Oasis's First Autoflower / Lowryder grow 4ft 6bulb T5

Hey, this is my first grow in a small space. I am growing:
World Of Seeds Afghan Kush Ryder LowLife's Auto AK-47
Lemon G13 bagseed
and one mid grade bagseed i am going to grow and experiment on(top,supercrop and such).


Using Ocean Forest soil in two gallon bags, three gallon bags for the lemon G13 and Middy Seed .For lighting I am using a six tube four foot T5 fixture putting out about 16000 Lumens using full spectrum T5 tubes. Plants have been growing for a week now, (pictures to come soon)

need advice on watering and what type of nutes to use. Also, would a straight 24 hour light schedule hurt an autoflower or should i give a four hour dark period? I was also thinking of going scrog on this, please let me know what you think...

Plants are about 14 days old. just found out that there was a shipping screw up with the with the afghan kush ryders from the morons at world of seeds---So it looks as though I could have anything that world of seeds produces.....



What i have decided to do is to switch the plants over to 12/12 next week(minus the auto AK-47) at the 21 day mark of the plants poking through the soil. Hopefully from there i can bloom 8 weeks and see where i stand. Ultimate goal is a good acuurately ripened harvest by the first week of Oct. PLease let me know what your thoughts are...


One of my planty has some sort of yellowing going on....any ideas? I havn't gave them any nutes yet. wondering what specificaly needs to be fixed.

AWESOME!!! glad to see all of the feedback....

anyway

just switched plants over to 12 dark/12 light. getting a camera so i will be able to post better pics.

was thinking about 13 dark 11 light. i have read that it speeds up the flower cycle and doesn't really effect yield.

Why are you going with less than 18 hours light when you've got autoflowers? The best light schedules for them are around 20/4 and 18/6.

Anonononymous said:

Why are you going with less than 18 hours light when you've got autoflowers? The best light schedules for them are around 20/4 and 18/6.

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AK-47 Autoflower is on separate cycle. i just move the the autoflower away from the others and pop it under some cfl's until i can switch back.

The others were supposed to be autoflowers but aren't. World of seeds botched their shipments as far as the Afghan kush ryders go.

Are you gonna flower w/ the t5's? The 3K tubes I've seen have put out some serious nugget. They seen taller and thinner, but way frostier.

I can't wait for more pics and sorry on the botch from WOS. btw.. attitude seeds sells WOS and they aren't known for botching too often..

Plants are on 13 dark 11 light---I'm thinking about using the tubes for all of the flowering, I am also looking into a 1000w hps.

Only reason i am looking into the hps is because I am no longer dealing with autoflowers like i originally thought. I'm worried that the plants will get too tall for the light to effectively penetrate from the T5 unless i scrog it or something???
I still kind of want to use the T5 anyway just to see what happens..........

Yeah, I have heard good things about the attitude seedbank and i'm definitely gonna check them out at some point.

pics up in next couple of days.

I think you would have fine light penetretion if you lst around the lip a bit and / or ScrOG. I use floros in a MUCH smaller space, but penetration is something I work very hard for with lst and pruning. Are your t5s 5k or 3k? The pics I have seen of nugs from 3k t5s alone have been nothing short of impressive. Less need for cooling, too.

HAHA payday---new camera tonight = New pics.

I'm going to scrog this weekend and use the fluorescent tubes the whole way. two tubes in the middle are the 3k ones the other four are "full spectrum" tubes. I do not know the details anymore as the wife threw all of the boxes away weeks ago. Yea I hear that the 3k ones alone are nice-i'm curious to see what these full spectrum ones bring to the table. They were 16 bones a pop so i hope they work well.

Over watered a tad. Two plants have a slight case of the droops. I know it was overwatering. Using Fox farm Tiger Bloom at 1/4 strength and and whatever the one with bat guano and worm castings is.(Big Bloom?) at full strength.

It would be easier if i had the same strain across the board since some strains are more/less resistant to certain things while others are not. But thanks to my "What The Fuck Ryders" from WOS I have no idea what strains they are and each plant is acting differently to watering/nutes. It sucks having to tweak and adjust this much especially for my first grow but i guess that's part of the learning process.

Auto AK Fem is starting to show me her lady parts i think.......(what a little slut)
I'll have to get me magnifying glass and do a lil research.

oasis515 said:

Auto AK Fem is starting to show me her lady parts i think.......(what a little slut)
I'll have to get me magnifying glass and do a lil research.

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Checked but still a little too early for her to be flashing her lady parts 8-(

when are preflowers supposed to pop on auto's?

Auto AK is absolutely floweing now. I can see a few pistils coming from several sites. so i guess 4 weeks and it'll be good to go?

Over watering issue seems to be fixing itself. The plants i half drowned were a bit more perky last night and definately look better this morning. some of the leaves that were really droopy are still droopy although less. i'm still waiting a long while to water these, like 5 more days...maybe longer. I think i'm going to give extra low doses of nutes and a shot of molasses(the organic boot strap kind or whateve its called) the next time i do add water.
I'm probably going to water the ones that are not over soaked in about two days. ph is 6.4-6.5 range.

had to get a new fan and a couple of lowering chains for my fixture- i had the fixture propped up on various things at different levels of plant height. Couldn't go any higher withoout it looking like it was possibly going to fall so i had to upgrade. I guess i'm waiting for the WTF Ryders to show sex. I'm hoping i get a few more girls. I know i have dogged WOS a bit since they sent me the wrong things that i paid for with good money i earned, but i have heard that besides this mistake they are a good breeder and make some nice plants.

Getting camera today

Yeah.. they have strong genetics, for sure. A good rule of timing with autos is 10 weeks, seed to harvest. My Auto White Russians and Auto Hindu Kush showed hairs at maybe 2 1/2 weeks old. The males showed at about 1 1/2 and got MASSIVE fast. You will be shocked at the rate with which the autos take off. If you've never grown pot before, it won't be that amazing, but believe me.. after growing 2 10 week strains in a computer case, the 7 week flower is pretty awesome.

Just make sure you don't whack it too early, as the THC content is slightly reduced w/ ruderalis. let the CRYSTALS become a little amber.. not just the hairs. You'll look at it and it'll look like it needs a bath.. like it's got dirt all over it. It'll also look like it's starting to die. THEN, chop it. You'll be stoned as hell.

ElephantRider said:

Yeah.. they have strong genetics, for sure. A good rule of timing with autos is 10 weeks, seed to harvest. My Auto White Russians and Auto Hindu Kush showed hairs at maybe 2 1/2 weeks old. The males showed at about 1 1/2 and got MASSIVE fast. You will be shocked at the rate with which the autos take off. If you've never grown pot before, it won't be that amazing, but believe me.. after growing 2 10 week strains in a computer case, the 7 week flower is pretty awesome.

Just make sure you don't whack it too early, as the THC content is slightly reduced w/ ruderalis. let the CRYSTALS become a little amber.. not just the hairs. You'll look at it and it'll look like it needs a bath.. like it's got dirt all over it. It'll also look like it's starting to die. THEN, chop it. You'll be stoned as hell.

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Wordage.... thanks for the tip. I'm going to wait untill she looks "rusty" seems to be the thing to do.

I SWEAR pics are coming in the next day or two- bill situation had to be dealt with before i drop money on a camera.

My auto ak is13 inches high and super branchy. I toppoed it early on thinking it was anoter plant (i'm a jackass) and it has two big midddle colas. It also smells like piss??

SO i now have a digital camera.

Out of the plants i started with, the auto AK-47 from Lowlife was the only auto flower that actually was an auto flower. Out of the others i only ended up with three females. The famales are from the WOS "WTF" Ryder pack. They are some random WOS strains No idea as to which exactly.

I know a lot of people thought this was a bogus thread due to no pics. I get it.
hopefully this will generate some interest.

Here are the pictures

I also have little white bugs that run around the soil in one of my plants(especially when i water). they are not on the leaves.

any ideas?

one more i forgot to post

Any reccomendations on anything i can use to kill bugs in the soil that wont harm the plant. I've been told dawn and vegetable oil.
Any help would be appreciated.

i dunno about using detergent like dawn. i have little tiny almost fruit fly sized flys in my little pcgrow box i just put up a section of fly tape and BAM got all of em. check out some of my auto AK-47 its 4 weeks till harvest

Go to the bug control section, they'll have what you need.

sux about the mix-up. I've been thinking of growing a lowryder....CORRECTLY. I got one out of bagseed(didn't know what it was) and germinated it. Grew it in sunlite,like the other plants, and it was all scraggly and tiny, I thought it was because I was putting it through hell, odd though, the other plants were fine. Then I sexed them and it was the only one that didn't revert back to veg state. Then I realized it was an autoflower. It didn't grow very tall, 16 inches I think, but every bit of it is smokable....right down to the upper stem it is so flimsy...good smoke though.

Anyways sorry for steppin on your thread, good luck, will be lurking.......