No Budget 2x2x4 tent LED choice

Airwalker16 said:

You won't find abetter diode layout for a superior spread than this board.

https://www.amazon.com/FISSIONING-Spectrum-Quantum-Samsung-Meanwell/dp/B08231BNSP/ref=pd_aw_t4im_d_30?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07K7K544M&pd_rd_r=5c3cc7c7-88e2-4822-83f7-73487a049b36&pd_rd_w=E1VVY&pd_rd_wg=xoCqE&pf_rd_p=b109daad-3389-43e2-bff0-1727d5f29d4f&pf_rd_r=2PAYV3BGPQZRXP5BWQ0Z&psc=1&refRID=26MGHR3PZFZ5RZKT00FS&th=1

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Oh man, what a rabbit hole.

The size / diode layout here seems good too. Would 2 of these in a 2x2 be ridiculous? Even if i dimmed them?
Again, looking for most coverage possible, not too concerned with cost. If one gets me 80% and two gets me 100% i'm in for two.

One of those will do a 2' x 2' tent.

Airwalker16 said:

So far, no one has any first hand experience with the SolarXtreme ones. Am i crazy to want to support them based on their wesbite/reviews?
Yes

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If you want to waste your money on poop Burple lights, go right ahead.
But don't expect any of us to tell you it's a good idea.

sarahJane211 said:

If you want to waste your money on poop Burple lights, go right ahead.
But don't expect any of us to tell you it's a good idea.

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Believe it or not, the CLW SolarXtreme series uses driverless COBs that produce a white light. Not that I'm a proponent of their use, but not a Blurple.

Also I think you responded to the wrong person. It looked like you wanted to reply to the OP, but replied to Airwalker16 instead.

sarahJane211 said:

If you want to waste your money on poop Burple lights, go right ahead.
But don't expect any of us to tell you it's a good idea.

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You're furthering my point from the first post.
Your comment does nothing to help anyone seriously interested. Are you actually informed as to what is wrong with their lights, or following everyone else on here to fit in?

After speaking with the people at HLG, i am going to order their new HLG 225 model with the wild heat sink. Thanks for the HLG recomendations.

Barristan Whitebeard said:

Believe it or not, the CLW SolarXtreme series uses driverless COBs that produce a white light. Not that I'm a proponent of their use, but not a Blurple.

Also I think you responded to the wrong person. It looked like you wanted to reply to the OP, but replied to Airwalker16 instead.

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Problem was I didn't quote that OPs post and just added my "YES" at the bottom. It's too late to edit it now haha

cf_z said:

You're furthering my point from the first post.
Your comment does nothing to help anyone seriously interested. Are you actually informed as to what is wrong with their lights, or following everyone else on here to fit in?

After speaking with the people at HLG, i am going to order their new HLG 225 model with the wild heat sink. Thanks for the HLG recomendations.

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Dafuq is their "wild" heatsink?

Airwalker16 said:

Dafuq is their "wild" heatsink?

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The pinned thing, it looks fucking wild.

Hoping i made the right choice. I narrowed it down to the one linked above or two QB288s, basically their 260w kit, dimmed down a bit. The latter would have given me more vertical grow room, but i'm hoping the 225 wont have any issues letting the plants get 12-15" from it.

cf_z said:

The pinned thing, it looks fucking wild.

HLG 225

HLG ELITE is 225W LED lamp is powered with our custom designed high efficiency Full Spectrum White LED with boosted Red and Deep Red LED. HLG 225 is equivalent to 315W CMH.

horticulturelightinggroup.com

Hoping i made the right choice. I narrowed it down to the one linked above or two QB288s, basically their 260w kit, dimmed down a bit. The latter would have given me more vertical grow room, but i'm hoping the 225 wont have any issues letting the plants get 12-15" from it.

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Let me know how that light works out I was checking it out also.

cf_z said:

You're furthering my point from the first post.
Your comment does nothing to help anyone seriously interested. Are you actually informed as to what is wrong with their lights, or following everyone else on here to fit in?

After speaking with the people at HLG, i am going to order their new HLG 225 model with the wild heat sink. Thanks for the HLG recomendations.

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No, I've had burple in an attempt to save money ....... plants were stunted, sickly and died easily.
Now I have HLG 240w + Chinese Quantum (total $150) ............ my grow tent has become so full I can't manage.
(And this is currently running the lights dimmed at 150w)

ebcrew said:

Let me know how that light works out I was checking it out also.

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I wish you the best. I wouldn't attempt a QB96 in a 4' tall tent, but if you keep the plant really low, you should be alright.

cf_z said:

The pinned thing, it looks fucking wild.

HLG 225

HLG ELITE is 225W LED lamp is powered with our custom designed high efficiency Full Spectrum White LED with boosted Red and Deep Red LED. HLG 225 is equivalent to 315W CMH.

horticulturelightinggroup.com

Hoping i made the right choice. I narrowed it down to the one linked above or two QB288s, basically their 260w kit, dimmed down a bit. The latter would have given me more vertical grow room, but i'm hoping the 225 wont have any issues letting the plants get 12-15" from it.

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ebcrew said:

Let me know how that light works out I was checking it out also.

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That light is basically a QB96 elite v2 on a larger heatsink, so it can be driven at 225watts. For the same money or less, you could DIY and get two QB96 elite v2 engines and a 320w driver, and get a lot more bang for your buck.

PJ Diaz said:

That light is basically a QB96 elite v2 on a larger heatsink, so it can be driven at 225watts. For the same money or less, you could DIY and get two QB96 elite v2 engines and a 320w driver, and get a lot more bang for your buck.

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You’re right. As stated multiple times in here I’m new to all this so this is my “dive in”. With time and research I’m sure I’ll figure out how to source all the wiring / components to build my own light. I’m fortunate to not be financially burdened, and even if I spent an extra $100 at least I’m getting into the good stuff (I hope).

I suppose I could even “expand” on the lamp setup I bought, adding an additional QB96 chipset/heat sink and upgrading the driver to a higher powered or more adjustable one and maybe making it remote mounted outside of the tent if temperature is a problem.

That heatsink isn't called a "wild" heatsink. Lol. It's their 144mm sq Splayed Pin Heatsink.

Airwalker16 said:

That heatsink isn't called a "wild" heatsink. Lol. It's their 144mm sq Splayed Pin Heatsink.

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Wild is an adjective and was perfectly used in the situation I did. You’re the one who quoted it as if it was a brand specific style as if you just want to nitpick.
Either way, Thank you for telling me the official name.

Humple said:

I wish you the best. I wouldn't attempt a QB96 in a 4' tall tent, but if you keep the plant really low, you should be alright.

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Appreciate the input but man, again, another reply just saying what not to do with no advise on what would be a more proper setup.

cf_z said:

Appreciate the input but man, again, another reply just saying what not to do with no advise on what would be a more proper setup.

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It sounded like you had already submitted your order, so offering alternatives seemed pointless. I tend not to tell people (after-the-fact) what I think they should have done. But if you really want to know, I would have suggested a couple of QB120 or QB132 boards, as they offer more spread, and - due to the lower diode-density - are much kinder to errant colas that decide to reach for the ceiling.

as humple said the qb 132's or the 120's because its more like a curtain of light and night just one solid source but if u really want to go the full way and your in the us try to find some bxebs and order some heatsinking if u want to heatsink them but u can run them at 1050ma bare and be fine but I like running more just on heatsinks for your situation I would use the one inch heatsinking and and use tslots as a frame just gotta drill holes thru the heatsinks when I did this I used the 2.425" and did 4 cree 14mm strips on it but its up to what u want to do I like my build bxeb build I made and my cree build I just need to do wiring a little better

HolyAngel said:

The single 135w rspec kit would get you done seedling to harvest no problem. I use 2 in a 3x3 and 1 in a 2x2x4. Two only if dimmed and for a better spread as no way you can run 260w in there.

All that being said, if 86 degrees is your max temp at full wattage, that's totally fine for leds as long as your RH is good too. Just dont want it going past that temp really.

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the one in your 2x2x4 is for vegging?

Jakematthew426 said:

I would just go with a single 1200 watt LED full spectrum grow light for a round 200 to 250 dollars it will do a perfect job for two plant and the heat transfer is low so your tent will stay cooler there is a lot of LED lights but do you want to make sure you get one that it's a little pricey and will give you a complete full spectrum

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Go away.

Humple said:

It sounded like you had already submitted your order, so offering alternatives seemed pointless. I tend not to tell people (after-the-fact) what I think they should have done.

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Understood and appreciated.

I'm fortunate to not be very cash restricted and willing to purchase multiple styles just to see what works best or even who has the best build quality.

I recieved the CLW SolarXtreme yesterday, and you were all right, totally not worth the money. I cannot comment on the actual light output or quality of light in any scientific terms, but the build quality of the light is extremely poor for being $250. The $160 Phlizon amazon special looks like a work of art compared to the CLW 250. Using my build-in-face light sensors, the Phlizon also shits on it as far as brightness.