Organic Feeding 101.

ilovethegreen

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The only water I give to my girls is pond water. I get the stankiest-ass sludgeist water from the bottom of a lil water fall/ filter thing i have for my pond. I've been doing that for 2 years on my outdoors and it works well.
 

FresnoFarmer

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Organic farming lowers water pollution and builds soil fertility.


By eating organic food, you cut down on the chemical load that you take in, as it contains no insecticides, pesticides, growth hormones, antibiotics, fertilisers and toxic artificial additives, flavourings, colourings and preservatives.


The food reaches you in a natural state with its nutrient content intact.


Organic food is often fresher than non-organic food, because it has no preservatives so it is rushed straight to the shops.


Natural food as more flavour
When eating organic you still are eating chemicals.


Nice thread btw OP. Idk if it has already been mentioned, but potato peels are also a great source of potassium.

Here are some teas that I like. They are not mine, but I use these recipes


King of the HILL Organic Guano Tea Recipe




Week 1-3 Clone/ Seedling brew
Week 4-6 Veg 1 Brew
Week 7-9 Veg 2 Brew
Week 10-14 Bloom 1 Brew
Week 15-18 Bloom 2 Brew
Water with Brew once a week. Give fresh non-chlorinated water as needed in between brew.


Clone/Seedling Brew (less than 4 weeks old):
1/2 Cup of Earth Worm Castings or Alaskan Humus or fresh compost
2 1/2 TBS Unsulfured Black Strap Molasses
1 tsp Liquid Kelp Extract
Mix in 2 1/2 gallons of (treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) water with air stone for 18-24 hours.
Make sure to strain well through cheesecloth if using airoponic rootmisting.

Once a week until roots are over 1inch. Then same mix plus 2 TBS Mycorrhizae Fungus product (Oregonism XL).


Veg 1 Brew
1 cup Earth Worm Castings or Alaskan Humus or fresh compost
1/3 cup Mexican Bat Guano (Nitrogen rich guano)
1/2 cup Alfalfa meal
5 TBS Unsulfured Black Strap Molasses
5 TBS Liquid Kelp Extract
Mix in 5 gallons of (amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) water with air stone for 18-24 hours.

For soil drench application cut finished brew with fresh water(amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) 50/50.

For foliar feed application spray finished brew every 2-3 days in the first 6 hours of light. (MY PERSONAL FAVORITE)


Veg 2 Brew
1 cup Earth Worm Castings or Alaskan Humus or fresh compost
1/3 cup Mexican Bat Guano (Nitrogen rich guano)
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (all around rich guano **BE CAREFUL**)
1/2 cup Alfalfa meal
5 TBS Unsulfured Black Strap Molasses
5 TBS Liquid Kelp Extract
3-5 TBS Concentrated Fish emulsions
Mix in 5 gallons of (amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) water with air stone for 18-24 hours.

For soil drench application cut finished brew with fresh water(amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) 50/50.

For foliar feed application spray finished brew every 2-3 days in the first 6 hours of light. (MY PERSONAL FAVORITE)


Bloom 1 Brew
1 cup Earth Worm Castings or Alaskan Humus or fresh compost
1/3 cup Jamaican Bat Guano (Phosphorus rich guano)
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (all around rich guano **BE CAREFUL**)
1/2 cup Alfalfa meal
5 TBS Unsulfured Black Strap Molasses
5 TBS Liquid Kelp Extract
Mix in 5 gallons of (amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) water with air stone for 18-24 hours.

For soil drench application cut finished brew with fresh water(amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) 50/50.

For foliar feed application spray finished brew every 3-4 days in the first 6 hours of light. (MY PERSONAL FAVORITE)


Bloom 2 Brew
1 cup Earth Worm Castings or Alaskan Humus or fresh compost
2/3 cup Indonesian Bat Guano (Phosphorus rich guano)
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (all around rich guano **BE CAREFUL**)
1/2 cup Alfalfa meal
5 TBS Unsulfured Black Strap Molasses
5 TBS Liquid Kelp Extract
Mix in 5 gallons of (amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) water with air stone for 18-24 hours.

For soil drench application cut finished brew with fresh water(amquell treated or non-chlorinated or fish tank) 50/50.
DO NOT FOLIAR FEED AFTER WEEK 4 OF BLOOM

You can add a biological stimulator to any brew to give a jump start to the process. I LOVE OREGONISM XL by Root Organics. Follow directions on container.

FLUSHING DIRECTIONS: hahahahahahahahahahahah
Continue until the day you Harvest. Don't Panic, Its Organic!

Curing Directions:
Cut all leaves from buds, leaving only the flower.
Leave the buds on the branch.
Hang branches for 3-4 days on a line in a dark room at 70-75 degrees with average humidity (50-60rh)
Clip buds from branch and into cardboard box. Make sure they are one layer thin on the bottom of box not stacked. Leave them in the box, with the top on, for 3-4 days, giving them a good shake once a day.
Put buds in an air tight glass jar (Ikea) for 3-4 days. *** Very important to shake up and BURP(open top to release gasses) ONCE A DAY*****
After that it should be ready. If anyone tells you it will take less than 10 days to properly cure nugs, forget anything else they have ever told you.
The nugs should barely smell until you twist-break them open, then it should be DANK!

Other directions:

Brew in 5 gallon home depot bucket outside, for smell and overflow reasons. Use as many airstones as possible to bubble your brew. You can't add too much dissolved Oxygen. 18-24 hours later the Sweet molasses smell will turn to a rich earthy smell. IT IS DONE! Let sit for 20 minutes after you remove the airstones to allow sediment to settle to bottom. Pour 2.5 gallons into new bucket to 50/50 with fresh water for soil drench. Use tea with-in 6 hours of airstone removal at max. Right away is best. Rinse out bucket sludge into outside garden as soon as possible. If it dries i'll bet you a dollar you'll buy a new bucket.
 

Sirsly2012

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Ive.just finished a Big Bang grow using Plant Magic + Soil Supreme from beginning to end. The nutrients were also from Plant Magic. Plant Magic Plus Old Timer 'bloom' and 'grow'. Its an all in one feed containing all micro nutrients and whatever else your plant needs. The soil also uses Fytocell instead of Perlite (this is ofcourse of personal preference. I like to add a cup of Perlite to each 11litre tub along with the soil but its not neccassary.
 

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GRilla

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If I had a blueberry plant and decided to make a blueberry tea Will it give the plant a blueberry taste?
 

nick17gar

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If I had a blueberry plant and decided to make a blueberry tea Will it give the plant a blueberry taste?
yes and no, adding in blueberries to the soil, or tea might help the plant take on that taste, but more then likely it will just boost its growth and flowering. If you really want to take on that taste, stop adding everything else a week before harvest, and add just blueberry juice and water.

the last week before harvest thats what i do, usually with orange, lemon, or just honey+water.
 

Systema

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Organic feeding provides great results. A good organic grow starts with the soil. (look at subcool's section on that. he knows soil.) Im going to go over strictly what to do once the plant is in the dirt, and you still need to feed them something. Feeding the plants the right stuff is key to successful grows, and knowing what to feed and when, is needed for every grower.

If your plant has some sort of issue, theres threads on that https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/488004-guide-nutrient-deficiency-toxicity.html . this thread is gonna cover what do to AFTER you notice a deficiency, or just to keep a healthy garden. this will be using only organic nutrients. Ive purchased bottles of guano, and molasses and wondered... what now? well this is what now.

**note: most of these teas/mixtures involve some mixing, but a lot of wait time. this is to fully let the properties of the substance combine with the water, and for microbial activity to start. Do not skip the waiting**

Vegetative Teas:

Worm humus:
Origin:this mix is produced from the excrement of worms. they ingest organic material and you end up with this. The best quality of worm humus is going to be from the Californian worms.
Provides: water soluble, and boosts microbes in the soil
Preparation: In 5 liters of water, add in 400gr (about 2 cups) and let it sit for 2 days. stirring every so often to keep it well mixed and the water somewhat oxygenated.
Application:During the watering, mixing 1 part of poo-juice with 3 parts water. you can add this in weekly.

Blood Meal:
Origin: After removing and drying blood from animals(usually in a slaughterhouse), it is ground up into a fine powder.
Provides about 12-15%N, 1.2%P, and 1%k
Preparation: in a container, add 1 part blood meal to 9 parts water. cover. over 1 week, open to burp the mix, and stir. after, filter with coffee strainer.
Application: Applying usually only when N deficiency is noted, add to water to create a 10%-25% strength solution.

Gypsum
Origin: CaSO4. Its a rock basically, you can find it naturally outdoors, or (probably easier) at a local plant shop.
Provides: Activates healthy microbial activity. Corrects salinity (toxic salt levels). Provides sulfur, calcium and potassium. Regulates pH, and most importantly, helps in the absorption of N.
Preparation: add 1 pound of gypsum powder (use a mortar and pistil if its too coarse) to the inside of a nylon stocking, or other fine screen material. place this inside a container with 5L of water. Cover. leave for 1-2 weeks, opening the container to stir briskly every few days.
Application: Add it in with the water when pH is unstable, max 10% strength (so dilute it!). dilute it to 5% if mixing it with a N tea, and can be used weekly.

Fishmeal
Origin: obtained from dried, ground fish.
Provides: 8%N, 7%P, trace elements.
Preparation: mix 10% of this powder with 90% water in a container. leave it a week covered, and opening it to burp out the gas (dont breathe it in, smells). Filter at the end of the week.
Application: Dilute the mix, 1part fishgoop with 10 parts water. add in weekly with the feedings, or when a N/P deficiency is noted.

Bat Guano
Origin: decomposed bat poo. preferably pasteurized (since bats can and do carry disease, like rabies!)
Provides: High in N, but also contains P and trace elements. Fresher guano has higher N rating
Preparation: 2 tablespoons of bat poo in 4 -5 liters of water. let sit for 1 week
Application: mix the finished poo water, 1 part to 3 parts water. use every 2 weeks.

Mixed Teas: This is ok for veg + flowering.

Compost Tea (one of my favorites, as i use ground up male plants, or the sticks/stems/fan leaves of the harvested females for this)
Origin: The easiest to come across commercially, or to make at home. this is used worldwide with a variety of ingredients.
Provides: A big boost of microorganisms, helps feed the plants, and boosts a plant's immune system. NPK ratios vary depending the type of compost made.
Preparation: Place a bunch of dead plants in a nylon stocking or screen, put that inside a bucket with about 15L of water, adding water as it evaporates (which means leave it uncovered). after 2 weeks, dump the inside of the bag/screen/stocking back with the rest of your compost pile outside or throw it away or whatever.
Application: If you want to foliar feed this, filter it well, then 1:8 ratio of tea to water. otherwise, just add it in when watering, at a 1:5 ratio. use it every 2 weeks.

Alfalfa Tea. (can also be used during flowering)
Origin: your rabbit's food. this is ground up alfalfa, leaves, stems.
Provides: 2.5%n, 5%p, and 2%k.
Preparation: grabbing a nylon sock and filling with 1 part of the alfalfa, setting it into a bucket with 10 parts water. leave it for a week to create a strong tea.
Application: use every 2 weeks, diluted 1part tea with 10 parts water.

Manures
Origin: the business end of various animals.
Provides: This really depends on what the animal ate, and what the animal is. Rough estimates are:
Cows: .6%N-.3%P-.3%K
horse: .6%N-.6%P-.4%k
Rabbit: .5%N-1.2%P-.5%K
Sheep: .8%N-.5%P-.4%K
Pigs: .6%N-.6%P-.4%K
Preparation: 1 part crap to 10 parts water, in a bucket. 2 weeks, stirring periodically. (again, this is better for the nylon stockings, otherwise your gonna have to filter it - yuck)
Application: 1 part poop water to 1 part water. can be used every 2 weeks.

Fruit tea, with or without Molasses.
Origin: made with fermenting fruits. its recommended to add molasses for flowering.
Provides: Rich in NPK, but also contains calcium and some other trace elements. Very rich in microbial activity. Using molasses adds a large amounts of carbs and can contribute to fungus (in high heat grows)
Preparation: Cut fruits into small pieces. place in a container and cover them with molasses( OR cut up fruits, place into a ziploc bag with NO molasses or air) Let it sit for 2 weeks, opening it periodically to let out gases. filter.
Application: 1 tablespoon of fruit rot juice (ew) to 1 liter of water. use it every 10 days.

Flowering Teas:

Banana Peel Tea.
Origin: Bananas. Cheap to make. eat the banana, use the peels.
Provides: Strong Potassium Boost. ideal for flowering.
Preparation: after selecting 4 bananas, and eating the insides, place the 4 peels into a pot, with 4 cups of water (1L). You can also add in 2 tablespoons of molasses. Bring to a boil. let boil for 5 minutes. remove the peels. let cool. place in jars for storage.
Application: mix this 1 part banana goop to 2 parts water. use every 2 weeks.

Sea Weed
Origin: algae or kelp, dried, ground into a powder.
Provides: Lots of K, and trace elements, aminoacids, vitamins, hormones.
Preparation: 100grams of algae powder + 2Liters of water, let sit overnight.
Application: mix 1 part of sea weed juice to 3 parts water, and apply during waterings. can be used every watering.

Paper Ash tea.
Origin: This powder is obtained from burned paper. make sure the paper has no pigments (inks), glues, adhesives, or plastic covering. just plain paper. the cheaper the stuff, the better.
Provides: 5% P and 2% K
Preparation: Burn the paper fully. Ground up the ash. 100g of ash mixed with 2 L of water. let sit 10 days, then filter.
Application: use every 15 days, mixed 1 part ash juice to 2 parts water.

Bonemeal
Origin: Bones, crushed, ground up.
Provides: some N (3%?) and around 7% of P. high in calcium
Preparation: cook in a pot for 10 minutes, 200grams of bonemeal with 6 liters of water, and 1/2 cup of baking soda. let cool, then remove any grease that may have formed at the top. filter the rest of the mix.
Application: Use 1 part bone water to 3 parts water. use it at the start of the 12/12 cycle, or the start of flowering. will last the entire grow.



if you guys have other recipes, post them on here!
Every time i start a new grow i come here to see my feeding schedule ... + Rep nick this thread is awesome!
 

PrincessPot

Member
It was awesome to see that banana peel plant food in here. I have used bananas in the past, but never used molassas. Thanx for the great post.

Aloha,

Princess Pot
 

ltkipras

Active Member
Great threat already made some banana fertilizer, just one thing, do these processes make it a complete fertilizer, what i mean is that you don't need any microbes or fungi in the medium to process it?

Thanks :leaf:
 

WyoGrow

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i just started a compost pile i read its not useable for a year
If you just let it sit and do it's thing on it's own it can take a year. I finish compost from beginning to end in a tumbler in 6-8 weeks. You can speed up the process in a pile by turning it every week or two. Those little critters need oxygen to do their thang..... I can compost down lawn clippings in a little over a month by turning twice a week and keeping it damp and covered with a tarp.
 

Justin5737

Member
So during the last weeks of flower if i brew some raspberries in water you're saying it might take on the taste of raspberries? That would be tits. :hump:
 

Endur0xX

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Can any shed light on how long teas/nute mixes can sit out for? Aerated and unaerated? I ask because sometimes I've ended up making too much and it will sit/bubble for 2-3 days between use. Instead of dumping anything out, I'd like to just reuse it.
A thread I started a couple weeks ago :

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/575043-videos-compost-teas-nerdz.html

it should answer most of your questions and basically it's not recommended to go longer than 48hours unless you are in a lab :eyesmoke:
 

munchies7

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can i add the banana tea or the sea weed into my AACT teas? i only use a 2 gallon bucket and some times i use a 1 gallon i dont have many plants and after i watering em i usually throw it away... hope this plants starve so i can make more, so can i add this to my mix? it usually is worm casting, psg, molasses, some times alfalfa and now i will add sunshine mix #8 (pretty much spagnum n vermiculite) or can i just aerate the banana or seaweed teas?
 

iknowad

Member
I'm tempted to try some banana peel tea in my coco. Since its sort of hydro I'm not sure if i should apply once a week or every two weeks. I add a new brew of compost tea to the coco every 3 days so bacteria is thriving in there. Not sure exactly how I should apply the banana tea. Any suggestions?
 

Rrog

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In my opinion, the fundamental primary amendment is VermiCompost. Consider Barley tea, Aloe, and coconut water. These teas will yield huge hormone levels as well as secondary metabolites and plant enzymes. You can't get all that in a bottle.
 
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