Oregon Rec. Grow

Humanrob

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Interesting 3-d graphic, but I wonder how long it will take before DNA testing is done at the local level -- when dispensaries are selling "certified" clones or seeds... probably a while?
 

papapayne

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Dispensaries probably a long while. But, I have high hopes that breeders will be on board soon. It would be pretty cool imo to know what the real family is. Probably will be the more real breeders, and not the pollen chucker and operations that just cross shit to cookies and ogs. Another key imo is as they map what each terpene does to the body ie effect, and which genetic background produces it. It's one of the amazing things about legalization in some states, opens research to the smart folks, so us gardener's know what to plant for this medical condition. And in breeding to make sure we don't accidently breed out a terpene. I wonder sometimes especially if that's to late.
 

Organja

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What land races you working with ? And agree on that. So nice to have a discussion. Good vibes is all I have time for in my life :)
The mandala #1 is not far removed from the landrace parents, it is hybrid tho.
I have Orisha from mandala, and it's 100% sativa, I believe landrace as well.
I haven't grown the Orisha yet, sitting on those beans for the moment.
I do have beyond the brain going, which is a satori parental line by a Columbia haze I believe.

I am a huge advocate of mandala seeds!! They are amazing!
 

Humanrob

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Phylos seedling sex test seems interesting, too bad they don't have a DIY home test kit. One more thing that I'm sure is just a matter of time.
 

Amshif87

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I've started selling quite a few clones.. So I ended up bringing in genetics from other growers that I didn't know well... Big mistake. I grow indoor, greenhouse and outdoor, those damn mites love the indoor environment... So nukem has been my friend! I also found a great DIY product I like to use to mix it up on those little bastards. I've never had any trouble with any bugs until I brought in cuttings from other people!
Here's my DIY spray.. It's awesome and smells great too!

I add aloe juice 2oz per gallon. Essential oils and neem 1/4 teaspoon per gallon. Emulsify the dr bronners first and use warm water. Dr bronners 1 tablespoon per gallon. Then add your oils, use only 4 of them at a time (always cinnamon, peppermint, and garlic) then rotate a 4th for variance and treatment efficacy. Use neem every time as well 1/4 teaspoon per gallon. Add the aloe last.

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I'm right their with you man. Anything in the mint family works great. My recipe is similar to yours with dr bronners and aloe except I use a cup of fresh rosemary blended with the water and strain plus a 1/2 tsp silica. I learned off an old cootz post that Rosemary has the highest camphor content and that the camphor bursts mite eggs. This is all hazey memory from an old post but it's always worked well for me. I'll throw any other herbs from the lamiaceae family in their I've got lying around, mint, sage or cilantro, I'm. Huge fan of biodiversity. I'll strain it with a 25 micron bubble bag if I'm in a hurry or use my Büchner funnel with #2 papers if I've got time. The free Rosemary makes it even cheaper than buying all those little essential oil bottles.
 

Humanrob

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All this overcast weather... my girls are stretching. Next week when the sun comes out I'm sure they'll start to fill out, but tall is totally not the shape I'm after. Oh well, more evidence for starting June 1st next year.

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Organja

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All this overcast weather... my girls are stretching. Next week when the sun comes out I'm sure they'll start to fill out, but tall is totally not the shape I'm after. Oh well, more evidence for starting June 1st next year.

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You going to pot up later? I use green stretch tape and binder clips and bend them bitches over.

Mine did the same thing man, ended up being like 3 ft! Hoping my tent can handle the height as they are in 12/12 now. But last month really stretched em out. But they also developed some wicked root systems!
 

Humanrob

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You going to pot up later? I use green stretch tape and binder clips and bend them bitches over.

Mine did the same thing man, ended up being like 3 ft! Hoping my tent can handle the height as they are in 12/12 now. But last month really stretched em out. But they also developed some wicked root systems!
This is my second outdoor (on my own, and at this location... I've helped other growers with their outdoor grows in the past). I'm experimenting a lot. I won't be up-potting, won't be able to, at least not with these plants. They are in SIPs, so the roots are integrated into the pot -- from the soil through the wick and down into the res. I don't think there is any way I could possibly remove them from this system to transplant without destroying them.

The clones are not stretching as much as the ones I planted from seeds. The seedlings are still in that very young hollow stem stage. I topped the tips of the center growth once, but I did not want to go lower because the primary stem (trunk?) is fat as hell and hollow, and I did not want to leave a gaping wound on the young plant. As soon as they start to get woody, I'll top them pretty hard. At least that's my plan at the moment.

My goal is to have short fat bushes, and plants that can be moved if need be. I will probably integrate tomato cages for support, but I don't want them to be tied to a location for support. We'll see how it goes. I am TOTALLY open to suggestions. :) And I do realize that given my goals, I should have started my season a month later... I was just too damn impatient! LOL gets me every time.
 

Fogdog

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Checking in from the Mid Willamette Valley. First time grower, long time vegetable gardener and so far so good. Many thanks to the helpful posters here who share so much.

I started my seedlings April 18, nursed them along under florescent lights for about a month along with natural light on good days. All organic. The garden bed is raised bed, double dug about 2 feet deep, 4 feet wide and 50 feet long, with lots of PRC compost added to it. Before putting the seedlings out, I amended the soil with commercially made organic nutrients (cottonseed meal, ground chicken feather, etc.) out of a bag and powdered oyster shell. Seedlings were put in the ground on May 18. The last picture shows the cold frame with a cover that I pull over the frame in the evening to hold in heat and remove after it warms up in the morning.

Seeds are from Oregon Green Seed, variety is Mastodon, an all indica strain (or that's what it says on their website). Started 10 seeds, all germinated. One didn't throw off the seed capsule and was culled. All the othes are doing pretty good. Nine plants in the ground and I'll cut the number down to four as soon as I can tell gender. Plant spacing is two seedlings, 1 foot apart every 4 feet and I'm hoping to have 1 plant per four feet after the cull but maybe fewer, I don't know.

I'm subbed to this thread and look forward to seeing how it works out for everybody.

I'm a new grower and here to learn. I'll be asking for advice along the way but if anybody sees anything from the pictures that I need to address, please let me know.
 

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WV: Jetson

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Welcome on board the bus, FogDog! It all looks good from here. It will be interesting to see what differences present - between your seedlings.
 

Fogdog

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Welcome on board the bus, FogDog! It all looks good from here. It will be interesting to see what differences present - between your seedlings.
Thanks, it's good to be on board sir. Just looking at your post from a few days ago, it looks like you are growing everything but Mastodon. It will be interesting indeed. I didn't have a particular reason for choosing one over the other, but I'm just a recreational grower and a newbie at that so I decided to just grow four plants of one variety. Of course I have my doubts if that was the right choice.
 

Humanrob

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Thanks, it's good to be on board sir. Just looking at your post from a few days ago, it looks like you are growing everything but Mastodon. It will be interesting indeed. I didn't have a particular reason for choosing one over the other, but I'm just a recreational grower and a newbie at that so I decided to just grow four plants of one variety. Of course I have my doubts if that was the right choice.
It's likely that there is no right or wrong, just options. Getting to know one type well is a good start. When I have several of the same strain my inner scientist wants to start experimenting on them, trying different trimming techniques or types or amounts of fertilizer, etc. Have fun with it, in the end you'll get whatever you get.

Working in limited garden space with gender uncertainty is a challenge. It's all a roll of the dice, it will be interesting to see how yours turns out. I like your plan, seems like a good one. This year I'm 90% in pots, with just two girls in the ground, and like you they are about 2' apart. If they're both girls, I'll let them fight it out, I'll leave them both in. If they're both boys, that would kind of suck, but the odds are against that (I think).

Should be an interesting ride... :)
 

WV: Jetson

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Working in limited garden space with gender uncertainty is a challenge. It's all a roll of the dice, it will be interesting to see how yours turns out. I like your plan, seems like a good one. This year I'm 90% in pots, with just two girls in the ground, and like you they are about 2' apart. If they're both girls, I'll let them fight it out, I'll leave them both in. If they're both boys, that would kind of suck, but the odds are against that (I think).

Should be an interesting ride... :)
That's why I caved and took cuts: I jus' gotta know...

Not much new in the garden; but it was a nice sunny day so I took pictures:

Donkey Kong Donkey Kong's legs
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Strawberry x Cindy's Blue Cheese
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of course I want them all to be girls - but the structure on the DK is impressive. That girl has girth in her trunk! And that purple pin striping. We'll see...

edit to add: I was just on the OGS website: she's moving down into the valley. To a larger location, more room for production, more seeds to be grown. Heck ya!
 

petert

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I'm right their with you man. Anything in the mint family works great. My recipe is similar to yours with dr bronners and aloe except I use a cup of fresh rosemary blended with the water and strain plus a 1/2 tsp silica. I learned off an old cootz post that Rosemary has the highest camphor content and that the camphor bursts mite eggs. This is all hazey memory from an old post but it's always worked well for me. I'll throw any other herbs from the lamiaceae family in their I've got lying around, mint, sage or cilantro, I'm. Huge fan of biodiversity. I'll strain it with a 25 micron bubble bag if I'm in a hurry or use my Büchner funnel with #2 papers if I've got time. The free Rosemary makes it even cheaper than buying all those little essential oil bottles.

Yeah..The oils aren't cheap! Luckily I can barter with a massage therapist friend of mine who gets essentials at a great discount. I trade my topical balms and body butters for oils, I also barter with a native buddy who runs a salmon stand here in the Columbia Gorge, I love to fish but rarely have the time anymore..He keeps me stocked with fresh salmon and steelhead.

I love bartering!!
 

Amshif87

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Yeah
Yeah..The oils aren't cheap! Luckily I can barter with a massage therapist friend of mine who gets essentials at a great discount. I trade my topical balms and body butters for oils, I also barter with a native buddy who runs a salmon stand here in the Columbia Gorge, I love to fish but rarely have the time anymore..He keeps me stocked with fresh salmon and steelhead.

I love bartering!!
I like to give the sham we call the USD as little play as possible. If only PGE bartered
 

Humanrob

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That's why I caved and took cuts: I jus' gotta know...

Not much new in the garden; but it was a nice sunny day so I took pictures:

Donkey Kong Donkey Kong's legs
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Strawberry x Cindy's Blue Cheese
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of course I want them all to be girls - but the structure on the DK is impressive. That girl has girth in her trunk! And that purple pin striping. We'll see...

edit to add: I was just on the OGS website: she's moving down into the valley. To a larger location, more room for production, more seeds to be grown. Heck ya!
Great news about OGS! If word gets out their business could be huge, I hope they can keep up with it and there is enough to go around.

If you've got a big enough crop and I have anything (from my indoor or out) that you are interested in, I'd love to trade bud-for-bud for some Donkey Kong. I've heard good things about it, and its on my short list for possibilities for next year's outdoor.
 

slow drawl

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Great news about OGS! If word gets out their business could be huge, I hope they can keep up with it and there is enough to go around.

If you've got a big enough crop and I have anything (from my indoor or out) that you are interested in, I'd love to trade bud-for-bud for some Donkey Kong. I've heard good things about it, and its on my short list for possibilities for next year's outdoor.
I've looked at her seeds for the last couple years and wanted to grow a few strains...never had them in stock.
I guess my timing was off.
 
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