Not Happy With yield please help!!!

brickedup417

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youll do alott better if you get some compost tea, if you do not want to make it you could get it from your local nursurey.
 

waz666

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Like the other guy said bigger pots. I increased my yield by half, changing from 2 to 5 gallon pots. Bigger Roots nomrally equal bigger plants/yield. I know you don't have alot of space but measure out to the largest size pots you can spueze in there. Good luck
 

OZUT

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For indoors, 2 gallons is small and 5 is big. Also, why would you get a 5 gallon pot and only fill it with 3 gallons of soil? If your plants are only going to go 3 months from start to finish, you don't need more than 3 gallons. You'll save space using 3 instead of 5 gallons with 3 gallons of soil.

Like mentioned above, focus on your roots....big strong roots down there will give you bigger results up there. Your problem is also your nutes...if you're using nothing but fox farms 3 pack, that's not enough. Also, a single 1000 in a 9 x 9 room is pretty weak...Your plants will grow as good as your most limiting factor. If you're worried about electricity consumption and that sort of stuff, look into trading your single 1000 with (2) 600's. You'll get 1,200 watts in that room using just about the same ampage plus you'll have 2 light point sources. Not to mention all of your lights will be a lot closer to the light source.

One thing you could do with the different size plants, is put the small ones in the middle and surround them with the taller ones. Just rotate the taller ones a quarter turn every few days.....

Hope this helps and good luck
 
Well I thought I was doing alright my first grow, but after reading for the past three days I realized I was doing it all wrong. I have just went into work in the room for the last 8hrs. WOW!! what a difference. I replaced the containers up to 5 gals on my big sativas, Northern Lights and Lemon Skunk. I left the shorter plants in their 2 gal pots (they look good for this crop only 3.5ft tall, ill replace them all with 5 gals as I put a new plant in the room every three days, which is what I have been doing) Then I placed pots under all the the indica plants to raise them close to the light, and more even with that sativas, This allowed me crowed the plants much closer together, and as a result closer to the light and so I did. Now I must say the plants I have this crop got vegged much longer. I had one Northern were the top cola was reaching past the hood! Didn't have anything close to that last crop, maybe 5ft. Anyway I lsted the top so it can get shined on by the 1000 watt HPS, and all the side shoots will be come colas, this plant is just startin to bud up, it has a sister, but I had topped her going into veg so she didn't have this problem. I am also sure sure will now throw me sum bud that she is happy in her 5 gal container. They were very rootbound. I also quadtrouple staked up my lemon skunks so all the colas could get light, last crop I def cut them down a month early, The website said 8 weeks, they didn't look done so i cut em at 9 and got a zip of wispy stuff. I didn't realize that i had a real sativa pheno and it needed like 3 more weeks, so I have three get close no Imma let em go a month, that should through me some bud. I went through the entire crop and picked off all the little crap buds. Then finally, I had remembered I how I previously regretted not topping one northern, and how happy i was with lst it because now the side shoots would think they were top colas. I applied the same logic to all the indicas. Raised temps to 85. I'm going back to the grow store tomorrow to get some nutes. I still have a lot of reading to do on this and need more suggestions. I think after I do that you guys may have really saved my crop. It is a pepetual setup so I have plants in all stages and thus, I still have alot of time to increase the yield on many plants, and will see the "fruits" of my labor in the form of yield hopefully sooner than later.

I really wish I took pictures before I started but believe me it is like night and day.

Ill put pics up of what it looks like now, and Ill get pics of last crop so you can get an idea of what it looked like before.

Much more room to walk around in there to now which is nice. =)
 
here we go

picture 1. more even canopy picture 2. crop picture picture 3. LSD almost done 4. lsted LSD pheno 2 picture 5. lsted LSD pheno 1 picture 6. White widow, too pretty didn't touch it, really has won me over. picture 7. lemon skunk cola on left picture 8. Lsted LSD pheno 2 picture 9. Topped Northern left, LSted Northern Right.
 

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brickedup417

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hell ya man check out diiferent nutes and shit at tha store, have you heard of gravity itll make your nugs rock hard.
 

brickedup417

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that lemon skunk looks bad ass, ya the reason your not happy with your yield is because the distance between the light and your plants . but i guess you dont really have a choice those sativas are growing tall.
 

homebrewer

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Also, why would you get a 5 gallon pot and only fill it with 3 gallons of soil? If your plants are only going to go 3 months from start to finish, you don't need more than 3 gallons. You'll save space using 3 instead of 5 gallons with 3 gallons of soil.
A 3 and a 5 gallon pot have the same footprint and it also gives you the flexibility to add more soil if needed, like for a mother plant.
 

STZ

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When I grew indoors my first setup was very similar to yours (1000w, mylar, T5 veg, ~75 temp, FF nutes). My grow space was slightly smaller, however (maybe 7'x7'). I think the problem is the small containers. I started off using short veg times and 1 gallon containers and running like 44 plants or something. When I switched to 5 gallon is when I really started growing a lot of good weed (sometimes if the clones were already in 3 gallons when I got them I let them stay). 12 plants vegged to a good size (1.5-2.5 feet) and trained really well outyielded 40+ plants in the smaller containers by a long shot. I still never got anywhere near 1 gram a watt, but with a good indoor strain 700-800 grams is no problem with this setup. Good luck I hope you get your shit all dialed-in my man!
 
that lemon skunk looks bad ass, ya the reason your not happy with your yield is because the distance between the light and your plants . but i guess you dont really have a choice those sativas are growing tall.

Its actually pretty close to the light now, if I keep rotating them like a chicken and let em go another three weeks (chopped it a month early last crop) I think (and hope) it will come out pretty good!
 

Murfy

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here are some pics of my sativas at about 4 weeks,topped at 6th node(clones), tied down in first week of flower.-IMG_2693.jpgIMG_2698.jpgIMG_2680.jpgIMG_2696.jpgIMG_2694.jpg
i use el cheapo laundry baskets with landscape fabric in them, with soil less medium.they have eight gallons of soil in them.IMG_2256.jpgIMG_2264.jpgIMG_2257.jpg
under (2) 1k HPS with econo reflectors, and (3) 400W 7200K MH,with no reflectors, in a sealed room, with 15K btu of air con, and a small catalytic, LP heater for CO2.

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my watering technique is similar to riddleme's "make it rain" style. except i don't flush through 3 times the volume of the pot. basically i water until i have plenty of runoff. then i wait until the pots are about 50% dry, then i feed just until runoff. this composes of about 5-6 gallons at water, and 2 gallons at feed. then i wait until the plants say they want water and i do it all over again.

for nutes i use;

dyna-gro FOLIAGE PRO all the way through. right now i am at 1 EC(5ml/g) at each feeding.

silica blast, all the way through @5ml/g, at every feeding

jack's dynamic duo. triple 20 all purpose, and 10-30-20 blossom booster.right now about 1 EC all purpose, and 2.5 EC blossom.

i don't use all the multi part super expensive nutes. i harvest about 10-12 ounces a piece, and run 4 plants in a cycle, with 2 cycles going at a time(4 week intervals, eight plants in the room).

i notice that the last week is really when mine bulk up alot. waiting until proper ripeness is critical.

hope this helps-murf
 

dlively11

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When I was doing soil I was getting 2-3 ounces dried per plant in 2 gallon pots so there seems to be another issue with yours. I ran 12 plants per light. I was getting over 28 grams with 1 gallon pots too switching plants at about 7-8 inches tall. I was using Super Natural with Floralicious Plus and finishing with Bud Blaster. Great results with that stuff.

GL
 

sensisensai

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Sounds like u have some solid advice, I would suggest lowering that temp back down. Ull be disaapointed to find fluffy buds again should u choose to keep temps so high without C02. Other than that, kudos my friend
 
two gsl pot is a problem should be in 5gal or higher, and are you folar sparying nuets on the plants? if not you should with bloom and grow, 3rd run c02 for 3rd & 4th week of flower at 1850ppm to 1950ppm and then either stop and save money or cut down 1500 for 1st 4hr. day light you will see a 30% increase. also in a 9x9x10ft room you need two 1000's and I would lose the Mylar and switch to reflective plastic (get it at the hydro store white on one side black on the other) because mylar reflects heat more than light and does not through light right can get hot spots and uneven light over garden.
 

cannakis

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Ok so I have what I think is a decent setup

-1000 Watt HPS (Flower) 9x9 Room
-40,000 lumen t5 light (Veg) Small Closet
-Mylar on the walls
-Temps around 74 humidty 50%
-Fox Farm Ocean Forest
-Fox Farm 3 Pack Nutes
-2 gal Perfect Pots

I have grown 6 strains from clone LSD (3 phenos), Lemon Skunk, Northern Lights, and White Widow. I also raised 11 females from bag seed/Jamaican seed first crop.

First Crop I flowered 24 plants. This crop only 12 because I couldn't get all 24 ready in time.

I switch the lights on em at 1ft for the satavias (get really tall 5-6) and the indicas at 2ft, bush out and goto like 3.5ft
First Crop I topped all the plants, as well as trying some supercroping out. Second crop no toping was done.

First and second crop average yield about 20 grams a plant.....I was happy the first time with the 24 but with the 12 I feel 20 grams is pathetic. Really upset, running a nice room plants look superhealthy throughout just not enough bud. ( got aerocloner so I can always run 24 here on out.)

Now I think my problem is my 2 gal pots, if you agree tell me how much of the problem you think it could be causing.

hahaha brother i believe you answered that question your self. haha i was like hmm i wonder what it could be... and then you said that... and i was just like hell yeah. i heard that it needs to be AT LEAST 3 gallons, if not 5. but i don't know shit, so don't take my advice... seriously.
 
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