Obama wants to Raise Taxes, Good or Bad for the Economy?

Harrekin · Oct 28, 2013

see4 said:
Not really. It's not. It's as acceptable as the word, antidisestablishmentarianism. Yea, it's a word, but really it's pointless. Teenagers who play Dungeons and Dragons use the word moar. And even then its not really a word.

You see, the word "more" is an ACTUAL word, whereas "moar" is a coined term, like "Tweet" or "google". Yes, those words will likely make their way to the dictionary. But "moar", I have my doubts. Just as I have my doubts you will make it very far in life.

P.S. Tell your mom I said hi. Bitch still owes me $50.

What's your obsession with people's moms?

Did yours touch you inappropriately or something?

see4 · Oct 28, 2013

tokeprep said:
What huge tax increase? Clinton's tax increase had little effect on the average effective rate.

A top statutory tax rate of 92%. The average effective rate was substantially lower than 92%. The only meaningful rate is the effective rate because it's the one people actually paid. The statutory rate means nothing.

When Clinton left office and Bush took over, we had a budget surplus of 128 billion, with tax revenue at 1.9 trillion. When Bush left office, we have a budget deficit of 1.4 trillion with tax revenue of 2.2 trillion.

Effective tax was steadily higher and increased over Clinton's tenure. 1993 tax revenue was 1.2 trillion, by 2001, it was 1.9 trillion.

It would be nice for once, that when you opened your mouth, you would actually say something that was accurate and made sense.

see4 · Oct 28, 2013

Harrekin said:
What's your obsession with people's moms?

Did yours touch you inappropriately or something?

Good comeback bro! Did your little brother teach you that? I bet you spent the past 30 minutes coming up with that. You wrote it out on a chalkboard, learned how to spell "inappropriately", and then exclaimed, "I got it! I will zing him with this!"

C'mon bro, admit it, thats how it went down. You don't gots to lie homey.

But if you must know, yes, your mom does touch me inappropriately. But I like it. So its all good.

see4 · Oct 28, 2013

Harrekin said:
MOAR is a perfectly accepted term.

Now you sir, go suck a pee-nus.

Harrekin said:
What's your obsession with people's moms?

Did yours touch you inappropriately or something?

No. But clearly you have an obsession with penis. To each their own I suppose.

Harrekin · Oct 28, 2013

see4 said:
No. But clearly you have an obsession with penis. To each their own I suppose.

Meh, even Buck is more entertaining than you.

You type so many words, yet fuck all content.

You can go on the tl;dr list.

see4 · Oct 28, 2013

Harrekin said:
Meh, even Buck is more entertaining than you.

You type so many words, yet fuck all content.

You can go on the tl;dr list.

I suppose 15 words is tough for a simpleton. Good luck in life. And don't forget to lift the fry basket out when the machine starts beeping!

tokeprep · Oct 28, 2013

see4 said:
When Clinton left office and Bush took over, we had a budget surplus of 128 billion, with tax revenue at 1.9 trillion. When Bush left office, we have a budget deficit of 1.4 trillion with tax revenue of 2.2 trillion.

Effective tax was steadily higher and increased over Clinton's tenure. 1993 tax revenue was 1.2 trillion, by 2001, it was 1.9 trillion.

You're comparing federal tax revenue in the last year of a substantial economic bubble to federal tax revenue in the year of a major economic crisis. Obviously your comparison is flawed. With the collapse of the tech bubble and the 9/11 terrorist attacks, revenue ultimately dipped back to $1.8 trillion, after peaking at more than $2 trillion, then rebounded to a peak of $2.6 trillion, and then dipped down to $2.1 trillion.

Clinton's surplus was going to disappear no matter what; the financial crisis and the future deficit was going to happen no matter what. That's the nature of economic bubbles--they pop.

It would be nice for once, that when you opened your mouth, you would actually say something that was accurate and made sense.

You ought to take your own advice.

echelon1k1 · Oct 28, 2013

see4 said:
And don't forget to lift the fry basket out when the machine starts beeping!

How many times were you told before you got it right?

see4 · Oct 28, 2013

echelon1k1 said:
how many times were you told before you got it right?

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ginwilly · Oct 28, 2013

see4 said:
When Clinton left office and Bush took over, we had a budget surplus of 128 billion, with tax revenue at 1.9 trillion. When Bush left office, we have a budget deficit of 1.4 trillion with tax revenue of 2.2 trillion.

Effective tax was steadily higher and increased over Clinton's tenure. 1993 tax revenue was 1.2 trillion, by 2001, it was 1.9 trillion.

It would be nice for once, that when you opened your mouth, you would actually say something that was accurate and made sense.

How much of the revenue increase do you credit to the tech boom? How much credit does the welfare reform deserve? How much did Clinton increase taxes after the Omnibus bill in 93? Did the Tax Payer Relief bill 97 lower or raise taxes? Are you going to answer any of these questions or just call me names too?

beenthere · Oct 28, 2013

see4 said:
When Clinton left office and Bush took over, we had a budget surplus of 128 billion, with tax revenue at 1.9 trillion. When Bush left office, we have a budget deficit of 1.4 trillion with tax revenue of 2.2 trillion.

Effective tax was steadily higher and increased over Clinton's tenure. 1993 tax revenue was 1.2 trillion, by 2001, it was 1.9 trillion.

It would be nice for once, that when you opened your mouth, you would actually say something that was accurate and made sense.

Are you saying taxes were raised under the Clinton administration and economic growth followed, is that your final answer?

see4 · Oct 28, 2013

beenthere said:
Are you saying taxes were raised under the Clinton administration and economic growth followed, is that your final answer?

Not at all. I am merely providing you with factual evidence that "effective tax" was in fact slightly higher. Which was a direct conflict with what was mentioned earlier by Faux News rhetoric.

Take it as you will bro. No skin off my back.

Doer · Oct 28, 2013

Jack Harer said:
Yeah..........I don't have a way here, other than the desire to leave pre-school back where I left it.

OH...one parting gift. it's MORE not MOAR!! Lernt that one in 4th.

The last refuge for the weak. Call out the TUYPPO police.

Doer · Oct 28, 2013

see4 said:
Not at all. I am merely providing you with factual evidence that "effective tax" was in fact slightly higher. Which was a direct conflict with what was mentioned earlier by Faux News rhetoric.

Take it as you will bro. No skin off my back.

You actually provide nothing but unreferenced, partisan claims. Alll Newz-Jokes are the same. You just are blind to it.

ginwilly · Oct 28, 2013

see4 said:
Not at all. I am merely providing you with factual evidence that "effective tax" was in fact slightly higher. Which was a direct conflict with what was mentioned earlier by Faux News rhetoric.

Take it as you will bro. No skin off my back.

In 97, Clinton lowered captial gains taxes from 28% to 20% and revenues went up. Kind of a liberal mind blow isn't it. He also increased the death tax exemption, instituted Roth IRAs and increased our IRA deductions which in fact LOWER effective tax rates.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/charles...ous-myth-about-the-bill-clinton-tax-increase/

your factual evidence you posted is fascinating though

see4 · Oct 28, 2013

Doer said:
You actually provide nothing but unreferenced, partisan claims. Alll Newz-Jokes are the same. You just are blind to it.

Funny, I mentioned the same thing to your mom last night, "bitch you are blind to it!", she said, "damnit! i know, your jizz keeps splashing in my face!"

see4 · Oct 28, 2013

ginwilly said:
In 97, Clinton lowered captial gains taxes from 28% to 20% and revenues went up. Kind of a liberal mind blow isn't it. He also increased the death tax exemption, instituted Roth IRAs and increased our IRA deductions which in fact LOWER effective tax rates.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/charles...ous-myth-about-the-bill-clinton-tax-increase/

your factual evidence you posted is fascinating though

Bush lowered taxes and revenue went down. What is your point?

Also.. once again, you are citing a far right leaning news organization. And that is an opinion article you just cited.

Try citing Reuters or AP.

beenthere · Oct 28, 2013

see4 said:
When Clinton left office and Bush took over, we had a budget surplus of 128 billion, with tax revenue at 1.9 trillion. When Bush left office, we have a budget deficit of 1.4 trillion with tax revenue of 2.2 trillion.

Effective tax was steadily higher and increased over Clinton's tenure. 1993 tax revenue was 1.2 trillion, by 2001, it was 1.9 trillion.

It would be nice for once, that when you opened your mouth, you would actually say something that was accurate and made sense.

beenthere said:
Are you saying taxes were raised under the Clinton administration and economic growth followed, is that your final answer?

see4 said:
Not at all. I am merely providing you with factual evidence that "effective tax" was in fact slightly higher. Which was a direct conflict with what was mentioned earlier by Faux News rhetoric.

Take it as you will bro. No skin off my back.

Nah, I read your quote again. You are claiming that Clinton steadily raised effective tax rates (which is a false statement) therefore he ended up with a budget surplus, your quote is staring me in the face.

Would it be accurate to say that the economy picked up after Clinton lowered taxes on investors and businesses?

abandonconflict · Oct 28, 2013

Clinton cut military spending.

beenthere · Oct 28, 2013

abandonconflict said:
Clinton cut military spending.

Clinton reformed welfare!

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