Normal for Finishing?

BudRN

BudRN

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Hey guys, six weeks into flower on Hella jelly which is a “45 day” flowering strain according to Humboldt. I don’t think she’s ready yet, but just wanted to see if the yellowing and leaves changing are normal. Basically water only into living soil right now. Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
 

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I’ve not seen or grown a strain that finishes that fast, but it sure looks like she’s throwing a lot foxtails. Sometimes it’s a genetic trait seen more commonly in some sativas, or it could be a stress response. I think this is more likely from stress than “normal” fade. It seems a little early for typical senescence, according to the bud development.
 
Thanks! I guess there’s some FoxTails. I don’t really notice them like I’ve seen in other pictures, but Hella jelly is supposedly a sativa that grows like an Indica. As far as time goes, I’m just repeating what’s on the back of the pack which says 45 days flower but I know it can go longer. I guess my main concern would be just the yellowing of the leaves if it’s early. Should I continue to feed something like build a bloom? By the way, thanks for the help as this is my first go round…
 
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Not even close to being done. Yellowing leaves are telling you it is starving from just water. FYI plants in flower need N too, just giving it a bloom fert is not going to improve things.
 
Got it. The build a bloom is a 2-10-5 so I figured it had enough juice to carry me through. I will try some synganics to the rescue tomorrow. Any suggestions for a flower based synthetic? I’ve heard of lots of people using them when they need a quick response, but I don’t know any brands that might work in my case. Also, I didn’t think it was nitrogen related because none of the lower leaves are showing any yellowing. I actually thought maybe it was nute burn from the build a bloom.
 
I started out trying to do the organic thing, mixing all this bat shit etc. Always had issues. They day my life changed was when I went to Jacks 321 method. I start my seedlings at 25% and then work up to 2.4g/1.6g/0.8g into flower. I grow in soil.
 
It’s hard to correct mistakes in an organic grow when you’re already mid way into the grow. Most truly organic stuff takes time to break down and be available. If you do want to continue with the Organic route, you’ll probably need something like a tea that’s faster acting, or to switch to synthetics to finish her off.

I’d recommend some reading (organic ROLS tab) and looking into soil mixes for the next run if you want to stick with this route. It’s a lot more “homework” up front, but a lot less daily work along the way, once you get it set up.
I’ve also got a journal up and running, using my home made organic soil mix. I’ve got the mixes broken down and listed in there too for anyone that wants to try them.
 
Yeah Never listen to breeder estimates it's done when it's done those are based on the fastest phenos in an optimum environment and everything going right and as others said already 45 days bloom is definitely not gonna be a sativa dominant plant most indica Dom strains ain't even so fast those things are rarer than hens teeth
 
45 days is crazy, I have a plant like that but it's not auto just some random fem bagseed from outdoor bud
But it's sick !! Crazy frost and crazy fast, this is day 45 and I can harvest it as all hairs are orange and it's mostly cloudy imo but I'll let it ride until 56ish
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BudRN said:
Thanks! I guess there’s some FoxTails. I don’t really notice them like I’ve seen in other pictures, but Hella jelly is supposedly a sativa that grows like an Indica. As far as time goes, I’m just repeating what’s on the back of the pack which says 45 days flower but I know it can go longer. I guess my main concern would be just the yellowing of the leaves if it’s early. Should I continue to feed something like build a bloom? By the way, thanks for the help as this is my first go round…
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BudRN said:
Got it. The build a bloom is a 2-10-5 so I figured it had enough juice to carry me through. I will try some synganics to the rescue tomorrow. Any suggestions for a flower based synthetic? I’ve heard of lots of people using them when they need a quick response, but I don’t know any brands that might work in my case. Also, I didn’t think it was nitrogen related because none of the lower leaves are showing any yellowing. I actually thought maybe it was nute burn from the build a bloom.
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Your buds look ok, but something looks a bit off. Kinda like buds that don't really ever want to finish up, but yours are only 45 days along, so I dunno. I've seen cold temps and weak lighting produce similar looking results.

as far as feed, consistency is key. ramp up with N from day 1 in flower. I only taper N off a little the last few weeks. and slowly introduce whatever PK, again ramping it up. PK i run full strength until the end. I use mega crop 1 part, and whatever their bloom booster is called. about as simple as it gets.
 
Cool. I think I’ve determined it’s a potassium deficiency. I think it probably only has a couple more weeks so I’m just gonna hit it with some recharge and let it ride. As far as the buds go, I don’t really mind the Foxtail’s since it’s my personal stash and my first grow. I think part of the problem with that is that my Photontek light is a little bit too much for that little 2x2.
 
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Cool. I think I’ve determined it’s a potassium deficiency. I think it probably only has a couple more weeks so I’m just gonna hit it with some recharge and let it ride. As far as the buds go, I don’t really mind the Foxtail’s since it’s my personal stash and my first grow. I think part of the problem with that is that my Photontek light is a little bit too much for that little 2x2.
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I have a foxtailing plant right now and it is not the norm in my garden. Genetic is more likely
 
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I have a foxtailing plant right now and it is not the norm in my garden. Genetic is more likely
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Thanks! I’m not worried about that..I’m gonna finish her out, stick her in the Cannatrol, and get ready for the next run. (Pink Certz)
 
Thanks so much for the help everyone. I couldn’t help but give it a little love with quarter dose of pure blend pro bloom and some cal-mag plus. She liked it and it’s just fattening up. Those buds are getting tight and big. Crazy how long this can go. I still think I have a couple weeks so my question is what nutrient would you feed (and when) to finish her off. I’ve heard something like Athena fade is a pretty good. I think it continues to give the important flowering nutrients while removing nitrogen, but I’m not totally sure when to start something like that. Again, thanks in advance and I’ve attached some pictures for an update.
 

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BudRN said:
Hey guys, six weeks into flower on Hella jelly which is a “45 day” flowering strain according to Humboldt. I don’t think she’s ready yet, but just wanted to see if the yellowing and leaves changing are normal. Basically water only into living soil right now. Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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Here’s my hella jelly at 45ish days . Ended up going 55, and previous grow was 60ish. I think HSC ‘s timeframes are more geared towards outdoor/greenhouse. I’m late to the party but it does look like yours is hangry and possibly too hot… (foxtails) or too much light. Mine have been potassium / phosphorus / cal mag whores every time in flower. HJ does finish early but your looks like it has a bit to go , I’d def feed P,K
What are the temps?
 

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Here’s my hella jelly at 45ish days . Ended up going 55, and previous grow was 60ish. I think HSC ‘s timeframes are more geared towards outdoor/greenhouse. I’m late to the party but it does look like yours is hangry and possibly too hot… (foxtails) or too much light. Mine have been potassium / phosphorus / cal mag whores every time in flower. HJ does finish early but your looks like it has a bit to go , I’d def feed P,K
What are the temps?
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Hey there! Yep, she was mad but is feeling better after I raised the light and put on some bloom and cal-mag. Temps before I turned down the lamp were anywhere from 78-83 and now temps average around 80 with a leaf temp of 78 or so. I think it can take any of those temps but I underestimated that Photontek. It’s always liked less light but I may have cranked it up to much during flower. This girl is also about day 46. Since I’ve now kind of switched over to Syngantics, do you recommend anything to give for the final stretch?
 
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BudRN said:
Thanks so much for the help everyone. I couldn’t help but give it a little love with quarter dose of pure blend pro bloom and some cal-mag plus. She liked it and it’s just fattening up. Those buds are getting tight and big. Crazy how long this can go. I still think I have a couple weeks so my question is what nutrient would you feed (and when) to finish her off. I’ve heard something like Athena fade is a pretty good. I think it continues to give the important flowering nutrients while removing nitrogen, but I’m not totally sure when to start something like that. Again, thanks in advance and I’ve attached some pictures for an update.
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Get some Dynomyco and when you water add that in. It'll help the plant soak up nutrients. My plants love it every time. Wish I saw this sooner so I could of helped more as I'm strictly organic right now but researching synganics for next round.
 
Thanks for the recommendation! I actually was gonna order some of that for inoculating roots on my next grow. This morning, I did water in some recharge though so that should help. Things are looking decent. Buds are fattening up and she’ll finish. I’ll put in some pics from yesterday.
 

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BudRN said:
Thanks for the recommendation! I actually was gonna order some of that for inoculating roots on my next grow. This morning, I did water in some recharge though so that should help. Things are looking decent. Buds are fattening up and she’ll finish. I’ll put in some pics from yesterday.
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I have grown a strain with similar formation, they seem to stretch then fill out, I wouldn’t be surprised if once they seem nearly done they start stacking on new growth again for a second bulk.
Just out of curiosity what ppfd are you hitting your canopy at?
 
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