Ourdoor Scrog?

Stoney Macgyver

Active Member
So my question, is it possible outside? I have build a 4x5 Garden with a Frame around it about 7ft high, and im going to line with 6mil Clear Poly... Now my question is if I place a trellis about 3ft-4ft off the ground, and I was planning on growing one to begin with, but I may plant two. I have a 4'Width 5' Length 2'Deep Garden refilled with composted soil, and Im going to be planting in ground. Would I be able to fit two in the same plot? And would Scrog work? Ive done two scrogs before this, one hydro, one soil. But never outdoor let alone anyone doing it outdoors?

I know some people say Scrog is indoor only, but fuck it right?(hahaha)

Any ideas are welcome?
And or also dream killers are welcome too, because really I could care less... If I dont do this im going to LST... So either way! Thanks!:bigjoint:
 

ginjawarrior

Well-Known Member
i think the main purpose of scrogging indoors is to keep the buds all within the sweet spot of the light as every time you double the distance from the light you 1/4 the light intensity. but as the suns such a long way away the difference between top and bottom of plant is negligible.
having said that having the plant spread out in a scrog outdoors will mean that there arent any shaded buds and it should increase your yeild

as to whether to put 1 or 2 plants out there depends on when you plant them and where aboutsa in the world you are. where i am i dont get 12hour days/nights till about 20 september and unless im forcing them to flower by artificially giving them 12hours dark then 20th september would be end of my veg cycle. so if you can get 1 plant big enough in that time then one but you could always grow 2 and trim if needed
 

Robert Paulson

Active Member
I personally love the ScrOG technique. I have done it mostly indoor but it works well outdoor as well, especially if you don't want your plants shooting up over the fence. You'll definitely want to keep an eye on the flower development to make sure you train them long enough but not too long as you may damage the flowers. in a space that big i would say go ahead and plant two. and as they develope trim the plant down to only stalks that are going to grow fat colas, I like about 16 per plant. this way only the main stalks grow giving you a more even canopy.
 

treemansbuds

Well-Known Member
YES SCROG-
I scroged a couple of plants last year, and going to do it to all my plants this year. I had 1 plant with a trunk as big around as a coke can, and yielded 3.5lbs. She got so BIG that I put my scrog screen 4' high, and she out grew that in a couple of months. I had buds 10' high, spread out in a 6'x6' area. SHE WAS A MONSTER. I grow in a 20x20 cage covered with concrete mesh 6"x6" squares, 8' high. She grew up through the top of the cage, through the squares, and the concrete mesh kept the buds from falling over.
So, i"m thinking 1 plant should be enough, depending on strain, love given, and a long enough veg time. If you have it wrapped in plastic like a hot house, then she may get HUGE.
Good luck,
TMB-
I see 1 problem with wrapping in plastic, it's going to be a bitch to work under the scrog with plastic on all 4 sides.I'd make the plastic removable so you can access the bottom side of the plants.
 

Stoney Macgyver

Active Member
Im growing long season in central cali. My spot gets around 6-7 hours give or take more take than give... Im going completely organic this year. And yes the plastic will be removable! Nothing permanent.
 

doublejj

Well-Known Member
I told you that 'weed cage' would turn into a giant scrog, TMB. Worked great!

Yes, you can scrog outdoors, do like TMB says & use re-mesh wire

peace
doublejj
 

treemansbuds

Well-Known Member
I told you that 'weed cage' would turn into a giant scrog, TMB. Worked great!

Yes, you can scrog outdoors, do like TMB says & use re-mesh wire

peace
doublejj
What's up jj-
I got 4" of snow last night, the greenhouse is still going strong with snow melting off fast. Cool to see with the snow on top and the 1000 watter glowing through..
YES, you did say that the cage would fill up fast and become a giant scrog. That was TLD's SR-71 Purple Kush that became a monster, well I guess not such a monster when talking to you.....LOL
TMB-
 

Gopedxr

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This thread is awesome! Been thinking about the scrog myself after seeing it so succesful with other people as well. How the heck to do you build the screen though? Looks crazy when do you put on and and how far up the plant?
 

C.Sativa

Member
From HighGrow, Grow Guide:
My name is Jim and I have been actively growing marijuana for six years.

By actively, I mean that I have consistently attempted to grow the largest, most potent crop of marijuana possible in my small, but sunny greenhouse. In my "active attempts", I have discovered a method of doubling the volume of my harvests and I would now like to share this discovery with anyone else out there cultivating marijuana in a limited growing area.

Living in South Africa, we are fortunate to experience a warm climate with long sunny days and with these conditions, I figured that I'd have the most success growing my plants in an outdoor greenhouse. So, with privacy in mind, I built a small greenhouse in a very secluded part of my garden, and in eight large pots, I planted twenty of the best seeds I could lay my hands on.

Although my first harvest was very potent, the plants quickly filled up all the available space and started growing along the greenhouse roof. By growing in a greenhouse, my plants did not experience windy stem-strengthening conditions and when the buds started developing, some of the branches started to sag with the increased weight. I was forced to support these branches by tying them to the roof with string. At harvest time, I noticed something very interesting...

Many of the buds growing on the lower, supported branches developed better than the buds that were growing higher and along the roof. It was as if the plants now used less energy growing stem support and more energy developing buds.

With my next crop, I planted less seeds (this time a cross of my own Swazi/Skunk hybrid) and spent more time trying to keep the plants away from the roof. I did this by tying the branches down horizontally until the flowers started developing and then, as the weight increased, supporting the branches from the greenhouse roof. Wow, what a difference!! The quality was excellent, but this time I had also increased the quantity of buds per plant in the small area available.

Realising that the most potent buds develop near the tips of the plants and having discovered that the strongest growing buds developed on supported branches growing horizontally, I planned my next harvest. I had to keep the branches away from the greenhouse roof, growing horizontally, supported, with more energy available for developing buds. For me, there was only one solution...

At a local hardware store, I purchased a few square meters of a thin wire mesh commonly used for light-duty fencing. I suspended the mesh approximately two-thirds of the distance between the floor and the (two-meter high) roof, horizontally, over the growing seedlings. As the growing tips reached the mesh and started growing through the openings, I pulled them down again and trained them horizontally into all the open spaces available. I performed this pulling-training procedure every few days until the first female buds started showing.

By this time, the few plants that I had growing below the mesh had produced a tight matting of growing tips all along the surface of the wire. Sadly, few buds developed in the limited light below the mesh, but above the surface, every square centimeter was filled with strongly growing tips with plenty of room to develop thick, well supported buds. By the time the first flowering buds started turning brown (which is usually the time I prefer to harvest), the tips of the branches had almost reached the roof of my greenhouse. The volume and quality of buds above the mesh had far exceeded any of my previous attempts. Hooooray!!!

I hope this helps someone?
 

Hopsnmalt

Active Member
I told you that 'weed cage' would turn into a giant scrog, TMB. Worked great!

Yes, you can scrog outdoors, do like TMB says & use re-mesh wire

peace


doublejj
Double and TMB,
You guys sound like you've tried the outdoor scrog and Double is in my area. I've grown outside a few times, successfully, inside once, successfully, never scrogged.
Hear my plan and let me know if I'm fuggin something up. On May 15th I'll plant out, should be about 2 foot +. My holes are 12' apart and huge. I'll be growing through / into a 5' x 16' hog panel (rigid 6x6 grid) suspended about 30" off the ground horizontally. The plants will be at each end of the panel growing towards each other, I'm pretty sure they'll meet in the middle in such an arrangement. Should I just bend them over and feed the tips in and out of the grid or center the plants up in the grid after cutting it in half and top them? The location, soil, nutes and sun exposure should allow these girl to get huge, I just don't want 12'+ plants.
Thanks in advance for any input,

Peace,

Hops
 

Hopsnmalt

Active Member
O.K., just looked at treemans weedcage as doublejj calls it. :) Looks like 30 inches off the ground won't help much. Treeman, you think 48 would be better? Also, I think I learned the answer to the placement question... looks like it would be way labor intensive to thread the tip, so I'll do it in the middle of a 5x8 rigid screen, top it at about 24" and spread the branches apart and up. Yes?

Peace,
Hops
 
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