You shot and killed people when you were younger? And now brag that you didn't get caught?
Turn yourself in and let the guilt out.
NOT GUILTY ...zimmermen
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You shot and killed people when you were younger? And now brag that you didn't get caught?
Turn yourself in and let the guilt out.
I was thinking this just yesterday..however, if it wasn't for this I wouldn't have started to grow and would never have known you fine people..I'm a glass half full kinda girl..ya know lemonade out of lemons?
burgertime2010
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So fist fights are deuls ideally. Someone deserves to die? I'm sorry but are people just pussies now? Violence, I avoid but understand. Fistfighting in the eyes of the law both parties are guilty and is never lethal really. Add a gun to that and you have far more dead people and bystanders that ever. One good punch? that is hyperbolic assumption of an irrational reality. That is murder, no smoke, no debate. Fear by an uninformed population is pushing the agenda forward. Statistics prove all this, knowledge will set you free.
echelon1k1
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is that what you got from that? you think too much bro... Yes fighting can turn lethal very quickly and end up with undesirable consequences. The fact is the premise of stand your ground is a citizen is able to use lethal force if THEY FEAR their life is in immediate danger. You cannot comment on his GMs state of mind that night so really just STFU... If knowledge really does set you free then stew on this;
ZIMMERMAN FOUND NOT GUILTY
You and Juror B37 are incorrect. This is NOT a "stand your ground" case..which is why my comment regarding juror interpretation is accurate.
echelon1k1
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you could've fooled me with all the bullshit assumptions you've been pulling out in every thread of this type... Now go cry to your social worker maybe she can do something about the not guilty verdict
burgertime2010
Well-Known Member
Do you mind answering an honest question? no dis.
echelon1k1
New Member
you haven't asked a question... Nor have you fielded a real response to the statement i made, just some diatribe about zimmerman murdering martin, while encouring me to embrace the truth. Well the truth is he was found not guilty by a jury of his peers. I don't understand what is so complicated for you libtards to understand? The fact is he actually got a fair trial in a climate of fear created by race hustling bigots and spurred on by the liberal media... If that wasn't enough the commander in queef chimed in with his, as per fucking usual, worthless two cents to really drive the racial divide home centering it in a presidential fanfare in your living room.
You should be ashamed you continue to beat this obviously dead and decaying horse in the hopes of what? reliving the experience dexter?
burgertime2010
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Nobody can comment on anothers state of mind. You have to see the ridiculousness of this notion? How can it justify homicide accurately? The irrationally scared person has more legal standing? Jurors are absolute in their findings? My friend, dont talk down to me because I disagree. I do think too much and I listen too much. You should entertain flexibility in how you reason it shows evidence of wisdom.
echelon1k1
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You get punched in the face, fall hit your head, causing serious brain trauma, that will induced coma and you'll probably never wake up, if you do you'll most likely be a vegetable. The person that struck you is up for at best manslaughter at worst murder. Happens all the time.
burgertime2010
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You assume that I disagree with all you are saying. I dont care about this trial very deeply. Don't tell me you know how I feel. Have respect and you might be surprised. Attacking with all you got is your other option. I wanted to ask you but you didnt say yes. Don't worry.....you can't possibly care.
echelon1k1
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I just don't beat around the bush is all... I like to get straight to the point. There's enough politics in the politics section as it is... if you wanna ask a question, ask away, ill answer as best i can, no need to ask before you ask...
burgertime2010
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How do you prove fear in court? I ask because I want an honest answer and not a tyrade. Basically, just talk.I just don't beat around the bush is all... I like to get straight to the point. There's enough politics in the politics section as it is... if you wanna ask a question, ask away, ill answer as best i can, no need to ask before you ask...
burgertime2010
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I would ask where is the line? The fear is americas defining charachteristic, when not tied up and having guns pointed at you I see very few reasonable pre-emptive shootings. Just a clear idea of what fear defense will do to real murder cases and the expansion of what is legit fear.
desert dude
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It's known as "REASONABLE FEAR of death or great bodily harm..."
It is up to the jury to decide whether the fear was REASONABLE. Put yourself on the jury. You saw the pictures of Zimmerman. You heard the testimony of eye witnesses who saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman. If you were in that situation, cold cocked, head being pounded into the concrete, your blood flowing from several head wounds, your nose broken, would you be afraid? Would you REASONABLY fear that the next punch, or the next head bash against concrete would fracture your skull, do permanent brain damage, cause your death? If you are convinced that Zimmerman's fear was reasonable in that situation, then "fear is proven".
Sure are, welcome to a 250 year old tradition in this country, glad you paid attention in government class.
echelon1k1
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through precedent and reason if you cannot use scientific means to study a persons amygdala (fear centre of the human brain). I think to answer your question would first require a look at the fear centre of the human brain, what scientific data could be used to measure and collate reasonable fear reactions across a broad range of subjects. Starting with a baseline of what induces fear and how much fear is needed to activate the fight or flight response.
TBH i have not read into this subject extensivley so this is just my opinion. Fear also goes hand in hand with adrenalin which further complicates the matter. Everyone is different so what I may fear as a life threatening situation you may not view the same and vice versa. This is where i think the grey area really lies... More reaseach is needed as it's only been recently that scientists have been able to mark neurons in the brain to study the amygdala and it's relationship to the rest of our function centres. New studys have found the neurons in the amygdala to be antagonistic woith vastly opposing functions... Ill try and find the paper on it...
two wounds that were referred to as abrasions since they required no stitches..nose broken? that's news to me..GZ refused medical treatment additionally, he is NO physician..for someone who felt they were sooooooooo close to death it boggles the mind that they wouldn't accept medical treatment in order to confirm injuries or in GZ case, lack thereof.
Absolute however, doesn't make it a correct verdict based upon juror commentary.
burgertime2010
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It is not this case and its facts, rather, the impossibility of truth to be uncovered by a jury especially without witnesses. This makes killing a pretty grey area unless there are more critera to how this is applied. In self defense, how bloody I ask? Pre emptively? for the unarmed? on your property only? to theives? Just questions that need to be a little more clear I think.
