No till, raised beds, scrog- starting from seed

Bigdogfirecrotch said:
Do I put the germinated seed right into the smart pot or do I gradually increase pot size then end up in the 20 gal smart pot?
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no you need to start them in a seedling mix in a small container, and then move them up to a 3/4-1 gallon. then when they get a good root system established, you can plant into the big boys... at least that's how i'm gonna do it :) I have my big boys on dollies so i can roll them back and forth from veg to flower without disturbing the soil too much. i feel i already compacted 2 of them from not having dollies and moving them about.
 
Mason Jar 92705 said:
From Root Riots starter plugs into 1 Gal. Roots Organic. They were on the sides of 1K in my veg room(18.5 hrs) for 3 days but it's starting to fill up w/ larger veg plants so I had to move them to their own 600w HPS about 18" above. In a week, those larger veg plants under the 1K will go into flower then I can put all Grape Inferno into 3 gal. w/ S.S. under that 1K. bongsmilie I'm not practicing to grow medicine....I'm growing medicine!
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if you check out this page of this thread https://www.rollitup.org/t/tga-by-others.339548/page-354 you will see that mason Jar's seedlings are ultra healthy. just with a simple bag of potting soil. that being said... you can also make your own seedling mix if you choose to.
 
ShLUbY said:
no you need to start them in a seedling mix in a small container, and then move them up to a 3/4-1 gallon. then when they get a good root system established, you can plant into the big boys... at least that's how i'm gonna do it :) I have my big boys on dollies so i can roll them back and forth from veg to flower without disturbing the soil too much. i feel i already compacted 2 of them from not having dollies and moving them about.
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I would recommend not transplanting so much. Studies have shown larger yields without transplanting because of disturbance of the roots during transplanting. I would sprout in a small container then immediately transplant to the final container.
 
4ftRoots said:
I would recommend not transplanting so much. Studies have shown larger yields without transplanting because of disturbance of the roots during transplanting. I would sprout in a small container then immediately transplant to the final container.
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i'll give it a try on the next run of four of the same cut i have. 2 i'll do my way, and 2 i'll try like you mentioned. i agree less stress is ideal. i would be fine with only having to transplant once! i always make sure i give the plant recovery time of 1-2 weeks before flipping to flower because of transplant stress.
 
ShLUbY said:
i'll give it a try on the next run of four of the same cut i have. 2 i'll do my way, and 2 i'll try like you mentioned. i agree less stress is ideal. i would be fine with only having to transplant once! i always make sure i give the plant recovery time of 1-2 weeks before flipping to flower because of transplant stress.
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I'd like to see that! I would do it myself but I only own 3 inch round pots for sprouting. I bet the mycorrhizae makes the effects of transplanting negligible.
 
Building my soil this weekend, would like to make a large enough batch for 16 20 gal smart pots....all of these recipes are so confusing any good tips on where to start?
 
Bigdogfirecrotch said:
Is this the compost I can buy from landscape supply stores?
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no.. not even close really, sorta like comparing storebought/bagged worm castings vs homemade.
More than likely the compost you would be buying is manure or forest products or both. You could use it, but it's not the same.
A leaf compost is a time consuming but highly rewarding effort
 
ShLUbY said:
i'll give it a try on the next run of four of the same cut i have. 2 i'll do my way, and 2 i'll try like you mentioned. i agree less stress is ideal. i would be fine with only having to transplant once! i always make sure i give the plant recovery time of 1-2 weeks before flipping to flower because of transplant stress.
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I think it depends on the plant and root system, i just popped some clones and one strains a beast, two are failry beastly, and one is weaker and slower by far (pink kush) and overall I would say transplant the sativas less! Especially the more landrace you go.

A flourishing rootball is always good though, as well as a recovery slash transition period. And one plant per bed is the way to go. Anywhere between 7gal and 70, depending on your preffered veg time, plants' health, and avail space, lol.
 
I'm still having some trouble figuring out how much peat moss/rock/aeration medium I will need to make enough soil for 16x 20gal pots? Any ideas? I feel like there should be an easy to calculate this but I'm a Newb. Thanks
 
Well first off your only going to make 292.5 gallons of soil. with 18.3 gallons per pot. you want some room on top.
So you will need
97.5 gallons each of peat moss, aeration, and compost. or 13 cubic ft each. Then its just figuring up your mix. I use Coots recipe @ .5 cup each of Neem, Crap, and kelp and 4 cups of minerals per cubic ft.
So you would want about 10 gallons of mineral and 3.5 gallons of nutrient.
Sourcing all of that with shipping was pricey. BAS has box kits of the nutrients and minerals already measured out. Would run you $200+ shipping. 5 large boxes with some to spare. Id proly throw it all in.

Or you can just buy it pre-made from BAS for $550 + shipping. Not saying you cant do it cheaper then that sourcing all the shit. But when I did a price comparison it was only 80 bucks cheaper for me. Not including the shipping. thats what kills you. Figure with shipping proly around $1000. But its mixed cooked and ready to go. YMMV.

Are you doing no tills or will you be recycling? For me I do 20 gal no tills. if i was recycling id proly only do 15s with around 13 gallons of soil. Which is pretty close to 1 yard of soil. BAS has that at 350 plus shipping.

Some things to think on i guess.
 
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Thanks I planned on doing no till, seems like that's the simplest way to go? Thank you for all the info...I'm heading off to lowes to try and source it myself. The only thing I'm having trouble finding is rice hulls but I could opt for an easier aeration material...
 
Pumice. Check at concrete mixing place. May be able to find it at a nursery. Could also look into Growstone for soil. Seen a few people use that.
 
I went with the build a soil nutrient pack and their coconut and aloe powder and sourced everything else I need locally at the big box stores. Once this cooks can I start my seeds right in it or should I germinate it first and then put it in this soil?
 
Only siting on my rice hulls and bu's blend compost to make my soil and start my seedlings a week or so after I get my smart pots made up and cooking. I could get away with using potting mix for a the first few weeks right ?
 
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