Omfg i may have just perfected cloning!!!!

mxyz250newb said:
Plasma > MH/MV
Plasma > HPS
MH/MV > HPS
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yes
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yes on MH for Veg. Mercury Vapor? Not even close. For bloom, HPS rocks MH. I get over 1 g/watt. Have friends who get 2 with higher yielding strains...all under Digilux HPS. Let's see your rocking bloom pics under MV and/or MH. Mine are already posted with HPS.

So, you've got it all figured out and 99% of growers are all wrong, eh? Let's see the proof, or zip it.
 
collective gardener said:
yes
yes
yes on MH for Veg. Mercury Vapor? Not even close. For bloom, HPS rocks MH. I get over 1 g/watt. Have friends who get 2 with higher yielding strains...all under Digilux HPS. Let's see your rocking bloom pics under MV and/or MH. Mine are already posted with HPS.

So, you've got it all figured out and 99% of growers are all wrong, eh? Let's see the proof, or zip it.
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I never said HPS can't grow buds, you are obviously only concerned with quantity, while I am only concerned with quality, that is why I rated the lamps that way.

I would love to take pics and show to you guys but then you will see how ghetto I really am :)

All I'm saying is that if you grow for $$$ go hps, if you grow for love you won't see a HPS in that grow :)

EDIT : Forgot to mention there are some really good high wattage MV lamps out there that are cheaaap
 
mxyz250newb said:
I never said HPS can't grow buds, you are obviously only concerned with quantity, while I am only concerned with quality, that is why I rated the lamps that way.

I would love to take pics and show to you guys but then you will see how ghetto I really am :)

All I'm saying is that if you grow for $$$ go hps, if you grow for love you won't see a HPS in that grow :)

EDIT : Forgot to mention there are some really good high wattage MV lamps out there that are cheaaap
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Still waiting for the pics.

I assure you, quality is #1 here. If it wasn't, I wouldn't be growing the low yield strains I grow. We're in Cali, do business with collectives who demand supreme product. I have pics of my gear. Again, where are these "ghetto" pics of these buds grown for "love"? If I though better quality coiuld be had with MH, I'd be all over it. Educate me.
 
All I can suggest collective gardener, is you try it for yourself , splurge on a good MH bulb (or cheap MV bulb) and try flowering with it on your favorite strain and enjoy your good nugs.

I wont be posting any pics that are my own copyrighted material since none exist :)
 
mxyz250newb said:
All I can suggest collective gardener, is you try it for yourself , splurge on a good MH bulb (or cheap MV bulb) and try flowering with it on your favorite strain and enjoy your good nugs.

I wont be posting any pics that are my own copyrighted material since none exist :)
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In the last 20 years I've tried about every light combo that exists. I have bloomed under just MH on a few occasions and was unhappy with the results. The all time best lighting combo I have used was 2 hps and 1 MH on a Sun Circle light mover. Unfortunately, this limits your canopy shapes too much to be viable for long term production. You may try a 2/1 HPS to MH settup to see some unreal near sun results. Ihave found pure MH blooming to result in under developed calyx size and excessive leaf growth. The node spacing, of course, is great, but thats more of a yield factor which you are not interested in.
 
Potency before yield, having a good yield is just a bonus.

I found HPS to be detrimental to my strain at all points in growth, is it just me with this problem? Is it just the strain? My plants are frosty ... frostier than alot of pics here i've seen under HPS, and i'm not trying to start a pissing match here i'm just saying that this was my results... keep in mind the hps bulbs are hortilux eye super hps, and the MH were plantmax 7.2k bulbs

HPS only = stunted growth in veg, budded fast but buds were airy and had no punch to them, yield was good
hps / mh only = stunted growth in veg, budded fast but same as above, just more punch, yield was good
MH only = great veg growth, budded fast with good punch and good yield

Right now my test is MH only , 3k sunpulse MH and 7.2k solarmax MH (i'm trying to see just how much better the solarmax does in comparison to cheapo plantmax bulbs, to be honest the plantmax bulbs are a GREAT performer for flowering (surprised me alot)... they just sing in the ballasts though hahaa, the solarmax bulbs dont sing

now keep in mind not all MH bulbs are created equal, which MH bulbs had you been experimenting with?

EDIT : I forgot to mention the strain i'm using came from a reallllly bad batch of herb my friend grew out, the seeds were free thats why Ive ben able to experiment and not really worry too much about the outcome, also the strain is really weak to begin with so to see them more frosted just under my cheapo plantmax bulbs than they EVER got under hps bulbs really makes me wonder what the rage with hps could be?
 
mxyz250newb said:
I never said HPS can't grow buds, you are obviously only concerned with quantity, while I am only concerned with quality, that is why I rated the lamps that way.

I would love to take pics and show to you guys but then you will see how ghetto I really am :)

All I'm saying is that if you grow for $$$ go hps, if you grow for love you won't see a HPS in that grow :)

EDIT : Forgot to mention there are some really good high wattage MV lamps out there that are cheaaap
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I grow for love and I use an HPS. Bigger yields mean better quality. MV is hella old school, if they were at all superior to HPS then people would still be using them.
 
WillyPhister said:
I grow for love and I use an HPS. Bigger yields mean better quality. MV is hella old school, if they were at all superior to HPS then people would still be using them.
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Bigger yields does not increase potency, this is why HPS still sells..... everyone wants MORE MORE MORE. I would be much happier with a plant that produces a smaller amount of something truly special, than a large amount of "decent" smoke

EDIT : I know of alot of people who left HPS in the dust, just do some googling, not everyone is sold on HPS.... Most of that energy is just turned into wasted heat by the plant LOL
 
All I have to say to that is :roll:

mxyz250newb said:
Bigger yields does not increase potency, this is why HPS still sells..... everyone wants MORE MORE MORE. I would be much happier with a plant that produces a smaller amount of something truly special, than a large amount of "decent" smoke

EDIT : I know of alot of people who left HPS in the dust, just do some googling, not everyone is sold on HPS.... Most of that energy is just turned into wasted heat by the plant LOL
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