OMG - Not another "How much longer" thread - Oh yes!

[Julius Caesar]

OK, I know this forum doesn't need yet another of these threads. However, unlike some of these folks that post a photo of a 4 week plant wanting to know if it is ready, I really need some help and hopefully receive many comments and suggestions.

Skunk #1 by Sensi Seeds
Day #77 of 12/12 - 600w HPS
Temps - High 80s to 90F (I am adding a secondary intake/exhaust for the cooltube soon)
Humidity - 40% to 45%
18 days since final flush - ph water since
Sensi Seeds stated flowering time = 45 to 50 days (obviously bullshit)

The Sativa dominant phenos are fluffy and full of foxtails. The other phenos are semi-dense and seem to be more ripe - I wouldn't consider them Indica-like but they have less Sativa traits than the larger fluffier phenos. None have amber trichomes. I have some Afghani #1s in veg that I really wanted to get started, but I have plenty of space left to veg them another week if needed.

Did the high heat cause irreversible damage, retard or alter the growth - fluffiness and foxtails?
If I let this grow another week, will it keep growing/swelling and get more dense or should I just get started on the next crop?
Thanks.

Day #67 of 12/12 - Sativa dominant w/ Foxtails


Day #71 of 12/12 - Are these seeds or ovules?


Day #76 of 12/12 - This is the ripest looking plant as of now.

 

[Po boy]

the pic of the trichs show it' really close to harvest for my taste. i wait for a little amber like 10-20& amber. the trichs appear to be near 100% cloudy which is about perfect.
can't say about the heat. i grow outside in fl and it gets really hot: the plants love it but it's not like being enclosed. it's a different kind of heat.
nice grow!! GL

 

[kindnug]

I'd just say on to the next one with better ventilation or A/C if needed.
It wants to regrow because the water leaves are gone and it wants more foliage.

 

[thenotsoesoteric]

It is the heat mate, she's done as she'll get most likely. I've ran the gauntlet and heat has taken one of the best blueberry cuts I've had and made it unsmokable. The glands were nonexistent. This was one of my first valuable lessons learned.

90f will cause issues in some strains more than others. I once had a pheno of Ice by nirvana that would still give quality buds at 90f and 65 humidity without problems like mold and what not. But only the Ice has seemed to do well in high temps.

PS. yes those are seeds just starting to form.

 

[UncleBuck]

oh, dear.

 

[Julius Caesar]

oh, dear.

How about some constructive criticism.

 

[MoJobud]

I would chop as well. No point in going further. Your plants are quitting on you. They wont make the swell as I call it.

 

[Julius Caesar]

I would chop as well. No point in going further. Your plants are quitting on you. They wont make the swell as I call it.

I have noticed the calyxes swelling during the past week - quite a lot actually, but more and more leaves are withering up. The lower growth still has dark green foliage although it hasn't had any nutrients in 20 days and flushed 18 days ago. I don't know - I want to chop them so bad and get on with the next grow, but I still want to believe they have a little more swelling to do. I would like to see the trichomes go slightly amber.

So why exactly do you believe they are not going to grow or swell any further - please elaborate.

 

[dux]

I did pretty much the same thing except I also ran my dwc tub dry for day and a half(dropped it for a change and got side tracked with a phone call... Never re filled..) the buds stopped growing but did ripen.

 

[jamezsr]

i think its over done in few days you will see new leaves coming out from the buds

 

[Julius Caesar]

I decided to go ahead and start chopping 3 plants tomorrow and 3 the next day so I can go ahead and get my Afghani #1 in the flower room. I would have liked to give them a 24 hour dark cycle but I have some smaller plants in there as well that need the light. I'll post some pics of the fresh harvest and after its dried. Thanks.

 

[EZmooover]

Good idea to chop now. Your plants are starving/dying and possibly set to hermie in a big way. And yes, you have beans in those buds.

 

[Julius Caesar]

Good idea to chop now. Your plants are starving/dying and possibly set to hermie in a big way. And yes, you have beans in those buds.

I think the few seeds I have is from my Afghani #1 male I had in the flower room for a week to collect some pollen - one single sac burst before I removed it. Hopefully there are not many growing in there.

 

[EZmooover]

I don't know. Wait another week or so and you just might be able to call this a successful rodelization project...

 

[MoJobud]

So why exactly do you believe they are not going to grow or swell any further - please elaborate.

Leaf to bud ratio. Those buds will dry up. The structure is weak and will crumble. To get the most out of it you could either make wax or try to dry/cure it and it might be decent depending on which plant. Of course I am talking primarily with the weakest looking one. Without really feeling it and seeing whats going on, its hard to say. Just saying from experience, heat stressed buds produce less resin and density in buds. What gives you the weight and keeps the form is the resin in the buds. Hard vs fluffy. They should feel like golf balls swinging on a stick.

 

[UncleBuck]

How about some constructive criticism.

cut your losses, quite literally. get deep in there and remove the dead leaves. ditto with seeds, try to remove them if you can find them. do another run with the temps dialed in a bit more.

 

[Julius Caesar]

I started cutting three plants today and found some nasty ass Botrytis or some other type of mold in one of my colas. It was in the densest plant and luckily only in one small area. Probably just started in the last few days. I cut all that nasty shit out and only lost maybe 5 grams - so I caught a break. I have inspected all the others and haven't found anything else nasty yet. The humidity has been between 40% to 50% so I was surprised to find any. I guess it was the density of the bud itself and the extended flowering time. I am glad I decided to trim wet or else I would not have found it and would have probably lost the entire cola.

Moral of the story - if you don't trim wet, make sure to inspect between the clusters on your colas before you hang dry.

PS - I believe I know what caused the mold - pulling a few fan leaves from that spot and the wound weeped and molded. I'll never do that again.

 

[NoSwagBag]

Dead leaves sticking out of the buds will start/spread the rot too. May be why Buck told you to get rid of em. Sometimes dead leaves show you where the rot is.

 

[UncleBuck]

Dead leaves sticking out of the buds will start/spread the rot too. May be why Buck told you to get rid of em. Sometimes dead leaves show you where the rot is.

his leaves did not look like what i've seen when i've had botrytis. his appeared a little overcooked by heat or nutes or whatever and could just be cut out, botrytis leaves look all mushy and twisty. but you are right, dead leaves can cause botrytis.

i think with a nice manicure job and a good cure the buds will be very much so salvageable. they went long enough that they should be potent.

 

[Julius Caesar]

2 plants turned out really nice, a few ok, but one was pure trash - all fluff even in the colas. I'm going to use that entire plant for cannabutter and/or oil after it dries. I also have 12 oz of fresh frozen trim I am going to run through my bubble bags.