Old roots and stems
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ShLUbY
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looks like a nice grow. what varietal were you growing?
roots go right into the recycle mix. they break down in about 4 weeks. stems can be chopped up for mulch. or they can go into the worm bin or compost pile.
What do you mean by recycle mix? Can I just compost them? I should probably mention this was NOT an organic grow, and my current one is still from the old soil, so not actually organic yet.
I will, however, be switching to organic AFTER this cycle, after building a living soil mix.
And I will likely compost the stems, as well as toss some in the worm bin, thanks.
The strains in there are: Crown Royale, OG Kush/Amnesia Haze, White Widow and Green Crack.
Here is a thread with some pics I posted, if it is of interest.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/buds-looking-normal-first-grow.986260/page-10
I will, however, be switching to organic AFTER this cycle, after building a living soil mix.
And I will likely compost the stems, as well as toss some in the worm bin, thanks.
The strains in there are: Crown Royale, OG Kush/Amnesia Haze, White Widow and Green Crack.
Here is a thread with some pics I posted, if it is of interest.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/buds-looking-normal-first-grow.986260/page-10
ShLUbY
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by recycle mix i'm was referring to when I harvest my plants, all my soil is recycled for another grow each and every time. So I just include the roots (and some amendments) and let them break down over the course of 4 weeks. after 4 weeks the mix is ready to go again for another round.
yeah you can compost your roots.
Ok, so I am planning to switch into my amended organic soil in a couple of months. After my first harvest in the organic soil, you're saying I should wait 4 weeks to use that soil again? I was planning on just reusing the soil for every grow cycle, wasn't accounting for time between to 'cook' the soil.
The plan was to have clones ready from the last batch (like I did this time), and then to transplant them into my larger tent after buds were cut and dried (again, same thing I did this time). Any ideas how to get around this 4 week waiting period?
So that’s just one root ball, eh?I feed them to my worms
Pic 1 new root ball cleaned MOST perlite removed
Pic 2 under the root ball
Pic 3 all lil roots eaten and just big worms now in ball also see the new plant growing out of the win bin
Pic four bin done and worm egss all over
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What else did you put in with it, and how long did it take?
ShLUbY
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it depends on how you're cultivating. if you're doing a no-till bed, there is no need to rest the soil. topdress some amendments, make sure you have worms in the bed and let it rip. chop and plant new same day. if you're doing containers less than 15gal each, then you'll want to break up the soil a bit, let it compost for four weeks with some amendments so everything can break down and then use it again.
no till is the way to go honestly... more work up front, but saves a ton of work over the long run.
Pa-Nature
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Thats and example bro I added 5 to 10 balls .
fruit scaps NO CITRIC ACIDs
bannana skins apples pears paper cardboard cleaned eg shells and some black soil to aid in digestion .
It takes a few months but the u have some of the best food for you plants
Makes some of the best tea .
Here is some pure extract .
Before and after mix PPM
Tea color and and nice bio sludge in the making .
Dried poo
From just 10 cups of home grown special fed worm castings
I would like to get into the no-till method, I just learned a few minutes ago that you need 15-20gallons per plant for no till.
I am in a 3x3 foot tent, growing 5 plants in 5 gallon smart pots at the moment, what would my best route for no-till be?
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So I could either fit 4 of the ten gallons, or two 10 gallon and two 15 gallons. (they are the same height)
PS- I will most likely switch to 4 plants... seems better for the space if doing no-till
I just checked the size of the 15 gallon pots, they are 20" across. The 10 gallons are 16" across.
So I could either fit 4 of the ten gallons, or two 10 gallon and two 15 gallons. (they are the same height)
PS- I will most likely switch to 4 plants... seems better for the space if doing no-till
ShLUbY
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I would make a custom no till bed just smaller than the size of you tent... so like 30x30 or 32x32 bed and 12-16 in. deep. then you can just grow all your plants in one bed! this would require you to transplant into the beds and all them to veg for another 2 weeks or more before flipping to flower so they can get established. but if that works for your grow, by all means i'd go for it!
That’s what I was thinking, but then I found this...
What do you think?
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07QGSCCQC/ref=pe_3034960_236394800_TE_3p_dp_i1
And I will be vegging for around 4 weeks probably anyways
ShLUbY
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not sure if they ship to canada or not... but if you want a prefab bed, get one from grassroots fabric pots. they have a model with "moisture lock technology" that has a material around the sides to help prevent moisture from escaping the pots. the problem with these "smart pots" is that they dry around the sides too much which inevitably makes you go through more water. These grassroots beds are the whip. Check em out.
https://www.grassrootsfabricpots.com/living-soil-pots-and-beds/
you can have them make you a custom size to fit your space for the ones with the PVC frame. or you could go for the 65gal round one. either way... small investment for a quality product that you're going to use for a long time.
https://www.grassrootsfabricpots.com/living-soil-pots-and-beds/
you can have them make you a custom size to fit your space for the ones with the PVC frame. or you could go for the 65gal round one. either way... small investment for a quality product that you're going to use for a long time.
If you can find one on amazon.ca (or another Canadian website) that is similar to the Grassroots pot, that would be amazing!
I found these ones, but I assume they are the same breathable fabric.
https://www.amazon.ca/Planting-Aeration-Container-Treatment-Eco-Friendly/dp/B01GQWL8EW/ref=sr_1_1?crid=31KMS2CYZZ7Q7&keywords=65+gallon+fabric+pots&qid=1556562522&s=gateway&sprefix=65+gallon+,aps,179&sr=8-1
https://www.amazon.ca/Hydro-Crunch-Gallons-Aeration-Container/dp/B071YYS4J6/ref=sr_1_5?crid=31KMS2CYZZ7Q7&keywords=65+gallon+fabric+pots&qid=1556562522&s=gateway&sprefix=65+gallon+,aps,179&sr=8-5
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00E4MFDSO/ref=twister_B00FRALR5U?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 (the junior version)
I also contacted grassroots, but it was going to cost $75 to get the grassroots 65 gallon pot for me from the American Amazon.
Thanks!
ShLUbY
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i mean... is 75$ really that much when it comes to growing your own cannabis? imo... nope
one time cost! But I understand if you don't want to pay 75$ for shipping lolLol it’s not, but for a $20 pot it seems excessive. Not to mention the hassle with customs if something gets messed up.i mean... is 75$ really that much when it comes to growing your own cannabis? imo... nope
I may have found a location within my province to order them from though!
Serverchris
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24/7 garden makes square 15 gallon smart pots that are 16x16.