Ocean Forest?

iv herd this question brought up a few times on the forums but never really found an answer

is foxfarm ocean forest too potent for seedlings and should it be mixed with other soil?

yes. you definatly need to mix it with a soiless mix. i use 70% sunshine#4 soilless mix and 30% foxfarm ocean forrest. and mixed a teaspoon of lime for good measure. if you use straight ocean forrest i wouldnt worry so much about the nutrients because they are organic. but its the density of ocean forrest thats no good. the roots will have a hard time breaking through all that thick potting soil where ass if you mix it with perlite or whatever.. it will lighten the mix up a bit promote nice strong roots!!!

im still on my first grow so by no means am i an expert but this is something i have actually experienced and had success with..

awsome thanks for the info

i tryed groeing twice before but with no luck
so im trying outside and hoping for the best

i here people say this all the time....i personally use ocean forest and have no problems at all planting seeds into a mix of straight ocean forest ..never burns them, I also plant my clones in it, I don't mix it down at all, but I don't feed for 2 weeks, just water.....works great, i love it...........but I still here people say it's to strong for seedlings and new clones all the time..I have not had this ever...but still be careful

Ive never had problems with it myself

If you have the option, start the seedlings and clones in the FF light warrior. I have had great success with it.

000420 said:

i here people say this all the time....i personally use ocean forest and have no problems at all planting seeds into a mix of straight ocean forest ..never burns them, I also plant my clones in it, I don't mix it down at all, but I don't feed for 2 weeks, just water.....works great, i love it...........but I still here people say it's to strong for seedlings and new clones all the time..I have not had this ever...but still be careful

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I do the same thing. No problems at all. Highly recommend ocean forest soil!!!

I have been using OF for the past 4years or so. I have never had a burn problem on seedlings or new clones. I will feed my clones right from the start with a light dose of nutes and never get burn. A lighter soil would be better for seedlings/clones, but not required. Especially if you always have a bag or two of OF laying around.

I've started quite a few seeds in FFOF without problems. To say a seed can't grow in FFOF is like saying a seed or plant can't survive in fertile soil.

I do all my seedlings in 50/50 mix of FFOF and FF Happy Frog.. never had a burn, only happy plants

blahblahblah123 said:

I do all my seedlings in 50/50 mix of FFOF and FF Happy Frog.. never had a burn, only happy plants

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I am using this mix as well for the first time and I am having nothing but problems with it and I mixed in a shit load of perlite. Check my sig to see proof. Im not bagging FF I want it to work I just don't know what it is I am doing wrong.

Here is a Jack Herer, day 5 from seed, Ocean Forest under a 200w cfl in a DR120W

There is another one right behind this one and hopefully 2 more should pop tomorrow morning.

akgrown said:

I am using this mix as well for the first time and I am having nothing but problems with it and I mixed in a shit load of perlite. Check my sig to see proof. Im not bagging FF I want it to work I just don't know what it is I am doing wrong.

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That is because happy frog is shit soil. There have been a lot of people over watering using the happy frog because it holds moisture much more than the OF.

I<M on my first grow with ocean forest also. Granted i,m in experianced but my seeds and clone started well in it but now that they are big i wish I had mixed some perlite in it to drain faster and allow for more gas exchange in the soil. I have heard that people have found grubs in it and spiter mites because it isnt sterilized .Frankly I wish I knew what soil was best.

Here are a few pics of some seeds that for some reason would not germinate, they were in wet paper towels for almost a week. I decided to give them a chance and threw them in some FFOF yesterday, these are less than 24 hours old under a 200w CFL with 6.5 ph level water

definitely FFOF for early on. I can say that Happy Frog is all dense and cakey like. I don't know how to explain it. I personally like Ocean Forest vs HF. But then again, I'm over soil and moved to coco

ive used ffof for 3 years for clones and seedlings and never had any probs.i think if you over water the soil it could burn them a little its pretty hot soil as far as nutrients go.