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Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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TWS said:
I won't be amending or spending big bucks on super soil . Will be starting with good soil and feeding Mr B's greens trees and the soil should stay alive and sustain a good nutrient level always . This way I harvest , rip the root ball out and replant. No soil swaps, salt lock outs or hot soils or cooking time.
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Even though i was pumping up that mr B's, we know dudes who have moved on to this:
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And they say it works just as good. Just letting you know, but I personally haven't rocked the shit yet.
 
Smidge34

Smidge34

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Aeroknow said:
Even though i was pumping up that mr B's, we know dudes who have moved on to this:
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And they say it works just as good. Just letting you know, but I personally haven't rocked the shit yet.
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The ingredients list is the shit man! It and a vegging blend are available on Amazon. What are people doing, amending their soil with like a cup to the cubic ft and then top dressing later?
 
DblBrryInvestments

DblBrryInvestments

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Smidge34 said:
I've been using this one but it's expensive. Strong shit though and expensive.
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So what do you do, I'm confused......

Should I be turning my soil once a year and tossing a cup/cf, every few years, etc.?

That's where I'm lost, I don't want to throw a bunch of stuff in my soil, idk if I need to throw anything in there. This whole reusing soil is confusing lol.

The only information available about it is found in 400 pg microbial books hahaha.
 
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TWS

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DblBrryInvestments said:
So what do you do, I'm confused......

Should I be turning my soil once a year and tossing a cup/cf, every few years, etc.?

That's where I'm lost, I

DblBrryInvestments said:
So what do you do, I'm confused......

Should I be turning my soil once a year and tossing a cup/cf, every few years, etc.?

That's where I'm lost, I don't want to throw a bunch of stuff in my soil, idk if I need to throw anything in there. This whole reusing soil is confusing lol.

The only information available about it is found in 400 pg microbial books hahaha.
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It don't get much easier than reading the instructions. With sawed off autos you might want to use quarter strength.
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Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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Smidge34 said:
The ingredients list is the shit man! It and a vegging blend are available on Amazon. What are people doing, amending their soil with like a cup to the cubic ft and then top dressing later?
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Mainly top dressing. I do know this guy, he's an operator so he has all kinds of machinery to easily amend soil with, anyways, he said he mixed it into his soil at first, but he only feeds later with feeder teas. But that guy is a fucking prick and i haven't checked out his crop in a couple of years. I used to be part of his crop, and we used to pull 5lb + plants all day long, so the dude does know what he's talking about. But he's a greedy and paranoid dick, i want nothing to do with the guy anymore.
 
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BuzzD2Kill

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TWS said:
I won't be amending or spending big bucks on super soil . Will be starting with good soil and feeding Mr B's greens trees and the soil should stay alive and sustain a good nutrient level always . This way I harvest , rip the root ball out and replant. No soil swaps, salt lock outs or hot soils or cooking time.
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I did this exact thing, been watering with little bit of molasses to keep the soil alive. Plants seem to be beasting.
 
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ForeverGreen42

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TWS said:
I won't be amending or spending big bucks on super soil . Will be starting with good soil and feeding Mr B's greens trees and the soil should stay alive and sustain a good nutrient level always . This way I harvest , rip the root ball out and replant. No soil swaps, salt lock outs or hot soils or cooking time.
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So you do not amend at all?
I used botanicare and FFOF while feeding teas/beneficials year.. think I'd get better results this coming year by amending the soil and letting it cook, or just sort of till it up then reuse it?

Was just reading through Jorge Cervantes talk about recycling soil. In the book he said recycling outdoors is much less problematic, but said using "as is" practically guarantees problems with pest and disease & recommends hot composting the soil for best results. What's your opinion on this?

I also remember @Joedank recommending to amend the soil with something (can't remember what) to kill soft bodies insects/larvae
 
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Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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Smidge34 said:
The ingredients list is the shit man! It and a vegging blend are available on Amazon. What are people doing, amending their soil with like a cup to the cubic ft and then top dressing later?
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Just started using it last month, Home Depot stocks it. Which is good, b/c it's hard to find organic granule blends specifically formulated for flowering phase. For vegging I use Epsoma plant-tone, also on Amazon and HD. Sometimes I mix the 2.
Hope U have been well.!

BTW, I found and ran that old CCK strain from Dynasty. James Bean Co. still has them in stock.
 
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TWS

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ForeverGreen42 said:
So you do not amend at all?
I used botanicare and FFOF while feeding teas/beneficials year.. think I'd get better results this coming year by amending the soil and letting it cook, or just sort of till it up then reuse it?

Was just reading through Jorge Cervantes talk about recycling soil. In the book he said recycling outdoors is much less problematic, but said using "as is" practically guarantees problems with pest and disease & recommends hot composting the soil for best results. What's your opinion on this?

I also remember @Joedank recommending to amend the soil with something (can't remember what) to kill soft bodies insects/larvae
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You only need to amend your soil when you have depleted the nutrients . If you read the labels on these products they carry everything you would amend with plus mycos and bacteria. In the case of green trees as I have not read on the other product if you add once a week and the soil is never depleted and is always cooking or breaking down why would you need to amend and cook ? In essence you are constantly amending.
 
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TWS

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I don't put much faith in ole Georgie.
You can catch pest or bad bacteria anytime using Organics weather you cook in a pile or your holes/pots.
The key is to keep up on the good bacteria which greentrees has as I'm sure with the other product .
If you want to go any deeper into this read the 400 page book . Lol
 
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ForeverGreen42

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TWS said:
You only need to amend your soil when you have depleted the nutrients . If you read the labels on these products they carry everything you would amend with plus mycos and bacteria. In the case of green trees as I have not read on the other product if you add once a week and the soil is never depleted and is always cooking or breaking down why would you need to amend and cook ? In essence you are constantly amending.
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TWS said:
I don't put much faith in ole Georgie.
You can catch pest or bad bacteria anytime using Organics weather you cook in a pile or your holes/pots.
The key is to keep up on the good bacteria which greentrees has as I'm sure with the other product .
If you want to go any deeper into this read the 400 page book . Lol
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That makes sense, so essentially when using good, true organic nutrients loaded with beneficials/mycos throughout the plants life, you are constantly amending the soil/replenishing the nutrients so no point to take an extra step in actually amending the soil itself? Just trying to make sure I'm understanding correctly.
 
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