Obamacare: Freedom on life support ...

Man o' the green

Active Member
You ever heard of Social Security?
Yes, it's unconstitutional.

"The constitutional basis of the Social Security Act was uncertain. The basic problem is that under the "reserve clause" of the Constitution (the 10th Amendment) powers not specifically granted to the federal government are reserved for the States or the people. When the federal government seeks to expand its influence in new areas it must find some basis in the Constitution to justify its action. Obviously, the Constitution did not specifically mention the operation of a social insurance system as a power granted to the federal government! The Committee on Economic Security (CES) struggled with this and was unsure whether to claim the commerce clause or the broad power to levy taxes and expend funds to "provide for the general welfare," as the basis for the programs in the Act."

The supreme court struck down several social programs before FDR intimidated the SCOTUS to uphold his new deal policies. A reprehensible act considering the separation of powers. FDR was a dictator, the only way was by running over the constitution. The fact that he conducted the war well does not excuse him.
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
States rights are just part of the system of checks and balances. The Federal Gob' ment got all dey power. Ever heard of supremacy?
 

Man o' the green

Active Member
The Federal Gob' ment got all dey power. Ever heard of supremacy?
Yes, that is tyranny.
"Federal Mandate" means nothing without the support of the constitution.
I will try again :
The federal government ONLY has the ability to make laws that are in article 1 section 8 of the constitution that are not in conflict with section 9 or amendments. All other rights are left to the states or the people. This is basic constitutional law, not popular belief.
The supremacy clause ( section 6 ) ONLY states that CONSTITUTIONAL federal laws must be obeyed by the states.
 

moobyghost

Active Member
Barack Obama has already gotten my vote in next election.
I probably will vote for him again, but the reps and and elitist reps, oh I mean tea baggers (oh the irony) , are already trying to kill the chance of a second term. Nothing but false information and fear mongering the whole time Obama has been in office.

Being a one term pres is fine though as long as he keeps his cool and keeps getting shit done.

The only sure fire way he will win is if Palin and Michelle Bachman run together. The country would implode under that much stupidity.
 

maxamus1

Well-Known Member
glad to see nothing has changed. all the Obama lovers still want everything handed to them so they don't have to break a sweat, or do anything involving work. while bashing everyone who wants more control of their lives and to live the way they want.
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
lol IDK where all this hatred is from. Who said anything about free stuff? What has Obama handed out so far? Cause I haven't gotten shit from my government. And I do pay taxes every week out of my my pay check.
 

dukeofbaja

New Member
This is all too funny. Someone who doesn't know the difference between rolls and roles preaching to others about the constitutionality of universal health care. Whatever floats your boat, I guess.

And others talking about how GA is challenging this pitiful attempt at reform despite the fact that it will cost the tax payers mucho dinero and end in inevitable defeat. Way to go, you fucking fool. What are you smoking down in GA?

Like it or not, you should insure your health, just like you insure your home and your car. Funny enough, a republican was the first to introduce this type of bill. He called it socially responsible. Can any one of you show me where you were shouting about this back then? Or was it OK that the state was forcing you to buy something you 'did not want', and not the fed gov?

Polls are showing that the landslide Limbaugh and Hannity were predicting will not materialize. The tea party will split the right, leaving the left to run the show. I still predict fairly substantial repub gains in November, but 2012 is Obama v 2.0
 
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