Week4@inCharge
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If you don't know what they do just use the base and bloom for now. But do add the earth worm castings
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Gsplover11
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Yeah tjat makes sense,i can always foilar feed or teas......or top dress if i see the start of a def....foliar feed would give quickest results
Gsplover11
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Another good idea... cheers
Gsplover11
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Raisin the patrone
Week4@inCharge
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JINXSPROOF 9lb Hammer (3 days into flower)
vchavez
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Do you add extra Mg (Epson Salts) how much and how often.
Last time I reamend soil was with 2 tablespoons of Gaia Green (half of 444 and half of Bloom) per pot (3gal) I also add half tablespoon of Zeolite and half of Dolomite. But notice since 2 weeks ago two plants are light green is that overwatering or underfeeding last runoff was of this two plants 1.7 and PH was 7.0.
weedstoner420
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I would think more like 2-3 tablespoons per gallon for re-amending, especially if using small pots. You might even go as high as 4 tablespoons per gallon if the soil is really depleted of nutrients (that equates to about 2 cups per cubic foot, which is a good starting place for soil built from scratch).
Week4@inCharge
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Lot there to unfold. I know nothing about this Zeolite. I do know that Dolomite Limestone already has calcium and magnesium in it so no need for epsom salts. My guess with your situation is that there's nothing there to break down the inputs (gaia green) in the soil. In my humble opinion 3 gallon pots are way too small to incorporate a proper healthy organic grow utilizing Gaia Green amendments. And runoffs are not really a thing with organic style grows. Folks who runoff are doing so to keep the salt build up (from bottled nutrients) to a minimum. And how much of that 1.7 is from the water source alone? Coming back to organics, composting (for example) does better in large piles. vs a small one gallon pile...why... the BACTERIA is much more abundant in the larger piles. same with growing pots, larger pot, larger growth of bacteria/fungi/protozoa/etc.. that do the breakdown of the dry organic amendments (gaia green). Most likely your plants are hungry. you can help them by adding some compost/earth worm castings in the soi, until the biology of those kicks in (will take a couple weeks) foliar spray your plants with a very light solution of cal mag/liquid kelp. I use 16 ounce plastic bottled water and use the cap of them bottles to measure the inputs, that's how light you want it. then dump the water into a spray bottle and do a daily foliar spray with the stuff. In two weeks you'll be golden. And hopefully the bacteria population will be up and going by then too. If you can transplant those to fresh soil and larger pots the better. 15 gallon is considered minimum to some.
The epsom salt is a good question, i was just thinking about using some (for a diffrent reason) when I realized my other amendments have magnesium too, so hold on the brakes on that one for me. too much of one thing (magnesium) is really bad for the others (calcium).
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Stankdank0817
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Hey did you ever figure out if you had a cal/mag issue. I’m using RO water and GG and I’m having the same problem. How did you fix it?These are my 8 square one genetics GG4 x BBC on week 3 of veg in the promix + ewc + gaia green.
4x8 tent, 7 gal pots, 5x 240w quantum boards on about half power atm.
Other than the little calmag (I hope) issue that I've now (hopefully) addressed, they've been growing well and I've been happy with the progress on day 22 from first sprout. They need a defoliating but they were recently transplanted so I'm giving them a break for a couple days.
If you look close and see a white substance on some of the leaves its just diatomaceous earth, not pm
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OneHitDone
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Those plants looked like they are suffering from TOO much Light, not a nutrient issue
Week4@inCharge
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Without C02 supplementation, in my experience, 850-900 PPFD is tops before burning top leaves. I've seen huge buds grow from 700 PPFD so not overly concerned about that 850-900 number. Another thought is, yellowing, light green at the top during early flowering is assumed to be just fast growing, because of the stretching during the first three weeks of flower. I see this right when the lights come on but always midway or just before the shutdown the tops are back to normal. now If they were the same at near lights off then I'd be concerned. Again from my experiences with my grows.. your mileage may vary.
Week 3 flower Jinxsproof 9lb Hammer
Week 3 flower Jinxsproof 9lb Hammer
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vchavez
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Guys I been following the guides to top dress 1 tablespoon per galon (I have 3 galon pots using HP Promix)
also I add a 1 tablespoon of Zeolite and 1 tablespoon Dolomite per pot.
Yesterday I did a runoff test and this are the results for each pot.
3100ms = 3.1 EC
2558ms = 2.5 EC
2146ms = 2.1 EC
2384ms = 2.3 EC
1892ms = 1.8 EC
2172ms = 2.1 EC
2672ms = 2.6 EC
1270ms = 1.2 EC
1882ms = 1.8 EC
2172ms = 2.1 EC
This saturday will be their second week of flower.
They need top dress again on October 30 last top dress was on October 9.
I know PH is something not to worry with runoff with organics the PH was in the range of 7.4 to 7.8
All pots been top dress the same way my question is do I need to add more for the plants that are low on nutrients?
for example instead of using 3 tablespoons add 4 and the rest same 3 tablespoons ?
Here is a video of them so you can check them out
https://streamable.com/dj83tl
also I add a 1 tablespoon of Zeolite and 1 tablespoon Dolomite per pot.
Yesterday I did a runoff test and this are the results for each pot.
3100ms = 3.1 EC
2558ms = 2.5 EC
2146ms = 2.1 EC
2384ms = 2.3 EC
1892ms = 1.8 EC
2172ms = 2.1 EC
2672ms = 2.6 EC
1270ms = 1.2 EC
1882ms = 1.8 EC
2172ms = 2.1 EC
This saturday will be their second week of flower.
They need top dress again on October 30 last top dress was on October 9.
I know PH is something not to worry with runoff with organics the PH was in the range of 7.4 to 7.8
All pots been top dress the same way my question is do I need to add more for the plants that are low on nutrients?
for example instead of using 3 tablespoons add 4 and the rest same 3 tablespoons ?
Here is a video of them so you can check them out
https://streamable.com/dj83tl
Week4@inCharge
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I'd just read the plants on that one. But I see what your saying. Looking good by the way. If your trusting what you got going then I'd say yes to that 4 tablespoons to the gallon for the hungry ones. But, Seems high to me personally, those portions don't seem right for top dressing, they are more in line for the initial setup. one tablespoon a gallon for top dressing is what's recommended. Your plants look banger though. So what do I know.
Week4@inCharge
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Was responding to this part of your post... Maybe I got the question wrong .. what did you mean?
FmSwayze
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I'm in the same boat with a standout, that's feed greedy. I'm not increasing the amount, but the frequency. Weekly versus, bi-weekly. Perhaps you could feed her sooner. Food for thought.
vchavez
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Sounds better low on nuts but more frecuent because top dress I think is a lot !!
FmSwayze
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For sure. I'm still in progress, I'll update you with results. I'll also post in my journal.