Novel coronavirus introduced to humans in exotic animal meat market.
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mustbetribbin
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There's a natural treatment for pathogenic viruses out there, it comes from the persimmon tree, I'm pretty sure it's found in the leaves of the plant mostly, but the fruit may contain anti viral properties also. (I'm pretty sure most Diospyros species contain antiviral properties, some may have more potential healing constituents than others).
I found an article here discussing the use of Diospyros kaki the Asian persimmon variety, however I harvested my own persimmon leaves from the wild Texan variety I believe (central US), and it help me survive H2N1 several years back, helps to control the reaction and relax the nervous system so that the body can better allocate it's resources to fighting the virus, instead of going into panic and having that cytokine storm and or a ARDS type reaction.
I drink this Tea twice a week (daily if I'm sick), as it helps with insomnia, may give a boost in REM sleep, CNS relaxant, and is a mild potentiator to Cannabis/Cannabinoid absorption in the bloodstream due to its terpene (flavoniod?) content.
I think more people should be aware that there are natural protective species of plants & Trees out there that can also help preserve our own species as well, especially in response to viral attacks such as these various recent coronaviruses, and other influenza type viruses as well. (I'm about to get at least 100 trees sprouted here in the next month or so)....
I found an article here discussing the use of Diospyros kaki the Asian persimmon variety, however I harvested my own persimmon leaves from the wild Texan variety I believe (central US), and it help me survive H2N1 several years back, helps to control the reaction and relax the nervous system so that the body can better allocate it's resources to fighting the virus, instead of going into panic and having that cytokine storm and or a ARDS type reaction.
I drink this Tea twice a week (daily if I'm sick), as it helps with insomnia, may give a boost in REM sleep, CNS relaxant, and is a mild potentiator to Cannabis/Cannabinoid absorption in the bloodstream due to its terpene (flavoniod?) content.
I think more people should be aware that there are natural protective species of plants & Trees out there that can also help preserve our own species as well, especially in response to viral attacks such as these various recent coronaviruses, and other influenza type viruses as well. (I'm about to get at least 100 trees sprouted here in the next month or so)....
Fogdog
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Article: Persimmon extracts (PE) were prepared by serial procedures of squeezing immature green persimmon fruit, clarification with filtration, and freeze-drying. A batch of PE was shown to contain 21.8% of persimmon tannins
Tribbin: I harvested my own persimmon leaves from the wild Texan variety I believe (central US)
Research article: No cytotoxicity found in tests using .025% PE. Each virus was incubated with a 0.5% tannin solution. The results showed that PE treatment inactivated all of the 12 viruses, suppressing their infectivities to less than the detection limit by more than 4 log reduction
It's interesting. Sounds like a large dose is needed though. At least that's what was found in the lab tests on viruses grown in the test solution. Any idea how much active ingredient is in the leaves you harvested? I'd have to drink a whopping large volume of whiskey to blow 0.5% blood alcohol.
Fogdog
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No, No I cannot. Must be something else you are smelling.
mustbetribbin
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Hi Fogdog,
Apparently for the scientific studies conducted in the article the scientists used immature green fruit to produce the extract that they used in the study, however anyone who's ever sampled an unriped persimmon will attest to the fact that they contain such high levels of tannins at this early stage of growth that they are inedible, and will cause gastric disturbances if consumed at an unripened stage.
Take it from someone who knows this tree species well enough to tell you all you need to gain this species healing properties into your diet is found in the harvested leaves, your not going to want to go chewing the bark from off the tree, or using the fruits before their ready, petri dishes have there purposes... let's just say that for now.
Fogdog
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so the tea you make from the leaves isn't bitter? Isn't it the tannin that makes the unripe persimmon bitter?
mustbetribbin
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Well when any fresh leaves are to be harvested, they are typically harvested as soon as the newest springtime leaves are done sprawling out from the branch tips, or as soon as they develop a bit darkness to the leaves after the branches fill with leaves, there is like a 2 week window that's the best time to harvest each spring to get the most potent healing properties, much in same the way that green tea has higher antioxidant than black/darker types of Tea harvested from the Camellia senisis plant.
I recommend harvesting just the new green growth from trees if you're able (up to say 40% of total new growth if you can reach it, lol, then skip a year/or 2 between harvests), and then allow the leaves to wilt for about 24hrs before they are removed from the twig branches, this helps the starches in the leaves breakdown into sugar, and this makes for a sweeter and more enjoyable tea, that is also more digestible and less bitter.
Quite Tasty.
Fogdog
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Tannins are bitter.
captainmorgan
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I've bought aged Korean persimmons as a digestive aid, they are flattened out and covered in mold, folk remedy. You cook them up with a few other ingredients, pretty tasty and some consider a desert.
Fogdog
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tannins are bitter. It's the tannin that is the active ingredient. I'm glad you like the persimmons.
I'm not raining on the information but the contradictions are glaring.
captainmorgan
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Just mentioning it because it appears the whole tree has health properties.
mustbetribbin
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LoL, persimmons/diospyros have an entourage type effect found within the leaves or fruits, it's not just the tannins alone that helps improve the body's reaction to the cytokine storm, there's flavoniods, and other constituents found in there also that basically keep the body from going into shock, tannins don't do that on their own.
I'd recommend a bit of your own research into the matter if you'd like to fully understand this species's healing properties and so forth, it's worth looking into... imo.
Fogdog
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The article you posted was about tannins, so, pardon me if I didn't know about the other components.
mustbetribbin
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Post #273 edited.
Sorry Fogdog didn't mean to insinuate anything, it was not my purposes to cause any such distortion to this polite conversation, thank you for your patience/understanding my friend.
abandonconflict
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No, No I cannot. Must be something else you are smelling.
abandonconflict
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24k confirmed cases
500 confirmed deaths
25 countries have confirmed cases
450 have been confirmed to have fully recovered
Experts are uncertain if recovery gives a patient immunity.
500 confirmed deaths
25 countries have confirmed cases
450 have been confirmed to have fully recovered
Experts are uncertain if recovery gives a patient immunity.
abandonconflict
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That's the thing, it takes time to confirm the spread because of the incubation period which is actually kind of long as far as viral diseases go. It does spread human to human, airborne well before there are any symptoms though. By the time a case if confirmed, they have already spread it to 4 other people and each of those four have spread it to four more and so on, 3-7 degrees before the carrier is identified in each generation of the spread.
The governments know this. They are simply trying to slow this thing to buy time to develop treatments.
Budley Doright
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Could be worse, you could have the not breaths.I got sniffles