Nonbelievers, how did you lose your religion?

Padawanbater2

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Should be an interesting, and hopefully educating, thread. I see a lot of people claim they used to be atheists but saw the light and now they're a believer. Hopefully this thread sheds a little light on why that's an absurd statement to make, and why and how we each reached our own conclusions to nonbelief in a god.

I'll start...

Flashback to 1997, I was about 10 when the concept of God really came into my life..

1999, full blown Christian, believing (but not understanding) God created everything, you go to Heaven if you're good, Hell if you're bad, the whole 9 yards... I was influenced by my parents, having been duped themselves by tradition and years of conditioning. Not having realized this then, or having the capacity to, I blindly followed Christianity, believing it was right because my parents, the people who I depended on for life, said it was right...

2000, Y2K, my first taste of conscious irrationality. They said the world would end, I sat frightened, but preoccupied with my friend who made absurd statements about the taste of bbq chips dipped in koolaid (ROFL! to this day!) not really believing the world would end because I couldn't put 'Y2K - computers go out - the world ends!" into logical perspective, even as a 13 year old...

2003 - President Bush launches a war into Iraq because of 9/11. Confused, but I had the opinion of 'America is always right, why would they do anything bad against national interests?!', quickly realized (by 2006) that it was all bullshit for monetary gains, not American interest. Faith in the American government begins to fade...

2006 - began to question the moral reasons behind the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan, realized the terrorists behind 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia and elsewhere. Began the long, arduous process of researching why we went into the Middle East in the first place...

2006-2010 - researched history, religion, politics, science, society, psychology, astronomy, philosophy, art, influences. Literally anything and everything to get a broader understanding of existence.

2010 - realized atheism

2010-2012 - was spent trying to empower other people, on the fence or otherwise confused, have reached some, but not others.

I find the hardest thing in this entire quest is those that are proud to be faithful. Those that reality doesn't exist to. Those that prefer myth over logic, tradition over fact. Those too scared to let go, too scared of non-existence. The most fulfilling thing has been reaching those that value truth over comfort. When it finally clicks inside someones head that they have no real reason to fear anything in existence, especially the claims of the fearful, it all becomes worth it. Worth all the countless hours spent trying to explain a concept to someone who doesn't want to hear it, worth all the time and effort put into a thoughtful response only to be given a one sentence rebuttal..

I'm a non believer because nothing believable has been presented.
 

UncleBuck

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my loss of religion story is completely authentic, btw.

Dog was kind of a dick when he didn't help me find the baseball. all benevolent my ass.
 

mindphuk

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The very first line bashes believers. One starred.
5 star to counteract your bullshit. How is anything he said 'bashing' anyone? This hurt card that's played anytime someone's fragile sensitivities are bruised gets really tiresome. You're acting as childish as CWE and his faux outrage. You both sound like whiny children. You act like any criticism of your irrational beliefs is somehow a personal insult.
 

Padawanbater2

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The whole absurd statement part.

Kaendar, you must understand, from an atheist's perspective, which you don't have any personal experience with, it is absurd to claim you used to be an atheist and now are a believer. If you were a true atheist, for the correct reasons, and not just reveling in teenage angst, you would understand what I mean...

You can't, I repeat, CAN'T (as I have yet to meet someone) go from atheism to belief. You can't do it because to become a believer after reaching atheism for the correct reasons would require absolute proof of a deity. Beyond absolute proof, which would negate the concept of faith, an atheist can't be persuaded.

Disagree? Provide evidence for one.
 

Kaendar

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5 star to counteract your bullshit. How is anything he said 'bashing' anyone? This hurt card that's played anytime someone's fragile sensitivities are bruised gets really tiresome. You're acting as childish as CWE and his faux outrage. You both sound like whiny children. You act like any criticism of your irrational beliefs is somehow a personal insult.
Thats an insult right there.
 

Hepheastus420

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Nice thread pad.

At this moment I'm having a serious brain fart and I can't really remember my journey. I will give what I can remember though.

1994-2001: Happy as can be. No influence of religion or didn't have to think hard to be happy. There was no logic thoughts and there were no illogical thoughts. I just lived in the now.

2001-2002: I remember having an amazing dog that was my friend. I loved that dog and played with him all the time. I don't remember his cause of death but I remember feeling grief. My father told me he went to "doggy heaven. I was so gullible. I didn't question what he told me since it made me feel alot of joy that his death was a good thing. Faith was born.

2002-2006: I would visit my grandma alot and every once in a while she would take me to church. She has a thick spanish heritage and understands spanish the best. Needless to say, the church she took to me had a spanish speaking preacher. I couldn't understand a word he was saying. My grandma would translate the basics for me. God loves you so be good. Don't kill, steal, or be bad. No questioning from me since it wasn't neccessary.

2009: For some reason I catch on to conspriacies and get more interested in those than my "religion" (which I still haven't looked into). I start researching the illuminati, the mayans prophecy, and all that crap. While watching youtube videos, I would watch related videos on religions and how god would stop all these people. I got deep into conspiracies and UFOs which lead me to believe the world was evil and god was the only way to justice. I start researching more about religion and my faith builds a new strength. My faith is the strongest it's ever been at this point.

Through my HS years, I mentioned religion to some of my friends and it turns out most of them were atheists. They wouldn't mess with me or anything. They just said they were atheist and dropped the subject. Nuetral subject with them.

2010: I actually start thinking. I don't want to. I converse with different people on the subject. Friends tell me it's ok not to have a religion. My dad tells me he doesn't think I should question it. I was too scared to ask my grandma since I know she would just be pissed. I pretty much kept my thoughts to myself. "oh well.. I just need to keep my faith strong. Everything will be fine if I trust in god".

2011: I forgot the the name of the "prophecy" but he had thousands of followers. His group started spreading the word that the end of the world is close. "Holy fucking shit!!!! This can't be true!!". I start thinking I'm gonna go to hell for all my bad deeds. I started drinnking and singing bob marley songs in the backyard. Weird.. I "feel" that memory. Gloomy times but I feel like I learned something important. I remember filling a water bottle full of whiskey and walking in the streets at night. One night I called my mom while crying at told her that I don't want to go to hell and that I love her (lol.. calling people while drunk is funny). She tells me not to worry about it and the end of the world isn't coming soon.

I don't believe her though. I ask god for forgiveness and build up my faith. My faith is still strong.

2011 (later): It turns out that dipshit was wrong. I wake up and the world is the same. I realize I was so stupid. How could I fall for something as stupid? I start thinking seriously about my other beliefs. They all seem kind of crazy. But I don't want to think about it because it's a sin. I remember lashing out at a few skeptics here at this point in time who told me my beliefs were crazy. I hear other points from different people.. Alot of people tried to tell me the truth but I'd close my ears and yell "my faith is all I need" (metaphorically of course). I was ignoring the truth. I felt bad for questioning my faith. It was the start of the breakdown.

2011-2012: I gain alot of wisdom and views on life. I realize my beliefs are kind of crazy and I start finding it harder and harder to believe in them. I go through suicidal tendencies. Not being melodramatic. But I like for things to have a point. "what's the point of life if there is no god" I would ask myself. "there is no point.. no point in anything" blah blah depression.

2012: Not too long ago I bounce back from my depression. I feel new and good. I don't need religion any longer and thinking logically comes naturally (well in most cases). I haven't thought of my previous beliefs in conspiracies in a while. I can't believe I actually believed in that stuff.

Some of the years might be off but that's pretty much how it went down.
 

Metasynth

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I don't know if I ever believed in a judeo-christian God. I'm of the belief that there is an energy of connectedness that flows through everything, and when something dies or deteriorates, it's energy just joins that connected place. Some people call that energy 'god', and those same people might believe in 'heaven'; But to me, that is when your energy just re-joins all the other energy that flows through everything, all the time. Which, I might add, is already flowing through you while you are alive as well. It's omnipresent, but not omnipotent.
 

Kaendar

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When you face inevitable death, you will pray to God. Trust me.
Words of truth. It seems like when all else fails, even the most god hating and atheist person will turn to him for protection. Anybody that reads this will deny it, but id be willing to bet a million bucks that its true.
 

mindphuk

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Thats an insult right there.
waaaaa!

If your beliefs are rational, you should be able to demonstrate it with logic, because that is the definition of rational. If you think that's an insult, that's your cross to bear. Belief without good rational reasons to believe is by definition irrational. Don't like it? Prove me wrong.
 
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