nathenking
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sounds good BB.... i know you have been waiting that long... i was just wondering about the other fellow... ill pop in on the 3rd to check in with you... either way... I wish you all the best ol man..lol
NO! On Prop 19
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Serapis
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Voting YES for 19 sends a clear and loud message that we want cannabis decriminalized. Voting NO, could mean many different things, including "Your a 215 'I've got mine, get your own' bird, or maybe you favor the profits made selling off excess? Voting NO puts you in with groups like churches, pharmacies, dispensaries, prudes,
Vote YES on 19 and BE HEARD & COUNTED
We can always amend a law later, if it is on the books.
Vote YES on 19 and BE HEARD & COUNTED
We can always amend a law later, if it is on the books.
nathenking
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whatever dude... quit putting people in with churches etc. just because we are not voting yes, does not mean we agree with any of those groups man... get over it... if we disagree, then we disagree, thats it...
Serapis
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I'm merely saying that by voting NO, your vote is counted right along with pro-prohibition, church and other special interest groups. The ones voting YES are sending a loud and clear message. What clear message are you sending by voting no? None.... cause you vote could have just as well come from a church or special interest. That's my point, and I have the right to share it and state it so here in this forum. Your NO vote might as well be from a church... I've read all of your posts and it's obvious why you are voting no...
nathenking
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Im so tired of this worn out shit... im an american... I can choose to vote the way I want... You can "classify" or "group" me in with whom ever you want... Good thing that doesnt mean shit... 1 man 1 vote... which ever way a person chooses to vote, get over it... your starting to sound like a "religous right" fanatic just because people dont vote/believe in the same as you... you have to put your self above, or bring people down for it... doesnt matter what side your on... you dont want to be like that Serapis...
desert dude
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Yeah, I am 57.
nathenking
Well-Known Member
right on... so you have been waiting a while... how bout 2 more years??? i can understand where you are coming from.... I hope all the best for you if it does or does not pass... good luck...
Serapis
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Very nice spin, master Nathen. I like how you take my opinion and twist me into a bad guy for having it. Like you, I'm fed up with all of the BS too. Many of the anti 19 people that smoke and grow pot do so under 215. Those that don't, are dealing or selling off surplus to dispensaries. Seems like a whole lot of self interest and special interest going on in Cali.
It's a simple fact really, all the votes against 19, will appear to be from those that do not favor ANY advancement in marijuana laws. Those groups are pharacueticals, the beer and wine distributors, distillers, churches, MADD, DADD, etc...... Your no vote is not going to send any clear message to the state capital making it clear the laws are not fair and need rewritting. The NO votes will appear to be just what they are, "No to marijunana".
Whether you like it or not, that is the way it is. Voting no is simply a way to stop advancement of marijuana reform. It is as simple as that, regardless of what you would choose to preach.
Serapis
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And what do you expect to happen in two more years? A revenue free bill? LOL.... If you guys vote no and win, that's it. There is no other law in the pipeline. Telling people there is is BS. It could happen, but what HAS happened is 19 is up for vote.
Send a CLEAR message and vote YESD on 19!!
desert dude
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If I could be absolutely certain that another initiative would make it to the ballot in 2012, I would feel a little better about. Frankly, I doubt there will be a legalization measure on the ballet in 2012, it is a difficult and expensive task to a measure on the ballot. On top of that, the 2012 measure contains language to exonerate all the past convictions of MJ convicts. While I think that is a good idea, I don't think it will fly with the voters. I think a 2012 initiative with those exonerations will have a much better chance of passing if P19 passes this year because then supporters will have two years worth of legalization under their belts and be able to say, "look, we legalized it in 2010 and the world did not end and it is simply unfair that our society spent all those years persecuting people for no good reason".
I hope the best for you too.
Kindwoman
Member
What's my opinion on your stand? Sad, just very sad. But this is the United States and we all have the right to voice our opinions. Whether we agree or not, at least we are free to speak. Yes on Proposition 19!
Dan Kone
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If you vote no on prop 19 that totally makes you a mormon.
Dan Kone
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It is not reasonable to assume another legalization bill will be on the ballot in 2012. Even if there one does get on the ballot there is no guarantee that it will be any better than prop 19. It's very possible that a much worse measure comes up in 2012.
desert dude
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And remember kids, "mormon" is only letter away from "moron"!!!!
Dan Kone
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I'm pretty sure most priests are voting no actually.somewhere a child molester is voting YES.
hahahhahahah.
desert dude
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Excellent!
Kindwoman
Member
I too have been waiting for over 40 years. Anyone in their 50's and 60's remember - those were bad days! I watched a good friend of mine get handcuffed and led away because a couple of Long Beach, CA cops found TWO SEEDS in his car. He did some serious time for it too! Those memories still haunt me and I'm sure many others in my age group. We cannot go backwards and we sure as hell can't be frightened by what the Feds are saying. If we had been, my generation could have never done what we did to stop the Vietnam war, and a lot of you youngsters may have never been born.
nathenking
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That is classic...lol