and Purple Hindu Kush as well as some Bodhi OM4.
How about you? I watched your unboxing video on Youtube, very cool man, I enjoyed it.
Oh man that's my fear exactly. My kids screaming that Shiloh got to a chicken lol. I'm inspired to get her some good obedience training and working on getting a chicken coop here soon. If thing go the way I hope I'll be purchasing a home here soon and I can have a much stronger and clear picture of what the true scale of sustainability I can obtain is. Right now the doom of renting hangs heavy, I coulda used this money to buy this place :lol::lol::lol:
Fenced in sounds smart as heck as my neighbors have lured a racoon into our cul-de-sac and now he roams regularly awaiting your trash to rustle through and the last thing I want is to deal with an egg thief. I love the natural Sulfur addition, especially since its not pit mined, its crazy to thing how removed we've become from the supply chain and the realization its probably wrecking the environment in order for us to have it. I've been working on making sure everything I get is OMRI listed or can be OMRI listed. id rather deal with a couple rounds of dead/hurt plants and learn sustainable and organic gardening than ace it every time and contribute anymore damage to the environment I depend on to continue living

I'm loving the comfrey growing! any tips or tricks for a first time grower? can I just sow those girls or is there a process to it? That thread is what my buddy saw and its what brought me to Rollitup actually so it's full circle but I've seen and heard soo many things about the thing and I'm already experimenting using a Patio Planter and it's working well so far I'll definitely use it again possibly for tester of the auto variety. Im super stoked for you! my first auto was a breeze! she was outdoor and i did nothing. yielded a ounce or so. I cant wait to see you murder some autos man! same here we're limited to 6 veg / 6 bud so working your numbers is wonky but dooable.

sounds like a plan made for a winner, staggering harvest is the best way to go. I'm leaning that in my gaps I could've planted seeds, moved girls over, transplanted e.c.t. as long as you take you new knowledge with ya to the new grow its always a W

Quabbage bx4 what's THAT ABOUT?!? sounds like som fire my man
I just harvested my Northern Rasberry last night (pics soon) and I'm flowering my Pine Tar Gush. in my Veg tent we have Berry Spaced Ape, Wedding Crasher, Putang Juice, Athena's Wisdom and 2 seeds who I've mixed through and I'm almost certain they're either Wozwers From Exotic Genetics or my General Ursus Kush. working on getting some good autos to un in my tents when I flip my indoor gals outdoor

Thank you man i really appreciate the love! Working on a ton of content and making sure I'm passing on the correct info is what I'm doing now but ill be weekly posting here soon
 

Funkentelechy

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Oh man, don't get me started about raccoons those things are like little Tasmanian devils, especially suburban/urban raccoons they're not afraid of anything. One time at about 1:00 am, I let my dogs out into the yard to pee. I hear this crazy growling noise and then I hear one of my dog's yip, so I jumped out of bed, grab a flashlight and run out into my yard, I'm totally naked because I was sleeping mind you, and I see a family of raccoons attacking my biggest dog, my smaller dog ran off into the woodshed he was like fuck this I'm out of here.
The bigger dog, who is a large pit cross, was trying to fight off the raccoons the best she could, but there was one huge raccoon that kept on charging at her and bitting her, so I run out there grab the only thing I could find at the time which was a lawn chair and started yelling and wailing on the raccoon. Eventually, I got it to stop attacking the dog and it ran off into the woods, but I bet my neighbors thought it was pretty entertaining waking up to me standing in my yard, stark naked, screaming at the top of my lungs and beating a raccoon with a lawn chair.
Long story short, raccoons are mean man!

Comfrey is super easy to grow once you get it started. Like I said there are two main varieties, true comfrey, and Russian Bocking comfrey. True comfrey spreads like crazy and you have to manage it from doing so by continually cutting the flowering tops off before they go to seed, otherwise, it can take over. But it can be managed if you're diligent, or not if you don't mind it taking over your yard.

Russian Bocking comfrey is a hybrid of true comfrey and another type called prickly comfrey. Russian comfrey's seeds are sterile and because of that, it doesn't spread like true comfrey. To get it to propagate you have to split the plant at the root wad, basically dividing the plant into two plants, it grows as several stems coming out of a clump of roots, so it's not as hard to divide it as it may sound.

Both varieties are very medicinal also, it contains allantoin, comfrey's other name is bone knit, traditionally it was used to heal broken bones, bruises, scars, all sorts of things.

The easiest way to grow comfrey is from starts, but you can grow true comfrey from seed. You can find Russian comfrey at nurseries sometimes, I was lucky enough to be given some from a friend who dug some up out of their yard for me. Once you get it started it is vigorous and prolific, it produces an abundance of leaves that can be cut over and over again throughout the season, and it just keeps producing biomass.

Skunk Qabbage, is an old Subcool strain from back when Subcool was really good. it's a cross of Qrazy Train and Chocolope. AK Bean Brains found a pheno that he liked from the seeds, cloned it, and then backcrossed the seeds back to the desirable clone 7 times to stabilize it, creating Skunk Qabbage Bx7(sorry I wrote Bx4 originally, meant Bx7). Been looking at it for a while, we'll see how they turn out. The name is a reference to Skunk Cabbage which is a plant that grows at northern attitudes and smells like rotting meat or skunk when you rub it to detur things from eating it.

Stoked to hear how your Northern Rasberry and Pine Tar Gush turn out.
And good luck on your channel, I liked and subscribed!
 

Vbz.420

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Located in North IL and maybe the final frost here lands in Late april.. Still not sure but i gotta keep a very close eye on outside temps since the weather here likes to f*×!k with us lmao... Going to start my first official grow in my pals backyard this year for sure and im with you on the full organics.. I mean its only right.. Right? Lol. Glad to see your excitement and enthusiasm in this post. I noticed ALOT that people here are cool as sh*t and show straight respect. I got love for that. Happy growing man.
VBZ :hump: :eyesmoke:
 

rembrandt100

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Going to be mid May before planting outside where I am. But I do have an unheated greenhouse in the yard so the plants will be started about mid March in the basement then moved out there to harden off. If that works out I should have 2 ft plants to move outside when the time comes.
 

Tht_Blk_Guy27

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Oh man, don't get me started about raccoons those things are like little Tasmanian devils, especially suburban/urban raccoons they're not afraid of anything. One time at about 1:00 am, I let my dogs out into the yard to pee. I hear this crazy growling noise and then I hear one of my dog's yip, so I jumped out of bed, grab a flashlight and run out into my yard, I'm totally naked because I was sleeping mind you, and I see a family of raccoons attacking my biggest dog, my smaller dog ran off into the woodshed he was like fuck this I'm out of here.
The bigger dog, who is a large pit cross, was trying to fight off the raccoons the best she could, but there was one huge raccoon that kept on charging at her and bitting her, so I run out there grab the only thing I could find at the time which was a lawn chair and started yelling and wailing on the raccoon. Eventually, I got it to stop attacking the dog and it ran off into the woods, but I bet my neighbors thought it was pretty entertaining waking up to me standing in my yard, stark naked, screaming at the top of my lungs and beating a raccoon with a lawn chair.
Long story short, raccoons are mean man!

Comfrey is super easy to grow once you get it started. Like I said there are two main varieties, true comfrey, and Russian Bocking comfrey. True comfrey spreads like crazy and you have to manage it from doing so by continually cutting the flowering tops off before they go to seed, otherwise, it can take over. But it can be managed if you're diligent, or not if you don't mind it taking over your yard.

Russian Bocking comfrey is a hybrid of true comfrey and another type called prickly comfrey. Russian comfrey's seeds are sterile and because of that, it doesn't spread like true comfrey. To get it to propagate you have to split the plant at the root wad, basically dividing the plant into two plants, it grows as several stems coming out of a clump of roots, so it's not as hard to divide it as it may sound.

Both varieties are very medicinal also, it contains allantoin, comfrey's other name is bone knit, traditionally it was used to heal broken bones, bruises, scars, all sorts of things.

The easiest way to grow comfrey is from starts, but you can grow true comfrey from seed. You can find Russian comfrey at nurseries sometimes, I was lucky enough to be given some from a friend who dug some up out of their yard for me. Once you get it started it is vigorous and prolific, it produces an abundance of leaves that can be cut over and over again throughout the season, and it just keeps producing biomass.

Skunk Qabbage, is an old Subcool strain from back when Subcool was really good. it's a cross of Qrazy Train and Chocolope. AK Bean Brains found a pheno that he liked from the seeds, cloned it, and then backcrossed the seeds back to the desirable clone 7 times to stabilize it, creating Skunk Qabbage Bx7(sorry I wrote Bx4 originally, meant Bx7). Been looking at it for a while, we'll see how they turn out. The name is a reference to Skunk Cabbage which is a plant that grows at northern attitudes and smells like rotting meat or skunk when you rub it to detur things from eating it.

Stoked to hear how your Northern Rasberry and Pine Tar Gush turn out.
And good luck on your channel, I liked and subscribed!
This guy is the EXACT SAME!!! came into the area with me 7 years ago, eating cat food left out for the outdoor cats my neighbor has and ever since then he's gotten a whole family now of fat little zebra sausages that wont stop eating my garbage. Shit sucks because I cant ask the neighbors to stop feeding their pets but shit. I'm glad to hear the dogs were scarred but not harmed lol. Those 'coons only care for one thing in this world and its unbridled chaos.

im going to get both kinds and see how it work into my garden. maybe some Russian comfrey in my garden areas and a patch of true comfrey out in the pasture just to see how each works. i appreciate the input and the info its always appreciated and used!

thanks you i appreciated the love and support!
i got about a ounce and a half of flower the rest is getting dried out and deseeded as one of my girls was a boy and hit my whole tent. Shit hurts because it wasn't even a thought and I stopped checking the tent around the last 3 weeks so nobodys bad but mine. I'm going to turn the flower into edibles though so wins and losses. Im looking forward to seeing how good that that qabbage comes out for you! sounds like some legendary dank in the making
 

Tht_Blk_Guy27

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YOOOOOOOOOOO what the HELL was the weather on this last week...sheesh.... -3 here in Oklahoma at one point it was bad. prayers to all and i hope nobody lost life, limbs or property! check in y'all!
 
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Tht_Blk_Guy27

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Going to be mid May before planting outside where I am. But I do have an unheated greenhouse in the yard so the plants will be started about mid March in the basement then moved out there to harden off. If that works out I should have 2 ft plants to move outside when the time comes.
your priming for some monsters there my guy lol. i like the thinking and im working on getting a similar staging system going like what your talking about. Excellent ingenuity
 
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