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getogrow · Jan 16, 2021

mistergrafik said:
This is a great breakdown ; I appreciate it. This is of the medium that the Dark Lord came in?

Peat moss is more acidic and also as it breaks down acidifies even further locking out some key nutrition so you are correct

For microgreens and such it is wonderful - It is actually why I bought my sunshine mix #4. I liked that mix so much I ammended it with some things and use it for a couple mother plants

I have always used peat moss like promix and sunshine and always "knew" it was a low ph. Without the lime its not going to work very well for weed. Now , recently i was seeing the mix the lady had all her nice plants in and asked her what it was.....she said spagmoss. I was lost, so i came home and researched and it seems its just moss that is on top of the bogs , unmolested , just dried and sent off to sell.

She told me that spagmoss has a neutral ph. That coincides with what i read a year ago ..."sphagnum peat moss has a ph around 6-6.5" "peat moss has a ph of around 5-5.5"
Now im just lost and im going to call it "low" ....once i get my organics fully up and running ill be using the local lab for soil samples a LOT. so i'll be able to see what my particular mix is at....

mistergrafik · Jan 16, 2021

getogrow said:
I have always used peat moss like promix and sunshine and always "knew" it was a low ph. Without the lime its not going to work very well for weed. Now , recently i was seeing the mix the lady had all her nice plants in and asked her what it was.....she said spagmoss. I was lost, so i came home and researched and it seems its just moss that is on top of the bogs , unmolested , just dried and sent off to sell.

She told me that spagmoss has a neutral ph. That coincides with what i read a year ago ..."sphagnum peat moss has a ph around 6-6.5" "peat moss has a ph of around 5-5.5"
Now im just lost and im going to call it "low" ....once i get my organics fully up and running ill be using the local lab for soil samples a LOT. so i'll be able to see what my particular mix is at....

Heck yeah .. Out of curiousity do u have a link where I can purchase the raw spagmoss? I have some things I need to germ

getogrow · Jan 16, 2021

Dark lord update: First thing i did was take the plant outta the pot and put a couple inches of FFOF in there , then placed the plant right back on top. Now it has its first growth spurt. Nice new leaf coming out. It was in 100% "spagmoss" when i bought it.

getogrow · Jan 16, 2021

3 x12L Sphagnum Moss Orchid Plants New Zealand Brick Classic Besgrow Spagmoss | eBay

Besgrow Sphagnum Moss. Great properties of Besgrow Sphagnum Moss. How to use Spagmoss Sphagnum subnitens, long, long, soft, feather-like Has chemical properties The air and water spaces are similar to the Sphagnum Cristatum, but the mosses have poor structural qualities but are generally good...

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Thats the one with the breakdown on it. The new zeland stuff.
This is probably a better deal: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BR1B1H2?pf_rd_r=3P10V136J01TC6HQAQFP&pf_rd_p=5ae2c7f8-e0c6-4f35-9071-dc3240e894a8

mistergrafik · Jan 16, 2021

getogrow said:
3 x12L Sphagnum Moss Orchid Plants New Zealand Brick Classic Besgrow Spagmoss | eBay

Besgrow Sphagnum Moss. Great properties of Besgrow Sphagnum Moss. How to use Spagmoss Sphagnum subnitens, long, long, soft, feather-like Has chemical properties The air and water spaces are similar to the Sphagnum Cristatum, but the mosses have poor structural qualities but are generally good...

www.ebay.com

Thats the one with the breakdown on it. The new zeland stuff.
This is probably a better deal: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BR1B1H2?pf_rd_r=3P10V136J01TC6HQAQFP&pf_rd_p=5ae2c7f8-e0c6-4f35-9071-dc3240e894a8

Gracias mi amigo!!!

The Dark Lord looks fckn SWEET. Damn

getogrow · Jan 16, 2021

I dont think its going to take a whole lot of time to get a baby from the dark lord.... maybe 6 months ish ? Not sure but i want to get my hands on some of them beautiful succs. We shall see....

MICHI-CAN · Jan 16, 2021

getogrow said:
i got some real chunky and long fiber coco coming and i also grabbed some "fresh sphagnum moss". (im not sure what they call the "unmolested" moss vs the basic peat in promix or bales. )
Both of them are going to run a neutral ph, which is perfect for my homemade "soils". For all my house plants i plan on doing about 60% chucky coco, 20% perlite and 20% soil/ewc/compost. (after some time i'll adjust the soil up, im sure)

For the orchid , everyone says acidic ph so i will find some bark to use as the base. fir bark ?

Happy growing yall

White oak bark is my secret ingredient here for orchids. Something in it promotes root growth in my orchids and rhododendrons.

getogrow · Jan 16, 2021

mister, what do you recommend for repotting the bromeliad ? Something real shallow or a regular small pot ?

mistergrafik · Jan 16, 2021

getogrow said:
mister, what do you recommend for repotting the bromeliad ? Something real shallow or a regular small pot ?

a regular small pot I think is best;

I've never had anything in a shallow pot besides some succs propagating

mistergrafik · Jan 16, 2021

"
Epiphytic Bromeliads have a compact root system primarily for anchorage rather than moisture and nutrient uptake and retention. Epiphytes need a lightweight, fast draining mix without too much water holding capacity, or they will be susceptible to rot.

Terrestrial Bromeliads are generally larger and have root systems similar to other more common plants which have greater soil volume and moisture requirements.

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mistergrafik · Jan 16, 2021

The miniature pineapples I have are 'Terrestrial Broms'

getogrow · Jan 17, 2021

mistergrafik said:
The miniature pineapples I have are 'Terrestrial Broms'

Can you tell me what kind i have ? and is mine flowering ? i got it from lowes so it was probably in bloom when i got it ? will it die on me soon ? Thanks bud!

getogrow · Jan 17, 2021

MICHI-CAN said:
White oak bark is my secret ingredient here for orchids. Something in it promotes root growth in my orchids and rhododendrons.

I cant find any white oak on the internet, so ill be needing you to send me some of your prized stash. I guess ill just go with some fir bark or just use peat. im not sure yet.

mistergrafik · Jan 17, 2021

getogrow said:
Can you tell me what kind i have ? and is mine flowering ? i got it from lowes so it was probably in bloom when i got it ? will it die on me soon ? Thanks bud!

Is it in the background of that Dark Lord photo there? The pot it is in, is a good size until it begins to tilt if so; repot in a nice draining mix. Nice dry periods as it's a low water plant. I would use the Hoffman stuff to be honest LOL

mistergrafik · Jan 17, 2021

It's a cactus mix but es okay. Miracle grow one works just as good :eyesmoke:

getogrow · Jan 17, 2021

Yes its in the background of the dark lord , top middle , kinda leaning to the right. Its about an 8oz pot maybe 12 tops. i have a better pic in this thread somewheres.
The leaning is what makes me want to repot it. It wont fall out of the pot but i sure got it leaning on other plants just in case.

mistergrafik · Jan 17, 2021

getogrow said:
Yes its in the background of the dark lord , top middle , kinda leaning to the right. Its about an 8oz pot maybe 12 tops. i have a better pic in this thread somewheres.
The leaning is what makes me want to repot it. It wont fall out of the pot but i sure got it leaning on other plants just in case.

Yes repot that thang! With cactus mix and a bit above original soil line not too much.. That's what I would do and then mulch it in with your bark so it stays moist under there but not wet and the cactus mix is course so when dry the roots will get nice and sturdy hopefully keep it upright

Bareback · Jan 17, 2021

mistergrafik said:
Got these before they restricted shipping to my state lol. I'm sure u can still find them.
Pink Blueberries. Did u know? If u tell anyone my cat will come 4 u

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This pictures fairly old. She's about 3 ft now. The hard part is they need what's called 'chill hours'. Don't we all? (for plants it doesn't involve Hennessey and spliffs only degrees below 40? I believe I can't remember off the top of my head). It doesn't get cold enough over here so I'm building a dry ice frame to cool the foliage over night and maybe set some fruit. It needs 300 hours or so. Not my pic below, but it's real.

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Have you propagated blueberrys? I’m trying to figure out how to clone or root them and plum as well. I’ve had minimal success with cuttings and rooting hormones. I built a new aero cloner to try spring but it ain’t time yet. I know graphing and air laying is probably best but I’m trying to succeed in different ways. Anyway I thought I would ask just to see if you had any advice to share.
Peace Bear

getogrow · Jan 17, 2021

Got my coco chips and fibers in the mail today....its fuckin beautiful. something is going into this today!
I dont see much need for perlite in this stuff , im going to add ewc to give it some food and probably leave it as is.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N9EBJ9U/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Bareback · Jan 17, 2021

Beehive said:
That's called an acquired taste. Slimy boiled. The only thing that gets slimy as its boiled.

My favorite is pickled.

If you can get a brand named “ Wickle’s “ ...... Wickle’s pickled okra is the best I’ve ever had. I love pickled okra and have had a lot of different brands........ what’s your favorite? Or do you pickle your own, if so can you share the recipe? I grow four 20’ rows of crimson spineless every year. For frying and boiling, fresh or frozen it’s yummy.

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