Organic Growing Made Easy & Fox Farms Ocean Forest!

An interesting diagram depicting the cycle of nature.
Relative info abound!

One thing I've learned so far is that there isn't one perfect soil for any plant, but a well built soil will can produce a perfect plant!
There are SOOOOO many ways to get from point A to B when building your soil!
I do this because I figure its up to up to build off of each others results.

I've posted the soil mix that I'm using and the results are available to be seen via my sig.
I've currently mixed up a second batch and will be able to review it sometime this summer.
Meanwhile I learn

Helps Me to learn by reading things again and again

Give your plants the buffet treatment! Set em up with an all you can eat soil and let them get as FAT as they want to

- 2 gals. FFOF / 1/2gal. Perlite / 1 oz. domalite lime per gal. soil
-amend soil every 3weeks till chop with a heaping spoonful of sunleaves seabird guano. Normalwater pattern ph 6.2-6.5. Nothing more and green till chop….. oh, last amend 3 weeks till chop. simple repeatable pattern cause I have other things to do in life....

Nice relaxed! I appreciate the input!
Green till chop, water only......You can't beat that!

Nice relaxed! I appreciate the input!
Green till chop, water only......You can't beat that!

Ps, do you cycle it before use or use it straight outta the bag?

straight out of the bag. Does just fine with seedlings in this mix. also, reuse the soil as well. Just ad some more perlite and an oz of lime per gallon of soil as well as a tablespoon of seabird guano for clones etc. a lot of these organic guys go way overboard...imo just to make them feel good about doing something organic.

Nice bro. And IDK about the guys going way overboard lol, there's just that many different things you can put together to produce the same result ya know?
The word is that diversity is what we're after in the soil, so applying different things to add NPK, minerals, and micronutes to the soil seems to be more like an art to me ya know?

BUT if you can get by and produce good results with the bare minimum, why not right?
I'm still looking for a the perfect combination of things to add...I'll be experimenting for the next 10 years I'm sure lol.

But yeah man, there's just TOO MANY WAYS to do this

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Just cracked a new book and thought the intro was worth a share

Azomite® is a fine alkaline (pH 8.0) volcanic mineral powder with a wide spectrum of minerals, trace elements, and monatomic elements (aka, ORMUS) used for remineralizing soils and as an inexpensive, high quality nutritional supplement for livestock. It can be added to fermented plant and animal foods to increase mineral content; microbes will make the minerals more bioavailable.

Azomite is a silica clay mined in Utah that came from ancient volcanic eruptions that deposited ash in a nearby lake bed. The area later over time was submerged under the ocean and had hundreds of rivers flowing into it, depositing even more ORMUS-rich minerals. Volcanoes, ocean water, and river water are high sources of ORMUS elements. This is a unique source of high ORMUS minerals found nowhere else in the world.

Minerals In Azomite®
In a typical chemical assay, AZOMITE® contains more than 70 trace minerals which include many rare earth elements (lanthanides). Many of these elements have been depleted from soils worldwide. See the complete typical analysis of AZOMITE® to the left. In animals, AZOMITE has been shown in scientific studies to bind some mycotoxins typically found in animal feed as well as improving Average Daily Gain (ADG), Feed Conversion Ratio (FCR), and reducing mortality rates even in the absence of any mycotoxins. There is speculation that the presence of approximately 70 trace minerals may be the reason for these results, and may improve the health of animals who ingest the product.Damn

...I've grown with the FFOF many of times, thought I'd give some input
...I simply transplant clones into a small pot (16oz) for 2-4 weeks of veg.... then transplant into a 3 gallon pot at the time of flowering....give water only all the way through the grow....quality bud guaranteed.

SOMEBEECH said:

Azomite® is a fine alkaline (pH 8.0) volcanic mineral powder with a wide spectrum of minerals, trace elements, and monatomic elements (aka, ORMUS) used for remineralizing soils and as an inexpensive, high quality nutritional supplement for livestock. It can be added to fermented plant and animal foods to increase mineral content; microbes will make the minerals more bioavailable.

Azomite is a silica clay mined in Utah that came from ancient volcanic eruptions that deposited ash in a nearby lake bed. The area later over time was submerged under the ocean and had hundreds of rivers flowing into it, depositing even more ORMUS-rich minerals. Volcanoes, ocean water, and river water are high sources of ORMUS elements. This is a unique source of high ORMUS minerals found nowhere else in the world.

Minerals In Azomite®
In a typical chemical assay, AZOMITE® contains more than 70 trace minerals which include many rare earth elements (lanthanides). Many of these elements have been depleted from soils worldwide. See the complete typical analysis of AZOMITE® to the left. In animals, AZOMITE has been shown in scientific studies to bind some mycotoxins typically found in animal feed as well as improving Average Daily Gain (ADG), Feed Conversion Ratio (FCR), and reducing mortality rates even in the absence of any mycotoxins. There is speculation that the presence of approximately 70 trace minerals may be the reason for these results, and may improve the health of animals who ingest the product.

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Thanks Capn

trichome fiend said:

...I've grown with the FFOF many of times, thought I'd give some input
...I simply transplant clones into a small pot (16oz) for 2-4 weeks of veg.... then transplant into a 3 gallon pot at the time of flowering....give water only all the way through the grow....quality bud guaranteed.

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Thanks for the input bro!
The first mix from the OP is what growing I'm in right now, while my second mix awaits the next operation.
But with that said, I'm 33 days into 12/12 with that first mix, and I'm seeing my girls yellow before my eyes from the bottom up.
VERY slowly, but gradually. I know that's natural yeah(Senescence), but I was hoping to keep everything green for another couple of weeks off of the strength of my soil mix.
I figured even tho I'm growing organic, if the N is available and can be used, it will be. And if the plants doesn't wanna use it, it will remain in the soil ecosytem. But again I'm stuck on senescence at this point. Any input on Senescence? I didn't think I'd be looking at yellowing until wk 7 or 8 given the fact that I've amended my soil.

And I've used AACT's 3 out of every 4 waterings since I've started, and I've top dressed occasionally with EWCs, Kelp Meal, and Hi P Bat Guano,
in attempt to constantly inoculate the soil and add to it as much as I can.
After all that I've done I thought for sure I would be able to keep things greener longer but but the flowering yellowing is setting it..
Now with that said, how do you make thru 2 months plus on what's in the bag?

I wonder how many years it'll take me to find that balance between quantity and quality.
And I've check a few of your posts out so I know your full info bro, so pardon my bombarding you with questions.
Cheers for the post boss

...what I've found is, it's the plant size/pot size ratio that determines how far along you'll get before your plants start to go deficient, not to mention your light source, exc...if all is "optimal" as they say, a guy could run an 8 week strain from clone with little to no veg (straight to flowering) in a 3 gallon pot with no problem until near harvest, just giving water throughout the whole grow...but, a sativa dom clone straight to flowering in a 3 gallon pot would probably need a transplant to stay attractive...a transplant around weeks 3-4 into a 5 gallon for sativa doms (9-10 wks) does ggggreat!

...if I wanted to veg my plant longer, I'd obviously end up with a much larger pot in the end.....I've found with organics, growing indoors, in containers...the answer is always, "transplant!"...if you do not have a good transplant technique to reduce the stress, you could slightly stunt your plant size, so be careful and always do your final transplant early on in flowering.

...I keep the organics indoors boring easy!...I don't even hit'em with an aact nor top-dress anymore ... dankx for the kind words.

Nice post again bro. I don't see why not keep it as simple as possible if it works ya know?!
Thanks for the share tho. I'm sure someone else will see the thread and try your method out!
And you're the second person to preach to me regarding numerous transplants, so I'll def. be utilizing the technique bro.

And your soil food web thread is holding strong bro! Good work with it!
In regards to this thread, I just wanted to stock pile a bunch of info regarding organic soil and put it all in one spot ya know?
I figure a lot of "noobs" like myself that wanna go Organics will end up doing what I did, which is amending an already bagged soil to avoid making one completely from scratch.

Nice to know that you don't have to do a thing with it if you don't want to tho, and you can still get good results.

Dankx for your share brother.

^^^^I'm stealing that one lol! I hope you don't mind