Organic Cloning Products

Chalwa

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What Organic Cloning products do you guys suggest? The girl at the grow shop said she didnt know of one on the market and suggested that I make a willow tea.
 

Uvalax

Active Member
Sike I thought about this, is there organic, or do you even need rooting solution at all it just helps
 

MrBaker

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Welp uh, water is "organic" as previously mentioned.

In nature, plants use indole-acetic-acid, aka auxins to promote root growth. If you can't find any of that, I know MG makes indole-butyric-acid. I don't think in this case, being "organic" matters.
 

Wetdog

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Welp uh, water is "organic" as previously mentioned.

In nature, plants use indole-acetic-acid, aka auxins to promote root growth. If you can't find any of that, I know MG makes indole-butyric-acid. I don't think in this case, being "organic" matters.
Really! This is sort of carrying it to the absurd.:dunce:

I do organic as much as I can, but not to the point of limiting myself, that's self defeating.:wall:

I DO use willow-tea, AFTER the clones are rooted with Clonex and are transplanted into 1 gal pots. The first watering is done with willow tea and really seems to help. I tried rooting in willow tea and it was a disaster compared to clonex. Something like 20% compared to 95%. Not good if you are only doing a few clones.

The main ingredient in clonex is indole-butyric-acid.

Wet
 

MrBaker

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Really! This is sort of carrying it to the absurd.:dunce:

I do organic as much as I can, but not to the point of limiting myself, that's self defeating.:wall:

I DO use willow-tea, AFTER the clones are rooted with Clonex and are transplanted into 1 gal pots. The first watering is done with willow tea and really seems to help. I tried rooting in willow tea and it was a disaster compared to clonex. Something like 20% compared to 95%. Not good if you are only doing a few clones.

The main ingredient in clonex is indole-butyric-acid.

Wet
Willow tea huh? You like go outside, pull down some willow branches and make it into a tea? no sarcasm there, actual question.

I use the MG IB acid and it works pretty well. Either way, plants use chemicals, me and you use a similar chemical...close enough, right?

I agree with only being as "organic" as easily possible. :joint:
 

Sustainable420

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Willow tea huh? You like go outside, pull down some willow branches and make it into a tea? no sarcasm there, actual question.

I use the MG IB acid and it works pretty well. Either way, plants use chemicals, me and you use a similar chemical...close enough, right?

I agree with only being as "organic" as easily possible. :joint:
You can clone with cocopeat as a medium with like a willow tea or some honey solution I don't know about. All organic.
 

jjfoo

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why don't you just stick your cuttings in moist soil in a small pot or pack the soil into a cube and water till they show roots? You don't *need* to use rooting hormones. I've taken cuttings without hormones many times and most rooted fine.
 

MrBaker

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water is an inorganic chemical (H2O no carbon)

what do you mean water is organic?
I used quotation marks around organic to insinuate the implied meaning of organic commonly used in venues such as this. Eg, not referring to the presence of C, but to the amount of man-made synthetic nutrients used.

You're obviously someone educated enough to know the strict definition of organic, but 98% of the time in arenas such as this (gardening forums) organic isn't at all talking about where carbon is.

Part of what I was saying earlier touch briefly on this topic, and the definition of organic. The TS/OP obviously was looking for the most "natural" way aka, least man-made synthetic way to clone. That is partially the reason why I brought up how plants use indole-acetic-acid, a chemical that can be synthetically created (IB acid is close enough for argument's sake).

If you'd like to engage in anymore scientific banter, then by all means shoot me a pm so we aren't hijacking this thread.
 

Wetdog

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Willow tea huh? You like go outside, pull down some willow branches and make it into a tea? no sarcasm there, actual question.

I use the MG IB acid and it works pretty well. Either way, plants use chemicals, me and you use a similar chemical...close enough, right?

I agree with only being as "organic" as easily possible. :joint:
Well, there is a willow tree growing on the property line, so no problem to cut a few 'whips', de leaf them, cut into 1-1 1/2" lengths and then let soak for a couple of days in a 5 gal bucket.

I only do it with transplanted clones and only once for the first or so watering. Not hard to do, but constantly repeating it would be a pain in the butt.;-) Perhaps 3 times during the season? I don't do it when the willow is dormant for the winter.

Wet
 
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