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misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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Your phrasing was that in order to legalize marijuana the IL constitution would have to be re-written, . You also said that the subject has never come up. Both counts are wrong. If there is another bill coming up, the IL congress would vote in the Spring, see how they voted in May last time? Congress doesn't vote on things at the same time as general elections.

I imagine it will come up again, I'm guessing this year, expecially if Obama stops the DEA from raiding treatment facilities and he said yesterday that he would.

Think happy thoughts, if everyone is always so negative and saying it'll never happen, how do you expect to get anywhere?
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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VTXDave said:
Careful there my friend...Us Libertarians are not looked well upon in these waters by some. :)
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The ideas Libertarians espouse are frightening to most Americans these days. I mean, can you imagine absolute freedom and liberty? Zoweee! That's some scary stuff, right there. :lol:

Vi
 
joepro

joepro

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misshestermoffitt said:
Your phrasing was that in order to legalize marijuana the IL constitution would have to be re-written, . You also said that the subject has never come up. Both counts are wrong. If there is another bill coming up, the IL congress would vote in the Spring, see how they voted in May last time? Congress doesn't vote on things at the same time as general elections.

I imagine it will come up again, I'm guessing this year, expecially if Obama stops the DEA from raiding treatment facilities and he said yesterday that he would.

Think happy thoughts, if everyone is always so negative and saying it'll never happen, how do you expect to get anywhere?
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I can't give you a link on something that wasn't talked about.

The tried referendum was ONLY about the governor.
The IL house can't pass something already on the books:o...
(medical passed in 1978.)
The revisit of said amendment of the IL constitution is the only way.
wish I could link you to that amendment.
The way it is worded, the whole thing need to be rewritin
and in fact just toss out that amendment, it's only made it harder.
Our fight isn't like other states trying to get reform on the books.
...more like trying to increase federal MMJ stamps.
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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Medical marijuana hasn't passed in IL. California was the first state to pass medical marijuana and that was just 10 years ago. I think you are confused.
 
joepro

joepro

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misshestermoffitt said:
Medical marijuana hasn't passed in IL.
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Oh, I understand your position now.
You didn't know....
I found it,you need to double rep me dude.what a pain in the ass that was.:-P
Cannabis Control Act. 720 ILCS 550/
Section 11 :Illinois patients who use mj as medicine are legally protected by the Cannabis Control Act.
720 ILCS 550/      Cannabis Control Act. - Illinois Chapter 720 Criminal Offenses - Illinois Code :: Justia



http://www.senatorcullerton.com/Press/2006/Sun Times -- Time for Legislature to pass medical marijana.pdf
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The bill, introduced by Sen. John Cullerton (D-Chicago) and co-sponsored by Senators Kwame Raoul
(D-Chicago) and Iris Martinez (D-Chicago), would allow medically ill patients to obtain marijuana -- cannabis --
for medicinal use with the recommendation of their doctor. Illinois led this effort in 1978 when it became the
second state to pass a Cannabis Control Act permitting limited medical use. That law was never fully
implemented, and administrative rules to guide implementation are lacking.
Medicinal use of cannabis has a history dating back thousands of years. Today patients use it for a variety of
serious and debilitating medical conditions: to stimulate appetite in cancer and AIDS; to relieve nausea and
vomiting from chemotherapy; to alleviate the chronic pain and muscle spasticity of multiple sclerosis; to reduce
intraocular pressure in glaucoma, and for many other medical conditions, including some involving anxiety and
mood disturbances. There is no reason to subject such patients to criminal prosecution for cannabis use if their
doctor believes it will help them.​
California passed the first effective medical cannabis law in 1996, and 11 states have similar statutes.
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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"That law was never fully
implemented, and administrative rules to guide implementation are lacking."

I know cancer patients with doctors 'scripts for marijuana in IL, but they can't get it without buying it on the street and risking jail. If you look up states with medical marijuana laws Ill is not one of them. Check the Norml website.

Is this
720*ILCS*550/******Cannabis Control Act. - Illinois Chapter 720 Criminal Offenses - Illinois Code :: Justia

a current bill? It doesn't say the date anywhere, I hope this is up for vote this spring.
 
joepro

joepro

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misshestermoffitt said:
"That law was never fully
implemented, and administrative rules to guide implementation are lacking."

I know cancer patients with doctors 'scripts for marijuana in IL, but they can't get it without buying it on the street and risking jail. If you look up states with medical marijuana laws Ill is not one of them. Check the Norml website.
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That why it needs to be scrapped.
It's very hard to reform an already bill. Like showing cause
instead of floating it inside of another bill
If you read the whole CCA link, it's a total contradiction.
It's no accident, these slick fucks are something eles..
Like not using the word hemp in the federal bann.


I didn't know IL has MMJ for cancer patients? some good news.:clap:
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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There is no MMJ for cancer patients in IL, there are doctors writing the scripts hoping they will eventually be recognized. If the person is caught with marijuana the doctors script doesn't mean shit. It's still a crime and they still get reamed.
 
joepro

joepro

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misshestermoffitt said:
There is no MMJ for cancer patients in IL, there are doctors writing the scripts hoping they will eventually be recognized. If the person is caught with marijuana the doctors script doesn't mean shit. It's still a crime and they still get reamed.
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I read your post wrong:wall: here I thought i'd go out get some cancer.
good thing
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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Obama is going to change things after he takes office so the DEA won't go after med states anymore. Once that happens more states will get on board. Since the IL senate almost passed medical marijuana last year, it might get through this year.
 
joepro

joepro

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misshestermoffitt said:
Obama is going to change things after he takes office so the DEA won't go after med states anymore. Once that happens more states will get on board. Since the IL senate almost passed medical marijuana last year, it might get through this year.
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you had to say it.
pass what? reform? that's not how it works.
omg did we not just go back to start?




please lock this thread
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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THis is the news article that I posted earlier about the IL senate voting on medical marijuana last year.

IL Senate Votes No On Medical Marijuana Bill


The Illinois State Senate voted against SB650, that would have allowed some patients in Illinois to have access to medical marijuana. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported on May 11, 2007 ("Illinois Senate Votes Down Medical Marijuana Bill") that "The Illinois Senate, by a narrow 22-29 vote, turned down a bill that would have allowed doctors to prescribe the drug to patients suffering from painful, debilitating conditions such as cancer, multiple sclerosis or epilepsy. 'This is disappointing,' said Sen. John Cullerton, D-Chicago, the sponsor of the bill. 'I don't think people realize how popular this is in their districts. This is overwhelmingly supported.' Only one Republican, Sen. Dave Syverson, R-Rockford, voted for the bill, while 21 of the 37 Democrats voted for it."
According to the Post-Dispatch, "Much of the testimony in committee and debate on the Senate floor revolved around personal stories of chronically ill patients who illegally use marijuana to relieve their pain. 'I don't think sick people should be treated like criminals,' said Sen. Mike Jacobs, D-Moline. 'This is a choice a doctor ought to have' if there's demonstrated benefits of the drug for patients. Cullerton said he would keep working to get a similar bill passed before the Senate is scheduled to adjourn at the end of the month. Only 29 senators — less than half — voted against the bill. Persuading the four senators who voted present and the four who did not vote would give Cullerton the 30 votes needed for the bill to pass."


It almost squeaked past in 2007, that is last year.​
 
joepro

joepro

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Senator John J. Cullerton,hopes to change the amendment 720/550: the Cannabis
Control Act, to allow more qualifying persons diagnosed with certain debilitating
medical conditions, to grow 12 cannabis plants indoors and have possession of
2.5 ounces of usable marijuana. SB 650 also allows any person over 18 years or
older called a “primary caregiver” to grow 12 cannabis plants indoors for each
of up to three qualifying persons (or 36 plants) and have 7.5 ounces of usable
marijuana in his/her possession. Provides for a “registry identification card”
for each “patient” and for each “primary caregiver” to grow marijuana and to​

possess the marijuana even in public and even in a car.


ok, your right and I'm wrong.
it's over.
 
dvsdsm

dvsdsm

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Yall let me know how that goes in IL, could be setup already flowering clones next to midway in under 4 days ;)
 
misshestermoffitt

misshestermoffitt

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You live near Midway? Those planes coming down over the buildings like that freaks me out, I'm from the sticks, you just don't see that around here.
 
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