Occupy Mainstreet, HOLY SHIT!

Winter Woman

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I do. We have a place upnorth that we go to as much as possible. I most certainly will not put my home location on here.

Edit: I don't live in the D. My hubby, has run a small company in the D for over 3 decades, right in the heart of it. I do and have lived near and around the D all my life.
I'd go live in the woods before I moved there. The D is the arm pit of America. Once again, I've seen it all, and I think it is more than you have witnessed.

Baby selling.
Stabbings.
Beatings.
Prostitution of minors.
Murder. I didn't see this one my hubby was standing next to the man that was just standing in line at a gas station and a shooter came in, my hubby took one BIG step back and he shot at the gas station attendant, he missed and shot the man standing next to my husband in the throat. If my husband hadn't taken that one step back...

Edit: Edit: lol. If you're going to pull the race care, then... I'd like to tell you that every time we were robbed it was at the hands of a black man. The black women (generally nurses) I know tell me that they cross the street when they see a droopy panted black youth. soooo.
 

Winter Woman

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I'd like to invite you to visit the D. I can and will pay for you to stay at a nice hotel, right near downtown. It will help you understand what we here already know.
yeah sorry couldnt help it, just you said you lived in "the D" your whole life.
 

hammer21

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Torch Lake is great just got back been up there for the color show for 2 weeks (changing of the leaves)
 

Winter Woman

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Awww, now I'm jealous. I love it there. Did you go to Dead Man's Hill? The view must be fabulous from there this time of year.

If you've been to Alden then you know that Fudgies are called, Cone Lickers there. lol Almost sounds dirty.
Torch Lake is great just got back been up there for the color show for 2 weeks (changing of the leaves)
 

Winter Woman

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I'm not sure but a lot of stars have made purchases in the area. The movie industry helped that. I know of a record producer that lives in Harbor Springs full-time now. He left LA behind he said it was better for his sons to be raised here.
 

deprave

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A lot of these protest are at federal reserves and thats very promising. Libertarians really need to get out to these occupy movements because we can teach the people about liberty and the truth and make this movement more effective.

The corporate media are trying to make it about them, the unions are trying to make it about them, and as mentioned the media matters and moveon.org crap and even commies are trying to make it about them. What I am hearing on the alternative media and from people at the protest is that right now its purely grass roots its just these organizations are trying to make it about them.

The objectives of the protest are VERY simple actually, which makes it why its obvious to me that the corporate media and all these groups I named are simply trying to make it about them. The clear goals that would solve everyones frustrations can be summed up in 2 words. Corporatism and Militarism.

1) Stop the corporatism (Specific Examples: The Financial Crisis - The crooks, SuperPACS which as of 2010 allow unions and corporations to contribute unlimited money into politics - corporations now have more rights then people - Big problem)

2) Stop the Militarism (Examples: End the wars and start following the constitution)

These are humanitarian objectives I think everyone can agree on and solve a lot of our issues. There you go, the 99%.


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Winter Woman, Your stories are all too common and yes its sad the police don't really give a rats ass, If you go to file a report even after being robbed by a gunman you will be greeted with a cup of water and a hotlamp while they interogate you and try to come up with something to charge YOU for, well it is there job you know, to charge people with crimes, its not to protect you, no matter how they see it as such, they are only mobile secretaries for the state who show up after the fact and then charge people with crimes.

Its experiences like this that molded me into the libertarian I have become. Its growing up in michigan for the past 30 years. I think all of us that 35 are this way in a sense, we are raised that the government instills fear in us and to the fear the police, if you remember we had columbine and this caused a constant police presence at our public school.

I was talking to murf about this a few hours ago, the liberals/democrats today just aren't humanitarian at all, they have wandered so far from the classic liberal, they are like a bunch of zombies. I am a left leaning libertarian myself and I have a very difficult time relating to the liberals at all, they are very distant from my views and I feel a better connection with so called conservatives, at least we share the same values and the principle of liberty.
 
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