socialsmoker
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great thread lotta good info!!! clones look great . they sell neem oil at home depot &loews might b cheaper if u need it .
Oaksterdam t-5 veg 600w hps flower
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Drella
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thanks man, i know i've been blessed with all of this support. the indoor love is very apparent on this site. hope everyones having an amazing holiday season. i just got like $400 worth of presents from my parents, i had lost my job two months ago. but i got rehired in a different company, making more. gonna keep my house now, this is a very good year after all!
d.c. beard
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Good to hear things worked out, and for the better! It's a Festivus miracle!
Drella
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yeah it for sure did work out. thanks dc!
socialsmoker
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glad things 2 hear things r getting better!!
Drella
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thanks man, yeah going to throw in 12/12 in like a week. probably gonna cut some clones in the next day or two!
Drella
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yeah for sure, defn would be in a diff mood if i didn;t have a job right now, with a morgage! good luck out there guys!good news man
socialsmoker
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sounds like a plan!!!
Drella
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everything looking good, no yellow leaves, ladies looking perky and happy. the tallest sativa plant is 16", i topped her again yesterday. probably gonna throw them into bloom room within the next 5 days. which would make this veg 30 days. i think the reason for this veg not being faster is my nutes. when i put full strength nutes, (i use botanicare pro grow, for veg), which is 2 tblsp, my water ph reading is 5.0-4.0. i never bought ph up because the hydro store guy said i would never use it. so i've been adding more tap water to get the water up to 6.5-6.0. this defeats the whole purpose because it then changes my water to like 3/4strength nutes. hydro store opens on tues, ill pick up ph up then. the thing is the plants show no signs of nute def, no yellowing of leaves, but they don't grow as fast as i think 24/0 should. i also know with 24/0 you should be feeding more nutes, because they're getting more light.
any opinions are welcome.
im gonna take some cuttings off of the bottom of the plants within the next day or two, this time i'm gonna use some soiless plugs, as well as some rockwool cubes. let's see which one goes better! The first two pics are of the veg room. Im planning on throwing six in the bloom room, four in the back, and two from the front. i know this will give me an uneven canopy my first time, which will be a pain. My plan is with the next cuttings to top as necessary to keep the canopy even. next two pics are of a indica, and a sativa plant. we'll see which one comes out better. and the last two pics are of the soiless plugs i'm gonna use.
question, do you soak the soiless plugs in nuted 5.5 water, just like rockwool cubes, before cloning? it didn't come with any instructions?
last pic is or the revegged clone, looking like the akward step child. im not gonna even think of throwing this one in bloom till she gets mature leaves, don't wanna chance hermie. she's real healthy though, i can't get over those funny revegged leaves!
any opinions are welcome.
im gonna take some cuttings off of the bottom of the plants within the next day or two, this time i'm gonna use some soiless plugs, as well as some rockwool cubes. let's see which one goes better! The first two pics are of the veg room. Im planning on throwing six in the bloom room, four in the back, and two from the front. i know this will give me an uneven canopy my first time, which will be a pain. My plan is with the next cuttings to top as necessary to keep the canopy even. next two pics are of a indica, and a sativa plant. we'll see which one comes out better. and the last two pics are of the soiless plugs i'm gonna use.
question, do you soak the soiless plugs in nuted 5.5 water, just like rockwool cubes, before cloning? it didn't come with any instructions?
last pic is or the revegged clone, looking like the akward step child. im not gonna even think of throwing this one in bloom till she gets mature leaves, don't wanna chance hermie. she's real healthy though, i can't get over those funny revegged leaves!
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d.c. beard
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Drella, why are your leaves always wet? Are you foliar-feeding? If you're feeding liquid nutes through the soil you shouldn't spray the leaves with anything. And also I wouldn't say that a plant on 24/0 needs more nutes than one at 18/6. I would say that it would require more water, and if that water contains more of the proper levels of the proper nutes, then that's OK.
"i never bought ph up because the hydro store guy said i would never use it."
WOW, sounds like you either got 'the New guy' or you need to find a different shop! That's the FIRST thing you're going to need after buying any type of nutes!
And yes, you do soak the plugs just to re-hydrate and soften them. But you soak them in distilled water that has been Ph'd to the acceptable 'soil' range, which is 6.3 - 6.8. I usually aim for 6.6 all the time and it's never let me down yet. I use rapid rooter plugs too.
"i never bought ph up because the hydro store guy said i would never use it."
WOW, sounds like you either got 'the New guy' or you need to find a different shop! That's the FIRST thing you're going to need after buying any type of nutes!
And yes, you do soak the plugs just to re-hydrate and soften them. But you soak them in distilled water that has been Ph'd to the acceptable 'soil' range, which is 6.3 - 6.8. I usually aim for 6.6 all the time and it's never let me down yet. I use rapid rooter plugs too.
socialsmoker
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plants look great green and no burn!!!!
Drella
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thanks rydub, feels good coming from you!
Drella
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yeah, i've been taking notes from my vet friend DC, listen to the plants. nomatter all the different opinions there are out there, the most important are your ladies, they will let you know what they want. to be honest, this grow, the leaves haven't drooped one bit, or discolored. i have five different strains, one gimpy reveg, to mediums, i use color pool ph for christ sake! and the ladies are still happy.
the crappy thing is that i'm gonna have to move the veg closet into the garage, i feel to sketchy when people come over. i know my setup is totally legit, but still don't want to break the # 1 rule in growing.
within the next week my dad is donating a single cab pickup to me, and i'm gonna buy a bunch of plywood and insulation. i'm gonna build a veg closet, in insulated box form, in my garage. it's gonna have similar dimensions to my closet now, but in box form. so suggestions for intake and outake fans would be great. my veg closet nows in an extra room, but by confining it to a box, i will have to worry more about insulation, and air movement.
Drella
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thanks for the feedback dc, really clears things up for me. yeah i been foliar feeding once or twice a day. like i said, by not nuting full strength in my water feedings, i've been supplimenting by foliar spraying, no ill effects as of yet. this will stop by the time i get some ph up. (weird because the hydro store guy is a 30yr vet, old school guys got some weird advice sometimes! he said just add tap water for ph up, well by the time i do that i add another 2gal to the mix!)
as for the cutting, going to do so in 20mins, pics up soon. the plugs are still moist, so i'm just going to cut, dip, and place in plugs. i will then spray the plugs with ph'd water enriched with superthrive, keeping the plugs moist and the humid dome on.
Drella
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cuttings from the bottom of the four plants that i plan to throw into bloom within a week. got 15 cuttings, 6 alone from the amazing bush. im using rapid rooters this time. i didn't soak them, i just sprayed them with 6.5ph water, nuted with weak dose of superthrive. i didn't soak them because the first cloning took a month to root, i think this is because the rock wool was soaked, not damp. i also added a heating pad this time. let's see what happens!
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Drella
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dude, your making me feel great coming into my first bloom! yeah the main stalk i hearty party! i like that they all look totally different, im totally stoked!Hell ya! looks like its about time to put some bud on these ladys! All the plants seem to have good structure, it looks like they should be able to hold weight well. And looks like they should have some serrious buding sites. Alls well in the land of green.
Someguy15
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The grow bible suggests 24 hours increases male/hermie chances. As does lack of n, light and other factors. Females have the highest resource requirements I suppose. I considered 24 for my mothers but decided on 20/4 instead. Guess I favor the more natural way over slightly quicker growth. How are the girls doin, bloom time soon?